The ugly Americans

[Tecumsehsbones]

Our lefty buddies think that everyone should have exactly the same access to the press, the internet (oops! they already have that), and the ability to influence people generally. Except, of course, George Soros. It's perfectly OK for him to spend billions influencing the political process.

 

[Nuggler]

What could possibly be the legitimate fault with it? You're on a voter list, you submit your ID to prove that you are indeed the person on that list, then you vote. We do it here all the time. Are we somehow less democratic in our voting process?

Drivers license has a photo. Good enough.

Those who don't have one could get one (photo) at any drivers licence retailer..................at government cost of course heheheheheheh. sure.

It's a bitch trying to get people out to vote as it is................Imagine if they actually had to get off their *** and go get a picture taken...........

Far as freedom goes. You don't use it, you lose it. Weeping and gnashing of teeth shall there be. oh yes. (Paul 321:221)............:lol:

 

[EagleSmack]

Drivers license has a photo. Good enough.

Those who don't have one could get one (photo) at any drivers licence retailer..................at government cost of course heheheheheheh. sure.

It's a bitch trying to get people out to vote as it is................Imagine if they actually had to get off their *** and go get a picture taken...........

Far as freedom goes. You don't use it, you lose it. Weeping and gnashing of teeth shall there be. oh yes. (Paul 321:221)............:lol:

I agree 100%

However down here YOU would be called a racist to even say such a thing. The Democrats know full well that if they require people to have an ID to vote they are in DEEP shyte. Why do you think they are fighting this tooth and nail?

 

[Mowich]

They own both sides.

You are probably right about that, Goob. The amount of money thrown around in the this last US election was enough to fund a couple of 3rd world countries for a long time. From what can gather between 5 and 6 billion is the current estimate but that does not include things like SuperPacs and all the money spent by organizations set up by folks like the Koch brothers.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

You are probably right about that, Goob. The amount of money thrown around in the this last US election was enough to fund a couple of 3rd world countries for a long time. From what can gather between 5 and 6 billion is the current estimate but that does not include things like SuperPacs and all the money spent by organizations set up by folks like the Koch brothers.

The good news is it didn't have any effect. What was the result of the 2012 election?

The Senate remained majority Democratic.

The House remained majority Repbulican.

The White House remained Kenyan Muslim Socialist.

6 billion. For what?

 

[Mowich]

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Makes you wonder doesn't it, Tec or want to pull your hair.

 

[Nuggler]

Makes you wonder doesn't it, Tec or want to pull your hair.

Nah, don't sweat the small stuff........................:lol:

What's a trillion?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Makes you wonder doesn't it, Tec or want to pull your hair.

Yup. Six billion. That'd buy a lot of food, and education, and job opportunities.

I love your electoral system. Basically, you can't be PM unless you speak both English and French. Which is more qualification than our politicians have.

Saves time, saves money. Gets government that may not be great, but isn't noticeably worse than ours, and probably better.

Six. . . freakin'. . . billion.

 

[taxslave]

Yup. Six billion. That'd buy a lot of food, and education, and job opportunities.

I love your electoral system. Basically, you can't be PM unless you speak both English and French. Which is more qualification than our politicians have.

Saves time, saves money. Gets government that may not be great, but isn't noticeably worse than ours, and probably better.

Six. . . freakin'. . . billion.
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Consider it wealth redistribution. That is a six bilion injection directly into the economy. The vast majority coming from the bank accounts of the rich.

 

[Mowich]

Consider it wealth redistribution. That is a six bilion injection directly into the economy. The vast majority coming from the bank accounts of the rich.

Were that totally true than I might agree with you, ts. However, a huge portion of that money was spent on television advertising, billboards, and the like - I don't see that as 'direct injection into the economy.' Could be wrong though. ;-)

 

[gopher]

Can anyone explain how these two spending their own money to try to make the country as they would like is worse than the freeloaders from Occupy blocking roads and demanding that those that have share with those that are too lazy to get their own?

The corporations they employ in this manner take a tax deduction for their activities. This means they are being subsidized by all else. That is corporate welfare.

 

[damngrumpy]

Amid the babble and ranting and hystyrics there might even be a valid point but
it is lost in a barrage of nonsense and layers of half truths or suspect truths at
best.
Eaglesmack I think the concept of busing was a disaster you can't force people
to like each other using mandatory rules and the heavy hand of government.
You pass legislation yes, and you invoke the essence and the letter of the law
and ensure people are treated fairly where they are, not by making them leave their
neighbourhoods and comfort zones.
As for voter ID? what else would they use to identify who is voting? I think the law
has to be standardized and people have to be given time for getting the Id required
but photo ID should be mandatory. The other question that comes to mind is why
would free ID be provided? Poor or not you have to pay for a passport, or drivers
licence or other id. Being poor does not mean you get a pass its part of the problem
we face in society. People believe the government should just issue things for free.
What about personal responsibility? If ID is a priority people will ensure they get it.

 

[EagleSmack]

Eaglesmack I think the concept of busing was a disaster you can't force people
to like each other using mandatory rules and the heavy hand of government.
You pass legislation yes, and you invoke the essence and the letter of the law
and ensure people are treated fairly where they are, not by making them leave their
neighbourhoods and comfort zones.

Oh but they did! They sure as heck did. However the wealthy liberal do-gooders didn't want poor people going to the lilly white suburban schools that butted up against Boston. Oh no... that just wasn't going to happen. They crashed poor white and poor black inner city neighborhoods together. Schools in poor black neighborhoods s*cked so lets just take half of the poor white kids and put them there then bus half of the poor black kids into the poor white schools.

But don't bus them to Brookline, Wellsley, Weston, and Newton. Thats where all the liberal rich white people are and they couldn't have Bradley and Muffy rubbing elbows with the lower class.

As for voter ID? what else would they use to identify who is voting? I think the law
has to be standardized and people have to be given time for getting the Id required
but photo ID should be mandatory. The other question that comes to mind is why
would free ID be provided? Poor or not you have to pay for a passport, or drivers
licence or other id. Being poor does not mean you get a pass its part of the problem
we face in society. People believe the government should just issue things for free.
What about personal responsibility? If ID is a priority people will ensure they get it.

Personal responsibility!? Identifying yourself before you vote!? Why that is simply racist DG! Racist to the core! You must not want minorities to vote!

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Amid the babble and ranting and hystyrics there might even be a valid point but
it is lost in a barrage of nonsense and layers of half truths or suspect truths at
best.
Eaglesmack I think the concept of busing was a disaster you can't force people
to like each other using mandatory rules and the heavy hand of government.

Of course, that wasn't the intent of busing.

You pass legislation yes, and you invoke the essence and the letter of the law
and ensure people are treated fairly where they are, not by making them leave their
neighbourhoods and comfort zones.

Yep, "separate but equal." The law in the U.S. from 1896 to 1954. Nice idea. Didn't work.

 

[EagleSmack]

Of course, that wasn't the intent of busing.


Yep, "separate but equal." The law in the U.S. from 1896 to 1954. Nice idea. Didn't work.

And forced busing worked? What a great idea that was.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

And forced busing worked? What a great idea that was.

No, it destroyed Boston's public school system. All by its lonesome.

 

[EagleSmack]

No, it destroyed Boston's public school system. All by its lonesome.

You can say that again. Completely destroyed it... all by its lonesome. It was a disaster and nobody can deny it.

There was a big difference between letting minorities attend the University of Mississippi for the first time and Forced Busing in Boston.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

You can say that again. Completely destroyed it... all by its lonesome. It was a disaster and nobody can deny it.

There was a big difference between letting minorities attend the University of Mississippi for the first time and Forced Busing in Boston.

Sure was. Mostly arrogant Bostonians getting their own racism shoved back in their faces.

What was the dead-last city in the United States to racially integrate public housing?

Here's a hint: It wasn't a southern city.

Here's another: It was in 1984. Thirty years after the Supreme Court struck down "separate but equal" on the grounds that separate was never equal.

The last city in the United States to get the message was. . .

Anybody? Bueller? Bueller?

 

[EagleSmack]

Sure was. Mostly arrogant Bostonians getting their own racism shoved back in their faces.

You mean the poor white people who didn't want to bus their kids across the city?

Hey as long as it wasn't your kids eh T-Bones? It was easy to sit back in you lilly white neighborhood and judge people who were just as poor and were sick of the wealthy liberal elite dumping on them.

They sure didn't want their kids rubbing elbows with kids from Southie and Roxbury.

What was the dead-last city in the United States to racially integrate public housing?

Here's a hint: It wasn't a southern city.

Here's another: It was in 1984. Thirty years after the Supreme Court struck down "separate but equal" on the grounds that separate was never equal.

The last city in the United States to get the message was. . .

Anybody? Bueller? Bueller?

And that means what?

How nice to be told where they have to live? No Mr. and Mrs O'Brien... you can't live where you grew up... we need to put you in the crime filled projects of Roxbury. Have a nice life!

Ahhh what bright ideas the wealthy liberal whites have for everyone.

So easy for someone supposedly from Oklahoma whose population TODAY is 82+% white to judge others.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

You mean the poor white people who didn't want to bus their kids across the city?

Hey as long as it wasn't your kids eh T-Bones? It was easy to sit back in you lilly white neighborhood and judge people who were just as poor and were sick of the wealthy liberal elite dumping on them.

They sure didn't want their kids rubbing elbows with kids from Southie and Roxbury.

My neighbourhood ain't exactly lily white, Eagle.

And that means what?

It means that Boston had, and has, a race problem. Just like, what was it, 20 or so years ago when that guy shot his wife and said a black guy did it, and the cops rousted half the black men in the city before they did a little basic investigating and found out. . . whaddaya know, it was the guy himself who did it!

How nice to be told where they have to live? No Mr. and Mrs O'Brien... you can't live where you grew up... we need to put you in the crime filled projects of Roxbury. Have a nice life!

Racial segregation is against the law, Eagle. And it happens I approve of that. If you don't, I'm genuinely sorry for you.

Ahhh what bright ideas the wealthy liberal whites have for everyone.

Like Robert Gould Shaw? Fine Bostonian, Col. Shaw.

So easy for someone supposedly from Oklahoma whose population TODAY is 82+% white to judge others.

My corner wasn't.