Considering your lifestyle, the only nail head you hit was your own. That was what I was laughing at.
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Considering your lifestyle, the only nail head you hit was your own. That was what I was laughing at.
"The best Jewish jokes I have heard were done by Jewish comedians the christian jokes i've heard were done by religious people....
I still say that atheist are waayy too uptight"
Right on!!!
The real, genuine sense of humour is the ability to laugh at oneself.
Show me just ONE liberal whose humour is not at someone else's expense.
I still say that atheist are waayy too uptight"
Right on!!!
The real, genuine sense of humour is the ability to laugh at oneself.
Show me just ONE liberal whose humour is not at someone else's expense.
No side-tracking pls....let's keepit about religion
On that note, we had a real modern and popular priest in our Parish some time back..
He would make his sermons (Real short) using a remote lapel mike, not from the pulpit, but walking amongst the parishioners.
One day noticing that one gentlemen who wasn't part of the parish was always in his church, he asked him, in a nice way, why he came to church here.
The guy answered him truthfully that it was because he kept his sermons short and interesting:smile:
So the priest ended his sermon with this story......................
.......This farmer is on the road to go feed his cows with a haywagon when he spots a big tent in a field.
He stops by and It’s a traveling preacher all set up for Sunday meeting, but nobody came…..
So the preacher asks him to come in and sit down….
He tells the preacher “Your not gonna have a sermon just for me are you?”
The preacher responds ….When you go to feed your cows…if there is only one cow in a particular field, you feed it? Don’t you?
So the farmer sits down and the preacher goes on with his fire and brimstone sermon for an hour…
At the end, he shakes the farmer’s hand as he’s leaving and asks him how he liked the sermon?
The farmer answers’……When I go and feed the cows and it’s just ole’ Bessie in the back forty………………..I feed her…..but I don’t dump the whole load on her….
There are things that Catholics can dissent legitimately with the Church. But on the fundamental doctrines of life, which includes abortion, contraception, sexuality they cannot, if they consider themselves real Catholics. The Church has never pretended to be democracy on dogma that has been stipulated by God.
On matters of the the marriage of priests, that is a Church law, not 'God's Law' and therefor subject to change.. but there is no chance that this will happen. A married priesthood would create as many problems as it would solve.
When the Church made celibacy obligatory 1000 years ago, it did so to prevent parishes and offices from becoming family fiefdoms. But also because it deemed the nature of the priesthood as one of renunciation of worldly things, and as a surrogate for Christ, and was inconsistent with the obligations of family.
As to the male preisthood, the Church has defined this as divinely ordained, since all of the Apostles were male, and it is not within its power to change. It's not even on the table for discussion, despite some renegade lay groups (like the Voice of the Faithful) who put it on the media's agenda.
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Ones who take their faith seriously.
<--- real Christians.
My point exactly. Hence my posting the definition of "free thought".
And what is my lifestyle in comparison to my beliefs? Do I break them? No. Do I break any that other people insist I use (Canadian laws)? No.
and I don't break any of my beliefs, or are you now going to tell me what I believe?
ummmmm...yes we can, and we can still consider ourselves Catholics and Christians. No "human" has the right to judge another. Judgment is left to one entity and one entity only. Only He has the power or authority to judge whether I, or anyone else, has lived their lives accordingly.
and as I have said before, as far as I am concerned, the Church has made mistakes in it's interpretation of scripture. Unlike others though, I am unwilling to throw the Church away because of mistakes.
Nope. I won't tell you what you think or whether you pick your ass and then your nose with the same finger. lmao
I'm just saying that religious dogma limits thought.
See? Atheists and agnostics don't have those rules about who can judge or not and when.
That's a Christian limitation on thought. If I try something unfamiliar and make mistakes at it, I usually give myself 2 or 3 attempts and if I'm still making the mistakes, I try a different way entirely. I wouldn't even consider trying it for as long as the RCC likes to hang onto its hangups."I'm just saying that religious dogma limits thought."
Just look at how religion rotted the minds and limited the thoughts of some who could have been geniuses only if they had been atheists. Like Isaac Newton, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Benjamin Franklin, Giuseppe Verdi, Thomas Edison, Albert Einstein, Charles Dickens, Louis Pastaeur, etc., etc. Poor, religious fools, all!
If only they listened to Dawkins, Hitchens, AnnaG or SirJosephPorter!
Just look at how religion rotted the minds and limited the thoughts of some who could have been geniuses only if they had been atheists. Like Isaac Newton, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Benjamin Franklin, Giuseppe Verdi, Thomas Edison, Albert Einstein, Charles Dickens, Louis Pastaeur, etc., etc. Poor, religious fools, all!
If only they listened to Dawkins, Hitchens, AnnaG or SirJosephPorter!
lmao That's a poor attempt at spin, Jack. Either that or my point went whizzing by you at the speed of a drunken snail.
You don't have a point, that is the problem. Your continued assertion that religious "dogma" some how limits a persons thoughts is completely out to lunch. Besides the ones mentioned by YJ, the person that first postulated the big bang theory was a Catholic Priest.
Georges-Henri Lemaitre Biography - Father of the Big Bang Theory
Really? Let us see how religion rotted the minds and limited the thoughts of:
The Crusaders
The Inquisitors
The Church in the Dark ages, when it mercilessly persecuted the scientists and burned some of them at the stake.
The witch hunters, who killed women by hundreds of thousands in Medieval Europe (and of course during Salem Witch trials).
The slave owners, who justified their owning slaves based upon the Bible
Coming into today’s world,
Segregationists in the South, who justified the second class treatment given to blacks by reference to the Bible.
Abortion clinic bombers, murderers of abortion performing doctors.
Gay bashers, those who beat up gays in the name of religion
Those who want to imprison gays for ten years for participating in consensual sex (as they would like to do in the Bible Belt, if only the Supreme Court would let them).
The list goes on and on. And I haven’t even touched on other religions, how Islam rots the minds of the Muslim terrorists, how Sikhism rotted the minds of Air India terrorists and so on. Religion had done a great job of corrupting and perverting the minds of many.
Ridiculous
The Enlightenment and the Scientific Revolution took place in Christian societies.........and the movers of both were intensely religious men.
The witch trials killed at most 150,000 world-wide, AT MOST, in over 300 years.........and the vast majority of those trials and executions were undertaken by civil, not religious authorities.
Slavery was practically universal in human society, and you can not name me another society that banished it before the Western Christian societies........largely because of the work of Christian activists.
Democracy and the theories of the rights of man sprang from religious minds....most notably that of John Locke, who was inspired by the idea that all men were equal in the eyes of God.
Segregationists inspired by religion??? Have you forgotten that the Civil Rights movement was powered by the Southern Baptist Conference, led by Baptist preacher Martin Luther King???? The people that won the battle did so on largely religious grounds.
So democracy, the universal rights of man, the abolition of slavery, civil rights in the USA, social development in Canada were all inspired and driven by the very religious..........indeed usually by clerics...........John Locke, Martin Luther King, Tommy Douglas, Stanley Knowles, the Quakers, to say nothing of Desmond Tutu in South Africa....... and on and on and on......
And even now, if you want to help in the areas of the world stricken by poverty or natural disaster, the best places to send your money are religious based....World Vision for one.....
I submit that the world is a much better place thanks to the efforts of people who were devoted believers in the Judea-Christian God.........
I can't speak for Muslims, Hindus, or any of the rest.......