The 'Official' Quit Picking On Trump Thread

Who Hates Trump the Most?

  • Dumbocrats

    Votes: 8 25.0%
  • Reptilicans

    Votes: 9 28.1%
  • Broads

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • Canadians

    Votes: 9 28.1%

  • Total voters
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mentalfloss

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Trump Promises Taxes: Profound Applause from his Followers

Trump: Toyota faces big tax if it builds Corolla cars for U.S. in Mexico

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump on Thursday targeted Toyota Motor Corp (7203.T), threatening to impose a hefty fee on the Japanese automaker it if builds its Corolla cars for the U.S. market at a plant in Mexico.

"Toyota Motor said will build a new plant in Baja, Mexico, to build Corolla cars for U.S. NO WAY! Build plant in U.S. or pay big border tax," Trump said in a post on Twitter.

This was Trump's latest broadside against automakers building cars in Mexico and first against a foreign automaker. The president-elect's attacks on investments by companies in Mexico have cast a shadow over cross-border production networks central to more than $583 billion a year in trade between the two countries.

The value of the Mexican peso has skidded amid fears that Trump's policies would harm Latin America's second-biggest economy.

Toyota, which announced its plan to build a new Mexican facility in April 2015, said the plant in Guanajuato city would not take away from U.S. employment.

"Toyota looks forward to collaborating with the Trump administration to serve in the best interests of consumers and the automotive industry," Toyota spokesman Scott Vazin said.

Trump's tweet confuses Toyota's existing Baja plant with the planned $1 billion plant in Guanajuato city. Baja produces around 100,000 pick-up trucks and truck beds annually. The plant in Guanajuato will build Corollas and have an annual capacity of 200,000 when it comes online in 2019, shifting production of the small car from Canada.

Following Trump's tweet, the automaker's American Depositary Receipts traded on the U.S. market, fell 0.5 percent to $120.45 on the New York Stock Exchange.

Toyota President Akio Toyoda said in Japan on Thursday that the automaker has no immediate plans to curb production in Mexico, preferring to wait until after Trump's Jan. 20 inauguration before deciding whether to make any changes.

"We will consider our option as we see what policies the incoming president adopts," Toyoda said at an industry gathering in Tokyo on Thursday before Trump's tweet, when asked whether his company was considering any changes to a production plant the automaker was building in Mexico.

Automakers in the United States have been slammed by Trump for building cars in lower-cost factories south of the border, which he said costs American jobs. Pressure to curb that production intensified this week after Ford Motor Co (F.N) scrapped plans to build a $1.6 billion assembly plant in Mexico after Trump harshly criticized the investment.

Ford, however, still plans to shift production of small cars to Mexico from Michigan, even as it uses $700 million from the planned Mexico investment to expand its operations in Flat Rock, Michigan, and add 700 jobs.

During the campaign, Trump criticized barriers to U.S. auto exports to Japan and said the U.S. government did not do enough to open the market to more American-made vehicles.

"Until you open your markets, you’re not selling any more cars over here,” Trump said of Japan in an August 2015 interview with the Detroit News. “That’s going to force people to build in the United States."

Toyota has extensive U.S. investments, operates 10 U.S. plants in eight states and builds more than 2 million vehicles in the United States annually.

Trump has also said General Motors Co (GM.N) could become subject to tariffs on Mexico-made cars for the U.S. market, and that he would like to renegotiate terms of the North American Free Trade Agreement signed with Canada and Mexico, or scrap it altogether.

Trump: Toyota faces big tax if it builds Corolla cars for U.S. in Mexico | Reuters
 

Kreskin

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Re: Trump Promises Taxes: Profound Applause from his Followers

Make America More Expensive to live in again.
 

Machjo

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Re: Trump Promises Taxes: Profound Applause from his Followers

Not surprising. He Tariffs might be Trump's favourite tax. Another tax he supports in moderation is a wealth tax. Though I wholeheartedly disagree with him on tariffs, I can agree with him on a moderate wealth tax. Many republican representatives though will probably oppose both taxes, though the Democrats might support the wealth tax and maybe even the tariffs.
 

TenPenny

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Re: Trump Promises Taxes: Profound Applause from his Followers

Obviously, the first thing Toyota would due is to launch a lawsuit under the terms of NAFTA. That would likely last as long as his term of office.
 

MHz

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Re: Trump Promises Taxes: Profound Applause from his Followers

Actually he needs to take it back to 1913 in terms of reversing things.
The $700M that is being used in the US is probably the money that would have been spend producing vehicles destined for the US market anyway. If a portion of Ford is staying does that mean Bronco is the truck division and to do commuter vehicles one manufacturer is being given preference if they manufacture cars for the US market in the US. I assume Mexico could impost a 35% tax on US made vehicles. Making them in the US allows the US to add their own innovations that might make it profitable if the software can be sold back to the parent company. That would also mean neither auto factory would be tooling up to include an export market.
Canada and Mexico better start looking at setting up trade deals that include petroleum plastics used in auto factories. Mexico has the weather that snowbirds like, they need less gunfire before tourism can be a stable business.
At least Trump has plans that don't include using the petrodollar as the currency so deals like NAFTA also have to be scrapped as it includes 'money for nothing items' as well.
I don't think that means lumber and such are going to be local products only or that US roads couldn't be used by truckers going between Mexico and Canada. Trump is a business man and that means the more wheels that are turning the better the business is working. It probably means more people will be like shareholders rather than factory floor workers as the menial tasks can be done by machine labor rather than hand labor.

Obviously, the first thing Toyota would due is to launch a lawsuit under the terms of NAFTA. That would likely last as long as his term of office.
Get them to turn off all the trucks ISIS is using or they come under the supporting terrorists act.
 

Machjo

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Re: Trump Promises Taxes: Profound Applause from his Followers

It will be interesting to see how he governs once in office.
 

Remington1

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Re: Trump Promises Taxes: Profound Applause from his Followers

Hopefully it will work and bring some of those jobs in the US. Too bad we don't have anybody bringing automotive jobs in Canada.
 

Machjo

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Re: Trump Promises Taxes: Profound Applause from his Followers

Hopefully it will work and bring some of those jobs in the US. Too bad we don't have anybody bringing automotive jobs in Canada.

It goes both ways though. If Trump plays this game, other states could reciprocate.
 

Angstrom

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Holly $hit I've never seen anyone so salty in my life :laughing3:
 

Curious Cdn

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Salty means "You're wrong". It's the idiotic internet expression of the moment and it will soon pass when the Sesame Street attention span types pick up on a new and similarly mindless catch phrase.
 

darkbeaver

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Re: Trump Promises Taxes: Profound Applause from his Followers

I didn't know that the president could just override nafta at will.

You must have suspected though. I hope.
Naftas just a goddamn piece of paper.
Bush the moron,