The Myth of the Good Guy With a Gun

[Colpy]

your data and methodology to arrive at this summation, YOUR apparent "foreordained conclusion", is missing...



the article provides a link to PubMed (and the study abstract)... from there you can quite easily gain linked access to the full study as originally published in the "American Journal of Medicine" - Gun Ownership and Firearm-related Deaths ... study authors are two medical doctors from the New York University School of Medicine



the article appears fully sourced... in regards your question, per your own quote of the article, both studies referenced have provided links.



again, the Slate article's linked reference (politico.com) speaks to the origination of "DGU" (as used by the gun industry/proponents) as the 1992 random digit-dial survey of 5000 individuals... that was extrapolated to the U.S., at large, providing the "de-facto" claims of a U.S. DGU estimate of between 1 million and 2.5 million defensive gun uses per year. Of course, the article also speaks to other studies/references that dispute this figure; that speak to bias in that 1992 "phone survey".



an article and results you clearly don't favour is..... "propaganda"??? I read an article that is heavily sourced with linked references. You appear to have no interest/inclination to actually follow the sourced references. Is there a problem?

It is garbage, as I have just proven in 15 minutes on the net.

Absolute anti-freedom propaganda perpetuated by scum with an agenda.

 

[Walter]

Lowest murder rate: Iowa: 1.4 per 100,000 Brady rating C-
Second lowest: Hawaii: 1.5 per 100,000 Brady rating B+
Third lowest: Vermont: 1.6 per 100,000 Brady rating F
Fourth lowest: Utah: 1.7 per 100,000 Brady rating F

And the states with the best ratings?

California: Highest Brady Rating of A- :Murder rate 4.6 per 100,000
New York: Highest Brady Rating of A- Murder rate 3.3 per 100,000
Maryland: Highest Brady Rating of A- Murder rate 6.4 per 100,000
Connecticut: Highest Brady Rating of A- Murder rate 2.4 per 100,000

Those are the ONLY states with any kind of "A" rating.

The left doesn't like empirical data. Data doesn't have feelings.

 

[petros]

Just clean his clock with this......

Bad link

 

[waldo]

It is garbage, as I have just proven in 15 minutes on the net.

Absolute anti-freedom propaganda perpetuated by scum with an agenda.

of course... yours is a "PROVEN PROOF"!!! :mrgreen: How over-the-top are you to label, for example, the 2 medical doctors that authored the OP article's principal referenced study, "scum"... with an agenda, no less? "Anti-freedom"??? Oh my!

 

[DaSleeper]

Bad link

I tought I fixed it...

 

[petros]

of course... yours is a "PROVEN PROOF"!!! :mrgreen: How over-the-top are you to label, for example, the 2 medical doctors that authored the OP article's principal referenced study, "scum"... with an agenda, no less? "Anti-freedom"??? Oh my!

Of course. They are liars like you therefore scum.

 

[waldo]

Of course. They are liars like you therefore scum.

petros dancing! Dance petros, dance!

 

[petros]

I tought I fixed it...

NFG on my end.

petros dancing! Dance petros, dance!

You're the liar therefore the dancing scum.

 

[waldo]

clearly, the clubhouseBROs are not at all comfortable with any form of dissenting opinion! So the clubhouseBROs do what they do best! They attempt to marginalize with overt insult or C&P image wizardry that completely disrespects the CC Forum and its membership. What are the clubhouseBROs so afraid of?

You're the liar therefore the dancing scum.

such a sad lil' degenerate facker you are!

 

[DaSleeper]

NFG on my end.


You're the liar therefore the dancing scum.

I linked to this...
http://www.rona.ca/images/0271003_L.jpg

 

[captain morgan]

Guns don't kill people.. Global Warming kills people

 

[waldo]

DuhSleeper, I can't read you!!! :mrgreen: Just what are you up to? Surely not more drywall imagery? Say it ain't so lapdogBRO; say it ain't so!

 

[DaSleeper]

Guns don't kill people.. Global Warming kills people

Swallowing the progressive bullshyte is politicaly correct don't you know.......

 

[petros]

I linked to this...
http://www.rona.ca/images/0271003_L.jpg

Ahhh threw in the trowel. Good idea.

 

[waldo]

Ahhh threw in the trowel. Good idea.

whaaa! Simple minds can't seem to rise above/beyond drywall!!! :mrgreen:

 

[Colpy]

of course... yours is a "PROVEN PROOF"!!! :mrgreen: How over-the-top are you to label, for example, the 2 medical doctors that authored the OP article's principal referenced study, "scum"... with an agenda, no less? "Anti-freedom"??? Oh my!

When you are pulling off the most blatant scams in your methodology, you are scum with an agenda.

And I am not impressed with the word doctor.........I've known a few.

Dr. Joseph Mengele

Oh, and I have provided the raw data from two progressive sites, the Brady Campaign and the Death Penalty Info Center.

You have suitably answered the question Can you think for yourself?

The answer is, sadly, a resounding NO!

 

[mentalfloss]

So without getting heated about this (lol), can I get a summation of the general criticisms?


Here is what I gather so far...


1.) Poor/no sources
2.) Bad interpretation of the data (causality argument)
3.) Contradictory evidence


Is this good so far?


I would like to take the time to get through this properly, so let's forget the loaded terminology for now (myth, liberal, left/right, scam/scum, CAPS, etc.)

 

[petros]

DuhSleeper, I can't read you!!! :mrgreen: Just what are you up to? Surely not more drywall imagery? Say it ain't so lapdogBRO; say it ain't so!

It ain't so. Trowels are for masonry and concrete finishing. Skilled work, not drywall.

So without getting heated about this (lol), can I get a summation of the general criticisms?


Here is what I gather so far...


1.) Poor/no sources
2.) Bad interpretation of the data (causality argument)
3.) Contradictory evidence


Is this good so far?


I would like to take the time to get through this properly, so let's forget the loaded terminology for now (myth, liberal, left/right, CAPS, etc.)

Just politely ask Copy and you'll gets facts out the yinyang.

 

[waldo]

sorry Colpy... your latest post must be buried... by drywall references from those who would prefer to disrespect the forum, the membership... and your post. Subject related information has no place in this thread... within this forum. Only drywall and dancing is allowed! Dance petros, dance! More drywall... please!

 

[petros]

Another meth binge waldo?