The sissification of America continues.

karrie

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Do kids really want to practice getting their a s s e s kicked?

J/K


lol. smart ***.

There was a tv show, the Goodwin Games, where one of the characters is talking to her niece, and she tells her, find something you suck at, and do it. The kid says 'oh, and then I'll get good at it and learn to push through to triumph'. And the aunt says 'no, you'll fall on your face, and learn to carry on even though you did'. (not direct quotes). Personally, I think we don't teach our kids that enough.
 

EagleSmack

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When we were in baseball with my son, they had the 'mercy rule'. Once it was mathematically impossible for a team to recover, they'd call the game. I felt like the kids got ripped off every time it happened, because no one got to really practice.

Me and my son were talking about that yesterday and laughing. He was on the All-Star team when he was 11 and they ran into a buzz saw. The team they were playing racked up about 10+ runs in the first two innings. Then it was 1-2-3 outs for each team. Slaughter rule in the 4th inning... game over.

We were out of there in about 25 minutes. It took longer to get to the ball field.

My son was chuckling a bit...

"What the heck just happened?"

However in football... particularly HS football you play the time allotted. That is that.
 

55Mercury

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Now, one parent has apparently been so concerned by the final scoreline that they took the extraordinary step of filing an official bullying report with the school district because of the thrashing.


lol

One has to wonder if that 'one parent' was the parent of the losing team's coach!

:?P
 

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I attended a junior high school soccer game today in which my neighborhood school defeated its opponent 10-0. All 10 goals were scored in the first half. The coach started his bench players in the 2d half and ordered them not to shoot the ball.

I watched the game with the school's tennis coach. Several kids there demanded that their team mates shoot to run up the score. But she told them, no - that holding back and keeping the score that way was a sign of good sportsmanship. That this enabled the team to practice dribbling, time management on the field, and ball control. After the lop sided game all shook hands. Had the coach allowed the players to shoot the score would have been 20-0 and no one would have shown good sportsmanship.
 

Kreskin

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I'd like to see the official 'bullying' complaint. It seems anything the media gets a hold of mostly half-truth. They should be glad the parents made a written complaint rather than fist-delivered.

I use to coach a b-level lacrosse team. It bothered me a lot when we had to play the best a-team within a thousand miles and they would put a thumping on our kids. At some point someone needed to pull in the dogs and let the game come to a respectful ending. To repeatedly put the boots to the other team when the game is all but over is excessive.

In the case of football, a team winning by 91 points would have a clear physical advantage. To keep physically hammering the opponent to the end is off base.
 

PoliticalNick

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When we were in baseball with my son, they had the 'mercy rule'. Once it was mathematically impossible for a team to recover, they'd call the game. I felt like the kids got ripped off every time it happened, because no one got to really practice.

I don't like that. Kids today don't know how to win gracefully or lose with dignity. When I was young you learned to play 110% til the last whistle whether you were up by 50 points or down by 50 points and you expected the same from your opponent. Today they don't keep score half the time and they don't want any kids to have to deal with losing.

BTW - 90 points is a major a$$-kicking.
 

Kreskin

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I don't like that. Kids today don't know how to win gracefully or lose with dignity. When I was young you learned to play 110% til the last whistle whether you were up by 50 points or down by 50 points and you expected the same from your opponent. Today they don't keep score half the time and they don't want any kids to have to deal with losing.

BTW - 90 points is a major a$$-kicking.
As a kid I played lacrosse in the pee wee national tournament. I was a defenseman and didn't score all that much but we met up against Calgary and started kicking the daylights out of them. I even got a hat trick. But our coach reamed us out half way through the game. He wanted us to work on stuff and not score a bunch of frivolous goals. He was one of the best minor league coaches in the country, and when he spoke we listened (or else). That's the way a good coach should coach.
 

Zipperfish

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A bullying charge is stupid, but having one team in a league that is winning every game by 80 points is pretty stupid too.

You really need an 80 point cushion? If I'm the coach of that team, i'd swap out the defensive and offensive lines, make it a game. If I'm the coach of another team, I'd wonder aloud what good it does for all the other teams to be humiliated and for the one team to have no competition. A brief google demonstrated that Aledo alumni are not overrepresented for NFL players. You're not doing the kids any favours.
 

hunboldt

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I attended a junior high school soccer game today in which my neighborhood school defeated its opponent 10-0. All 10 goals were scored in the first half. The coach started his bench players in the 2d half and ordered them not to shoot the ball.

I watched the game with the school's tennis coach. Several kids there demanded that their team mates shoot to run up the score. But she told them, no - that holding back and keeping the score that way was a sign of good sportsmanship. That this enabled the team to practice dribbling, time management on the field, and ball control. After the lop sided game all shook hands. Had the coach allowed the players to shoot the score would have been 20-0 and no one would have shown good sportsmanship.

That is a good point, Gopher. One has to wonder about the Texas system where badly mismatched schools are pitted against each other. hardly a 'good game'.
 

EagleSmack

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That is a good point, Gopher. One has to wonder about the Texas system where badly mismatched schools are pitted against each other. hardly a 'good game'.

Because they are probably in their league and division.

This Aledo HS is ranked 24 in the country and #4 in Texas. That is a pretty darn good team.

The team they beat (Western Hills TX) is ranked 949 in Texas and has not won a game.

I looked it up. The team in question Western Hlls TX lost their first game 61-7... 2nd game- 62-10... 3rd game- 63-0. It only got slightly until Aledo beat them.

They are a bad team.

On the other hand Aledo TX has been beating everyone like that. Take a look at their schedule and scores.

Aledo High School (TX) Football Schedule - MaxPreps.com
 

Kreskin

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Beating a team is one thing. How they did it is another. There is probably more to it than meets the eye on a scoreboard.
 

PoliticalNick

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Not sure what all the whining is about. Sounds like some of you are the reason they don't keep score in a lot of kids leagues these days. Really, what do you teach kids if you want the other team to play half-a$$ed and not try. That is far more degrading than getting your butt whipped. Kids need to learn people don't let up in real life.
 

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If YOU want a scholarship to play sports in post secondary, you don't give a sh*t about other teams feelings, you rack up your stats.
 

Kreskin

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Sissification is a bunch of old guys calling football-playing kids sissies. Nothing quite as manly as those who do nothing but complain, from a chair.
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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I see nothing wrong with mercy rules for kids. Our son's league has it per inning for 1st 3 innings (5 runs max). After that its open innings where you can score as many as you want. Usually teams play best pitcher for these ones. Many times visiting team after completing at bat for top of last inning will request to play the bottom part for practice.

But for profesional sports, play the full game. As much as I dislike Bill Belecheat, he once responded to why he was running up the score by saying it was the other teams fault for not stopping him. Sort of twisted logic in that one.
 

Cannuck

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Like so many of these stories, there's probably more to it so I'll wait for more info before declaring Americans "sissies"