The Official Contempt for Alberta Thread

petros

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Re: Notley Ontario-bound, aiming to rescue Energy East

Wow. Notley must be pretty f-cking desperate to have to pimp her 25% of the line's content.
 

mentalfloss

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IdRatherBeSkiing

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Re: Alberta oilpatch workers not getting any sympathy from Canadians

Given that Alberta was paying transfer payments and helping the hopelessly managed provinces like Ontario, it is only fair now that fortunes have turned that it is reversed. In theory programs like EI and Social Assistance should already be in place to help individuals.

But Trudeau doesn't give a rats *** about the west. He is like his daddy that way. They guy should have just asked for a selfie.
 

petros

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Re: Alberta oilpatch workers not getting any sympathy from Canadians

The tides have turned since daddy's days. The west holds the cards.
 

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Re: Alberta oilpatch workers not getting any sympathy from Canadians

I asked a lady some time ago , why is the world the way it is. She gave a simple answer. " Everyone doing their own thing".
 

wulfie68

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Re: Notley Ontario-bound, aiming to rescue Energy East

Coderre and his ilk just want to protect the way of life of their poor Saudi friends! Stop hating!
 

petros

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Re: Notley Ontario-bound, aiming to rescue Energy East

Despite being a major producer and exporter of crude oil, Canada also imports oil from abroad, largely into eastern Canada. This is largely because there has been little infrastructure connecting Western Canadian oil supplies to eastern Canadian markets.

Canadian crude oil imports have decreased since 2010 at an average rate of five per cent per year. In the first eight months of 2014, total crude oil imports averaged 634 thousand barrels per day (101 thousand cubic metres per day), down from over 800 thousand barrels per day (127 thousand cubic metres per day) in 2010.

While the closure of refineries in Quebec and Nova Scotia are partially responsible for decreased imports, much of the decline is because light crude oil imported into Eastern Canada from offshore is being replaced by less expensive Western Canadian crude oil. With improvements to infrastructure and the recent commissioning of rail offloading facilities at Eastern Canadian refineries, the downward trend in oil imports is likely to continue in the near future.
 

davesmom

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Re: Alberta oilpatch workers not getting any sympathy from Canadians

I think Trudeau has an axe to grind with Alberta over the anger Alberta demonstrated toward his daddy. They probably won't get much help from him! Trudeau's too busy worrying about the refugees to care about Canadians.
 

damngrumpy

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Re: Alberta oilpatch workers not getting any sympathy from Canadians

First of all this is a Canadian problem and we all suffer when components
of our economy go down. I do sympathize with Alberta and I hope something
can be done to help the province out.
Many do not feel the same and are a little smug about lady lucks turn of a
cold shoulder. Why? Remember people from Alberta telling Maritime rs they
were lazy and if there was no work they should move? Well there was no
place to move to and the Maritimers were taking the worst of the fishery
collapse. So where do the Albertan's move to? There was talk of why should
we contribute to the rest of the country we have oil? Well for now they have
oil that has no value on the market. Don't have governments interfere we
want free market only. Remember those hard driven statements?
Well I came back from the east yesterday and there is some people who have
no sympathy but there are also many who say perhaps its a lesson for the
arrogance they accused everyone else of and many others understand it is not
a good thing at all.
There was a lot of bravado and arrogance and that did not sit well with others


 

Jinentonix

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Re: Alberta oilpatch workers not getting any sympathy from Canadians

Gee, I wonder why...
Because of smug a$$holes like you. Eastern Canada (well Ontario and Quebec anyway) has always looked at the West like it's our red-headed step child or something, well until they got a whiff of all that oil money. Now that the cash cow has dried up, Ontario and Quebec are back to their position of "f*ck you, Alberta".


Maybe if people canned the regional bullsh*t and started acting like this is a goddam country, we'd have less acrimony between Canadians.
 

mentalfloss

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Re: Alberta oilpatch workers not getting any sympathy from Canadians

No, it's because of dirty oil.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Re: Alberta oilpatch workers not getting any sympathy from Canadians

... And resources are the exclusive realm of the provinces.

Won't be any NEPs for this country


He doesn't need our resources. He has resourcefulness.

No, it's because of dirty oil.

The Maritime Provinces and Ontario imports oil from Saudi Arabia, that's the dirtiest kind of oil you can buy.

 

damngrumpy

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Re: Alberta oilpatch workers not getting any sympathy from Canadians

Well before Oil Alberta didn't have much going for it either
I think part of the problem is because many profile folks
from that province were arrogant as hell and now its not
so rosy. Many don't understand most Albertan's are like
anywhere else sure they are proud of home but they are
not boastful as the minority who make noise
 

mentalfloss

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Oil export pipelines: Will Canada ever build another?

No?

Why would we?

It's a defunct industry.


Oil export pipelines: Will Canada ever build another?

The fate of new oil pipelines in Canada is in a sorry state.

The imperilled Northern Gateway project. The Obama-rejected Keystone XL venture. The protest-filled Trans Mountain expansion. And the suspect political support around the Energy East proposal.

With the oil market in a severe downturn and stiff opposition greeting every pipeline proposal, there is debate over whether this country will ever break ground on new export pipelines.

Even veterans of the oilpatch aren't certain of the answer.

"It's a legitimate question," said David Collyer, the former president of the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers (CAPP). "It's not out of the realm of possibility."

The merits of using pipelines are clear: they are the safest, most cost-effective and least carbon-intensive method of transporting oil. The risks are just as indisputable: spills are rare but can be catastrophic, causing significant damage to the environment, especially around bodies of water.

Alberta is craving a new avenue to export its oil, which would allow the province to receive global prices for its crude, rather than selling it at a discount.

Whether oil prices are above $100 US a barrel, as they were in 2014, or sitting at less $30 US a barrel, like now, every dollar less that the province receives, compared to market prices, makes a difference.

"We're stuck in the mud at the moment and we run the risk that we missed the window of opportunity," said Collyer.

Oil export pipelines: Will Canada ever build another? - Business - CBC News