No argument from me...but of course, that statement doesn't refute god's existence.
The steps to belief (or disbelief)
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No argument from me...but of course, that statement doesn't refute god's existence.
The bold statement is false. I disagree. You say there are no plants and no animals and anybody with any understanding of desert ecosystems will disagree as well.
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Inductive reasoning is always probabilistic and just because something can't be proved deductively, i.e., with certainty, doesn't mean the thing is probable.
For example, you could win the 6\49 jackpot three times in a row but your not going to - I know that as fact! You could ask: but how do you know that! You can't say that with certainty! I could - it is possible.
And you'd be right, but your still not going to win it three times in a row and there is no god. ;-)
In fact, it's not just you that's never going to win the 6/49 three times in a row, no one is going to ever.
And there is no god.
...in your opinion.
btw - your comments refer to statistical probability which don't really apply to this discussion.
Not so, there really is no god.
The probability is so small that claiming it is possible is, well, embarrassing. ;-)
It is like thinking your going to win the 6/49 jackpot three times in a row and that, I'm sure you can understand, is an absurd belief. Though I can't say with certainty that you won't, I know you won't and you would be a fool to say you could.
So, there is no god.
Lol, a mind is a terrible thing to waste Cannuck ;-)
Good luck with the lottery too - you'll need it :lol:
Good luck with the lottery too - you'll need it :lol:
Shouldn't you have written "gods'" instead of "god's." Christianity and Islam are both pantheons with a veneer of monotheism. Seems someone has bought into theological imperialism to me.
Bring back the Nordic and Slavic gods!
Not anal, honest.
To paraphrase Dexter, "What is good for the Great Gander is good for all Geese."
For some reason this thread reminded of the time the smoke house burned down at the butcher shop and the valley smelled like sausage for days.
Or, Brother Petros, the great Boston Mollases Flood of 1919. They say, on a hot day, one can still smell the sweet aftergow!
The Boston Molasses Flood of 1919 - A True Short Story
The Boston Molasses Flood of 1919 - A True Short Story
Agreed, but that's not what I was up to. It's up to the people making the positive claim that he exists to demonstrate the truth of the claim. If all the arguments they can offer in support of god's existence apply equally well to other beings that they'd probably argue don't exist, then clearly the arguments are so lame as to be pointless and without meaning. The reasonable inductive conclusion is that god does not exist. Induction of course will never produce complete certainty, as some thinking person remarked earlier, at best we can get an estimate of probability. In this case, considering the evidence and arguments I've seen over the last 40 years or so, and the events I've seen in the real world, I believe that probability to be zero.
And just to tie up any possible loose ends, the way the OP lays out the steps to disbelief is completely wrong, it has nothing to do with how I got there.
Yes I know it's not a science class. That doesn't mean the elementary rules of logic don't apply.
Really? So then any irrational claim, error of fact, logical fallacy, and so on, constitutes a legitimate argument? I don't see how we can discuss anything on that basis.
I like the Amerind notion that the Earth rests on the back of a giant turtle. And, as the old joke goes:
Q: "What's the turtle resting on?"
A: "Why, it's turtles all the way down!"
Answers a lot of things for me, such as "Why doesn't the Earth fall out of the sky", presuming of course that there are no visible ropes.
Q: "What's the turtle resting on?"
A: "Why, it's turtles all the way down!"
Answers a lot of things for me, such as "Why doesn't the Earth fall out of the sky", presuming of course that there are no visible ropes.