The sissification of America continues.

karrie

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I don't like that. Kids today don't know how to win gracefully or lose with dignity. When I was young you learned to play 110% til the last whistle whether you were up by 50 points or down by 50 points and you expected the same from your opponent. Today they don't keep score half the time and they don't want any kids to have to deal with losing.

BTW - 90 points is a major a$$-kicking.

I can't completely agree with you. Our boys were gracious winners, and the teams tended to complain about the mercy rule, because the kids wanted to keep playing even if they were losing. I don't think it's the kids that are lacking the skills, it's the parents and the leagues.
 

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I can't completely agree with you. Our boys were gracious winners, and the teams tended to complain about the mercy rule, because the kids wanted to keep playing even if they were losing. I don't think it's the kids that are lacking the skills, it's the parents and the leagues.
That is what I meant. Schools have become places where being nice is more important than learning math & english. That isn't the kids doing it, it is the adults.
That depends on why they launched the complaint. Just because the story says it was because of the score, doesn't mean it was because of the score.
Having played football I can imagine there was some intimidation and taunting going on. It is a very aggressive sport and lends itself to getting in your opponents head that way. I've seen many parents complain because little Johnny will be traumatized for life because the opposing lineman was beating him badly and calling him a girl. Poor kid is probably far more scarred by Mommy stepping in like this.
 

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There have been two American football matches live on Channel 4 here recently. Well, actually, Channel 4 has been showing live NFL matches for years.

A couple of weeks ago we had one of the annual Wembley NFL matches - and there's another to come soon, Jacksonville Jaguars playing San Francisco 49ers on 27 October, the Yanks desperately wanting to create a London NFL team and to make the sport big here - and a few days ago there was a match live from America.

I lost the will to live after half an hour. During all that time there was about five minutes of gameplay. Most of the rest was TV adverts and people talking in the studio. They really do need to do something about the amount of stoppages in the game.


A crowd of 83,519 saw the Minnesota Vikings beat the Pittsburgh Steelers 34-27 at Wembley Stadium in London on 29th September





 
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There have been two American football matches live on Channel 4 here recently. Well, actually, Channel 4 has been showing live NFL matches for years.

A couple of weeks ago we had one of the annual Wembley NFL matches - and there's another to come soon, Jacksonville Jaguars playing San Francisco 49ers on 27 October, the Yanks desperately wanting to create a London NFL team and to make the sport big here - and a few days ago there was a match live from America.

I lost the will to live after half an hour. During all that time there was about five minutes of gameplay. Most of the rest was TV adverts and people talking in the studio. They really do need to do something about the amount of stoppages in the game.


A crowd of 83,519 saw the Minnesota Vikings beat the Pittsburgh Steelers 34-27 at Wembley Stadium in London on 29th September






The NFL doesn't want a team over there. The scheduling and logistics are a nightmare. It works much better if they can throw you a couple of meanignless boring games and have you pay out $$$ to go. With 83K, you are obviouly well attached to the leagues hooks. After last weeks games (week 7), the win total of 3 of the 4 teams playing over there combined is 3. This tells you how important the NFL views this opportunity.

I don't have any issue with the pace of an NFL game. It certainly beats watching some "athlete" playing soccer get bumped gently and fall down on the field in agony while looking around to make sure the official is viewing his drama. Such exciting action.
 

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I don't have any issue with the pace of an NFL game.

I've got an issue with the non-gameplayof American football.

When I tune in to watch sport, I want to watch sport, not 7 seconds of action and then no gameplay for the next 7 minutes as soon as the ball hits the ground.

American football is more tedious than watching paint dry. Cricket has more action than American football.

It certainly beats watching some "athlete" playing soccer get bumped gently and
fall down on the field in agony while looking around to make sure the official
is viewing his drama. Such exciting action.

"Soccer" players, unlike American footballers, don't wear bigger helmets and more kevlar body armour than soldiers do on the battlefield.
 

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Having played football I can imagine there was some intimidation and taunting going on. It is a very aggressive sport and lends itself to getting in your opponents head that way. I've seen many parents complain because little Johnny will be traumatized for life because the opposing lineman was beating him badly and calling him a girl. Poor kid is probably far more scarred by Mommy stepping in like this.

Your "Bundy-esque" football experience, fascinating as it may be for some, is somewhat irrelevant to my point. We simply do not have first hand knowledge of what occurred at the football game in question and I, for one, am not interested in formulating an opinion based on one person's story.
 

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Sissification is a bunch of old guys calling football-playing kids sissies. Nothing quite as manly as those who do nothing but complain, from a chair.
That's an excellent point. I wonder how many of the fellas crying "sissy" would last for three plays on even a high-school football field.
 

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That's an excellent point. I wonder how many of the fellas crying "sissy" would last for three plays on even a high-school football field.

I could last for three years playing American football and not have a scratch on me.

Unlike footballers or rugby players I've never once seen any of them spilling blood.
 

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Beating a team is one thing. How they did it is another. There is probably more to it than meets the eye on a scoreboard.

How did they do it? They scored about 28 points per quarter which tells me the other team was probably unable to even move the ball on offense. And there are Referees that would certainly penalize Aledo TX if they were committing penalties.
 

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A bullying charge is stupid, but having one team in a league that is winning every game by 80 points is pretty stupid too.

You really need an 80 point cushion? If I'm the coach of that team, i'd swap out the defensive and offensive lines, make it a game. If I'm the coach of another team, I'd wonder aloud what good it does for all the other teams to be humiliated and for the one team to have no competition. A brief google demonstrated that Aledo alumni are not overrepresented for NFL players. You're not doing the kids any favours.


That is a really good point. Really good coaches put the second string in the game when they are cruising to a win.
James Michener's 1985 Classic, "Texas', has a chapter on this.

Sounds like Texas hasn't changed.
 

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As they say, if you live by the sword you die by the sword. They'll get it dished back.

If Western Hills could have I am sure they would have.

If YOU want a scholarship to play sports in post secondary, you don't give a sh*t about other teams feelings, you rack up your stats.

Even the coach from Aledo stated he tried to find ways not to score that night. If you call a simple dive play, and the O-Line pushes the D-Line back and the RB gets in space... BOOM... hes gone!

What can you do right?

That is a really good point. Really good coaches put the second string in the game when they are cruising to a win.
James Michener's 1985 Classic, "Texas', has a chapter on this.

Sounds like Texas hasn't changed.

Putting in the JV...How do you know that did not happen?

You did read my post stating that Western Hill HS has yet to win a game and have pretty much been blown out in every game correct? They're getting killed by everyone!
 

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A brief google demonstrated that Aledo alumni are not overrepresented for NFL players. You're not doing the kids any favours.

I'm not sure what it's like elsewhere but, in school sports around here, the emphasis is on winning instead of skills development. I assume it's the same across the country. That's probably why canada sucks at basketball and volleyball on the international stage
 

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I could last for three years playing American football and not have a scratch on me.

Unlike footballers or rugby players I've never once seen any of them spilling blood.

You wouldn't get up after the first hit. I can hear that awful splat already of a 255lb linebacker with 4.0/40 speed driving you to the ground.



I'm not sure what it's like elsewhere but, in school sports around here, the emphasis is on winning instead of skills development. I assume it's the same across the country. That's probably why canada sucks at basketball and volleyball on the international stage

Skills development is for practice. You are supposed to WIN in a game, it is the entire objective. You sound like you are one of those bleeding heart 'its all about having fun' parents who doesn't want to keep score because their kid sucks.
 

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This is silly. Rugby (and Aussie and Gaelic) have a different tackling style. They don't do the head-on hits the way Americans and Canadians do. Neither did we back before the modern equipment. It was more of a side-step, arm-grab, pull-down thing. If you tackled North American style without the gear, you'd be dead.

All this couch-potato d ick measuring is undoubtedly providing the ladies with much eye-rolling mirth.