The 'Official' Quit Picking On Trump Thread

Who Hates Trump the Most?

  • Dumbocrats

    Votes: 8 25.0%
  • Reptilicans

    Votes: 9 28.1%
  • Broads

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • Canadians

    Votes: 9 28.1%

  • Total voters
    32

Angstrom

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Re: Donald Trump's Tax Returns Showed That He Paid Nothing

Of course you should. Not paying taxes doesn't deprive you of citizenship or franchise.

Let me turn it around. Should people who pay high amounts of tax get more than one vote?

Holly **** tec!!!!! What the duck happened to you?

Your using logic!!!

It's like watching monkeys use a tool for the first time. :lol:
 

mentalfloss

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tempest in a tax return.

The teenage angst is deafening.

Of course you should. Not paying taxes doesn't deprive you of citizenship or franchise.

Let me turn it around. Should people who pay high amounts of tax get more than one vote?

I wouldn't be surprised if some here would answer yes to that question.
 

Locutus

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Jun 18, 2007
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the Don sure makes 'em mad.
 

Curious Cdn

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Of course you should. Not paying taxes doesn't deprive you of citizenship or franchise.

Let me turn it around. Should people who pay high amounts of tax get more than one vote?

Effectively, that is what happens. The very poor who pay no taxes at all are so totally disenfranchised that they live outside of your society. There must be forty-fifty million of them in your country and I'll bet that well under 10% of them vote. Can you even vote when you have no fixed address?

There is another category that doesn't pay taxes ... criminals and they sure as hell are not going to advertise their positions by registering to vote. Voter lists are likely a major tool of IRS investigators.

The super rich, who evade taxation have the financial clout to buy power and influence and to therefore nullify "honest" voting.

You already have the system that you describe. Do the super poor loose their citizenship? Well no but ... effectively, yes.
 

tay

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Re: TRUMP Has Pushed FORD to Return MEXICAN Plant to OHIO

Trump may do a lot of screaming about how much he hates companies that move jobs out of America.


He even got between Chris Christie and his Oreos (possibly the only thing Trump has ever done that might be regarded as “brave”) because the company that makes them is on its way to Mexico. You just would not believe how angry it makes him.
“Carrier has to know that if they do that -- and I’m not only speaking to them, I’m speaking to Nabisco and Ford and hundreds and hundreds of other companies -- they have to know that there are consequences when you want to leave and fire all these people,” Trump said at a campaign rally in Evansville, Indiana, on April 28. “You’re not just going to go to another country, make your product, sell it across our really weak borders.”
So, so angry. But a funny thing happened on the way to Trump’s bank account.
Trump has denounced units of United Technologies Corp., Ford Motor Co. and Mondelez International Inc. on the campaign trail -- and has received income of as much as $75,000 from bonds issued by all three since January 2015, according to his latest financial disclosure form released Tuesday.
Ford. That’s clear enough, but if Mondelez International doesn’t strike you as a familiar name, those are the guys who make the Oreos. The same ones Trump is “boycotting.” And just who are those United Technologies guys? Yup, those are the people who own Carrier. The same company that Trump made the centerpiece of his campaign in Indiana.

Maybe the reason Trump never has any problem remembering these companies is that they stay fresh in his mind. What with cashing their checks and all.

What about other companies Trump has screamed about?
He also has invested in Apple Inc.’s stock and bonds even though in February he called for a boycott of the company for refusing to help the Federal Bureau of Investigation unlock an iPhone used by a terrorist in San Bernardino, California.
Hey, boycotts are for followers.

Trump likes to pretend that companies are just things, but companies are run by men. Men like Donald Trump. And men like Trump, they get their money where they can find it. They don’t let a little thing like scruples get in the way.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Re: Donald Trump's Tax Returns Showed That He Paid Nothing

Churchill said democracy is the worst form of government in history. . . except for everything else.
 

Danbones

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from the where is the doughtrage dept:
Compared to HillarIOUs's hackable email full of state secrets and trail of very highly paid speaking engagements
where there is no speech or transcript....
and millions paid to the clinton foundation where there is pretty much no charity committed.

Geez, and then to think Trump asked girls out when he was single...
while I'll send you the Bill has to settle multiple rape cases

Churchill said democracy is the worst form of government in history. . . except for everything else.
the trouble with democracy is its NEVER been tried
 

PoliticalNick

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Mar 8, 2011
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Re: Donald Trump's Tax Returns Showed That He Paid Nothing

If you don't pay any taxes at all, should you even be allowed to have a say?

There is anyone that pays no taxes. They may get their personal income tax assessment down to zero but we all pay sales taxes and fuel taxes and govt fees (hidden taxes) and a myriad of other taxes. Even non-profits pay sales tax and consumption taxes.
 

tay

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Re: Donald Trump's Tax Returns Showed That He Paid Nothing

Why would I be critical? Many people use tax dodges to reduce their taxes. You have an RRSP I assume?

You are confusing 'tax dodges' with deferments.

Tax dodges are meant to evade paying taxes by hiding the income that would base how much tax would be paid.

An RRSP simply defers the tax you will have to pay once it is withdrawn.......
 

coldstream

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Re: Donald Trump's Tax Returns Showed That He Paid Nothing

I thought Trump was not going to release his Tax Returns.

He is under no obligation to do so. Candidates for public office in the States are required to present a statement of assets and liabilities to expose any conflict of interests. The publication of Tax Returns is a relatively recent phenomenon, started the 1970s and now deemed by the Press to be obligatory.

It contains all kinds of privileged and private information.. that is NOBODY'S business except the IRS and the individual taxpayer. The Press only wants this to tear Trump apart on everything from charitable donations to legal tax avoidance strategies.

I fully respect and encourage Donald Trump to tell the ravenous, duplicitous and lecherous American press to go to hell, and mind their own business. This has NOTHING to do with his qualifications to be President.
 

taxslave

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Re: Donald Trump's Tax Returns Showed That He Paid Nothing

Does it matter?

Of course it matters. But since your outrage is fake anyway maybe not. You should be directing your ire at the ones responsible for writing such a tax code. not at the people smart enough to use it as written. Obama has been in office for decades so why hasn't he cured the problem?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Re: Donald Trump's Tax Returns Showed That He Paid Nothing

Coldstream, if you read the article before you popped off, you'd sound slightly less stupid.
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Re: Donald Trump's Tax Returns Showed That He Paid Nothing

I thought Trump was not going to release his Tax Returns.

He is under no obligation to do so. Candidates for public office in the States are required to present a statement of assets and liabilities to expose any conflict of interests. The publication of Tax Returns is a relatively recent phenomenon, started the 1970s and now deemed by the Press to be obligatory.

It contains all kinds of privileged and private information.. that is NOBODY'S business except the IRS and the individual taxpayer. The Press only wants this to tear Trump apart on everything from charitable donations to legal tax avoidance strategies.

I fully respect and encourage Donald Trump to tell the ravenous, duplicitous and lecherous American press to go to hell, and mind their own business. This has NOTHING to do with his qualifications to be President.

This looks like tax returns he submitted for other reasons ... and some time ago.
 

mentalfloss

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Re: Donald Trump's Tax Returns Showed That He Paid Nothing

Of course it matters. But since your outrage is fake anyway maybe not. You should be directing your ire at the ones responsible for writing such a tax code. not at the people smart enough to use it as written. Obama has been in office for decades so why hasn't he cured the problem?

What outrage?
 

mentalfloss

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Trump signed off on fraudulent deal that cost U.S. taxpayers millions

Small potatoes in my opinion, but for the taxprayers that really care...


Exclusive: Donald Trump signed off deal designed to deprive US of tens of millions in tax

Exclusive: Donald Trump signed off deal designed to deprive US of tens of millions in tax

Donald Trump signed off on a controversial business deal that was designed to deprive the US Government of tens of millions of dollars in tax, the Telegraph can disclose.

The billionaire approved a $50 million investment in a company – only for the deal to be rewritten several weeks later as a ‘loan’.

Experts say that the effect of this move was to skirt vast tax liabilities, and court papers seen by the Telegraph allege that the deal amounted to fraud.

Independent tax accountants and lawyers said that the documents Mr Trump signed – copies of which were obtained by this newspaper as part of a three-month investigation - contained “red flags” indicating the deal was irregular.

But the Republican presumptive presidential nominee signed nonetheless.

Exclusive: Donald Trump signed off deal designed to deprive US of tens of millions in tax
 

MHz

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Re: Trump signed off on fraudulent deal that cost U.S. taxpayers millions

Build big in NYNY without any contracts without the consent of the Teamsters. That is more naive than believing the official 9/11 story.
Since every other big building was done the same way you can do the math and see how much it 'saved' in taxes, . . . . and no it wasn't given to the poor.
 

EagleSmack

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Re: Trump signed off on fraudulent deal that cost U.S. taxpayers millions

2007.... no indictment, no charges of fraud... just pure salt. lol

Panicking eh Floosy?
 

mentalfloss

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Re: Trump signed off on fraudulent deal that cost U.S. taxpayers millions

I've never seen you this triggered before. :lol: