The Power of Positive Thinking to Reverse Aging!

JLM

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JLM is nestled right in between Okanagan Lake and Kalamalka Lake. He could not live in a more beautiful spot. Warm in the Okanagan in the summer but sure not like it is in places like Lillooet. I bet you are glad you don't live there JLM. Then again, you could be living somewhere cold like maybe - Edmonton??

Not too many places warmer than Grand Forks in summer, V.I. - maybe just Lytton and Osoyoos.
 

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I'm pretty sure that Wiki said "philosophers" not "philosophists". There's a big difference. Merriam-Webster says a philosophist is

Phi`los´o`phist (fĭ`lǒs´ô`fĭst)
n.1.A pretender in philosophy.

At any rate, judging from what most people perceive that love is, science has a different story, so I am not averse to thinking that most people are misinformed, uninformed, etc. about what "soul", "spirit", and that sort of thing are.

:) The science of love
Ooops! "Philosophists" was a brain fart. Unreliable critters, brains are!
 

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Good point. I was responding to the fact that many people (including scientists) claim there is no afterlife. All I'm saying is, prove it.

Incidentally, human credulity exists everywhere, including science.

So is the fact that thinking young does aide in the process of staying young.
It is not only eating right, and exercise, going to the doctor.
State of mind... look at the yoga, martial arts,, all a form of body and mind working together. When I dance same thing....
 

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I Think you'll agree that death occurs when the brain ceases to register activity.
So the difference between being alive and being dead is activity in the brain ,right? . We are our brain. What is the very essence of us, what makes me and you is our brain.The human brain is a collection of cells that for the typical adult weighs about 3 lbs.I've bin told that it contains 100 billion neurons. These neurons form connections to each other called synapses but you already know hat ,right? . These synapses produce chemicals called neurotransmitters. There are 1,000,000,000,000,000 synapses in the brain. A neuron is activated and the synapses connects to another neuron via a neurotransmitter through its synapses. Every thought you have, every movement you take, every memory you possess, is nothing more than a particular sequence of synapses. This is what we are, a collection of neurons sparking off a chain reaction to other neurons. When the brain is no longer activating neurons, we cease to exist.The rest of our body serves no other purpose than to keep the brain alive and to reproduce.So if that's all we are, then to answer the question 'is there afterlife' the answer would have to be no.
WOW! What happened to all your spelling mistakes, grammatical errors, etc.? You didn't plagiarize this thing did you? Is there life after death?
 

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Three or four people telling me I am wrong cuts no ice with me, JLM. It will be a dark day indeed when I start believing in afterlife; just because three or four people tell me that I am wrong not to believe in it. And if for not believing in afterlife somebody considers me a nincompoop ands arrogant, hey what is it to me?

So I say there is life after life, there is strong evidence of it and certainly not proof that there isn't so until someone proves to me there isn't then I will naturally assume there is and any other possibility is nothing but utter rubbish........... :smile:
 

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Need one to illustrate the fantasy (probably) of spooks. Oh, wait! Doesn't "gods" = "spooks" anyway?
 

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So I say there is life after life, there is strong evidence of it and certainly not proof that there isn't so until someone proves to me there isn't then I will naturally assume there is and any other possibility is nothing but utter rubbish........... :smile:
The real question to ponder is, "Is there life after birth?" It could all be just a giant illusion. Buddhists say what we call life is a dream and that what we call dreaming is the real life.
 

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The real question to ponder is, "Is there life after birth?" It could all be just a giant illusion. Buddhists say what we call life is a dream and that what we call dreaming is the real life.
Isn't their neck of the woods the place where opium came from, though? Kind of like rationalising the use, I think, yes?
 

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Buddhists don't believe in reincarnation? Well now, that's an interesting "fact." I'll have to pass it on to the Buddhists I know that do believe in it. And I personally know quite a few of them. You're wrong. That statement is incorrect.


Buddhists do not believe in reincarnation as we commonly understand the word. This is what it says about Buddhism:

Reincarnation is not a simple physical birth of a person; for instance, John being reborn as a cat in the next life. In this case John possesses an immortal soul which transforms to the form of a cat after his death. This cycle is repeated over and over again. Or if he is lucky, he will be reborn as a human being. This notion of the transmigration of the soul definitely does not exist in Buddhism.

A Basic Buddhism Guide: On Reincarnation
 
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SirJosephPorter

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Dang! There I go again, missing details. When I signed on, I missed the one about being offended by certain behaviours disqualfies a person from belonging to this forum. I must go back and check the rules to see where I goofed.

Thanks for bringing that up. I will endeavour to do better in the future by ceasing to be offended by certain remarks and/or subjects. And if I can't manage that, I shall withdraw.

After all, I need to remain positive in my thinking so I can keep my aging process on schedule. That is the topic, right?

Quite so, countryboy. One needs a thick skin to participate in forums like these.
 

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Isn't their neck of the woods the place where opium came from, though? Kind of like rationalising the use, I think, yes?
Not sure if Buddhist monks use the stuff or not. Shaman from all over the planet, on the other hand, used all kinds of hallucinogens. They delved into other realms of reality, not always with the use of drugs. Many traditions used drumming and/or chanting to achieve altered states.
 

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The first christians certainly did believe in reincarnation, that is in part why they were exterminated. Can you think of any reason why the universe would not follow the laws of conservation and recycle your little spark back into another bag of bones for you to continue the real purpose of life?

Universe certainly recycles the organic matter, darkbeaver. That is where the laws fo conservation come in. Whether buried or cremated, our bodies are recycled and become part of the earth, perhaps used to form another life.

Indeed, that is the scientific view of life, that life is a continuum, without beginning or end. But this does not constitute afterlife, as the word is understood. In the afterlife, presumably the soul survives, and goes somewhere else (whether Heaven, Hell or is reincarnated).

I do not believe in soul and hence, not in afterlife as well.
 

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:lol:AnnaG
WOW! What happened to all your spelling mistakes, grammatical errors, etc.? You didn't plagiarize this thing did you
?

Forgive me Sister ,for I have sinned.:lol:
 
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SirJosephPorter

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OK, without the burden of science mucking things up and adding confusion, prove there is no afterlife. In a spiritual sense, of course.

I will, if you first oblige me by proving something.

I say that on the dark side of the moon, the side not visible to us, there is a two story house, made of gingerbread and Swiss cheese, hermetically sealed, with a pool filled with maple syrup in the back yard.

Now, you prove to me that such a house does not exist. Then I will prove to you that there is no afterlife.
 

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Well, for Buddhists, there's rebirth, which is not quite the same, but is conceptually very close for the purposes of this discussion.
Many Sufi Moslems believe in reincarnation.
Hindus believe that the soul is immortal, while the body is born and dies.
In Jainism, particular reference is given to how devas (gods) also reincarnate after they die.
Sikhs believe that every creature has a Soul; on death, the Soul is passed from one body to another until Liberation

I think Hinduism and Sikhism are the only major religions which believe in reincarnation as the word is commonly understood (soul migrating from one body to another).

As to Jains believing that Gods reincarnate after they die, it is important to remember that Gods are immortal. So they don’t really die, they simply trade one form of body for another. That is not reincarnation.
 

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Faith is stronger than proof anyway, where proof can not exist faith reigns supreme.:lol:

You put your finger on it, it is all a matter of faith, a matter of belief. You either believe it or you don't, no matter of proof is going to convince anybody one way or the other.

Where faith is concerned, scientific concepts such as objectivity, evidence, hypothesis testing etc. are irrelevant.