The mistake of scientists about the origin of life.

[look3467]

We are to be of all people different in this respect, that we demonstrate what God is in the face of a lost world.
Now, are we to do it with love and understanding, or are we to condemn the world for not understanding?
Don't you know that we are the light of the world, meaning showing a good path where no one can stumble?
Or are we not to share it and allow them to stumble?

Teach, my friend the kindness , gentleness and love of God by demonstrating it.



Peace>>>AJ

 

[eanassir]

We have a choice to believe or not to believe at the expense of God's Son.(Free gift)

The second Adam is a similitude of the first Adam as far as beginnings is concerned.

The first was made flesh and brought death.
The second was made a quickening spirit and brought life.

I tell you the truth: God is One, not three. The three are not one, and the one is not three.God is Eternal; He has no son, neither has He any daughter, nor nephew, nor niece, nor uncle nor aunt.How can He have any son, while He has no wife (or girl friend!)?Will He beget any son or will He adopt any son; such as less than a two meters long mortal, that pass bowel motion and urine?Or will He adopt any son? Then what is this man in relation to the large number of galaxies?In case God has any son, then I should be the first one to worship this son; but – glory be to God – He has not taken to Himself any wife neither any son.There is no need to such words of enthusiasm about Jesus; in fact they adopted such words from the ancient Greeks and other idolatrous nations who claimed their kings were the sons of gods.Moreover, you claim that you love and follow Jesus Christ – peace be on him – so in case he will come and tell you that: God is One only without any associate, and that God has no son, and that Jesus is a righteous servant of God and His prophet and apostle; then are you ready to follow him, or will you go on in your enthusiasm that will make you nearer to idolatry rather than to a monotheist?eanassir

http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com
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[eanassir]

You have a chance to do Gods work here eanassir, I wonder if you realize just how much in league with Satan that Dexter Sinister is. If I were a religious person I'd miss no oportunity at slagging D.S. and thereby insuring a place in heaven/paradize/nirvana/florida or whereever it is you want to go.

I have no such plan against D.S.; but beware, darkbeaver, that Satan and devils: the invisible enemy, may come to any one, even to prophets and righteous men, in order to deceive them, and stir enmity among them. However, I think you cannot stir D. S. against me!

eanassir.

 

[look3467]

How can He have any son, while He has no wife (or girl friend!)?>>>eanassir

Human mentality has no place in Gods understanding.
Luk 24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

See, human nature without the help of God will not understand the things of God.

1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[Dexter Sinister]

...you cannot stir D. S. against me!

No, you do a pretty good job of that yourself. Consider this sentence of yours, for instance: "I didn't tell you and cannot tell anyone that he will go to Hell or Paradise; but the atheist [who denies God], the disbeliever and the associater [that associates others with God] will be admitted to Hell without any judgment," Don't you see what that actually says? It says you can't tell me that a certain proposition is true, but then you tell me it is anyway.

 

[darkbeaver]

I have no such plan against D.S.; but beware, darkbeaver, that Satan and devils: the invisible enemy, may come to any one, even to prophets and righteous men, in order to deceive them, and stir enmity among them. However, I think you cannot stir D. S. against me!

eanassir.

So how are we to be sure that you haven't been posessed?
P.S. Sinister's a self-stired model.:lol:

 

[darkbeaver]

I tell you the truth: God is One, not three. The three are not one, and the one is not three.
God is Eternal; He has no son, neither has He any daughter, nor nephew, nor niece, nor uncle nor aunt.
How can He have any son, while He has no wife (or girl friend!)?
Will He beget any son or will He adopt any son; such as less than a two meters long mortal, that pass bowel motion and urine?
Or will He adopt any son? Then what is this man in relation to the large number of galaxies?
In case God has any son, then I should be the first one to worship this son; but – glory be to God – He has not taken to Himself any wife neither any son.
There is no need to such words of enthusiasm about Jesus; in fact they adopted such words from the ancient Greeks and other idolatrous nations who claimed their kings were the sons of gods.
Moreover, you claim that you love and follow Jesus Christ – peace be on him – so in case he will come and tell you that: God is One only without any associate, and that God has no son, and that Jesus is a righteous servant of God and His prophet and apostle; then are you ready to follow him, or will you go on in your enthusiasm that will make you nearer to idolatry rather than to a monotheist?

eanassir​

http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com

I agree completly. Very interesting reading this book of your's. Who wrote it?

 

[darkbeaver]

No, you do a pretty good job of that yourself. Consider this sentence of yours, for instance: "I didn't tell you and cannot tell anyone that he will go to Hell or Paradise; but the atheist [who denies God], the disbeliever and the associater [that associates others with God] will be admitted to Hell without any judgment," Don't you see what that actually says? It says you can't tell me that a certain proposition is true, but then you tell me it is anyway.

There's a very bright side though Dexter. The finest central heating in the universe.:smile:

 

[Tonington]

There's a very bright side though Dexter. The finest central heating in the universe.:smile:

I hear the salt baths are very nice there too:lol:

 

[darkbeaver]

I hear the salt baths are very nice there too:lol:

:lol:

 

[darkbeaver]

:lol:

Imagine how little weight the threat of hell carries with Canadians in winter.

 

[eanassir]

No, you do a pretty good job of that yourself. Consider this sentence of yours, for instance: "I didn't tell you and cannot tell anyone that he will go to Hell or Paradise; but the atheist [who denies God], the disbeliever and the associater [that associates others with God] will be admitted to Hell without any judgment," Don't you see what that actually says? It says you can't tell me that a certain proposition is true, but then you tell me it is anyway.

This is generally speaking; it does not concern you or anyone else; because an atheist may turn one morning to be a believer, and a believer may turn one night to be a disbeliever; all that is up to God's guidance; He is All-Knowing about people. But in case one keeps up his atheism or association with God, then I cannot give any invented law of my own accord.

eanassir

http://universeandquran.741.com
http://man-after-death.741.com
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com​

 

[eanassir]

So how are we to be sure that you haven't been posessed?

The one that calls people to God alone is not possessed, but the one who calls others to associate other gods with God are possessed.

Jesus Christ, like other prophets, was accused of being possessed, but he explained that such a thing is impossible; because he worked against the plan of Satan and devils; that is because he called people to the Commandments of God and in particular to the most important one of them: The First Commandment that God is One.

God - be exalted - said in the Quran 13: 14

لَهُ دَعْوَةُ الْحَقِّ وَالَّذِينَ يَدْعُونَ مِن دُونِهِ لاَ يَسْتَجِيبُونَ لَهُم بِشَيْءٍ​

The explanation: (His [preaching] is the preaching of truth; but those who call to other than Him, they answer them not at all)
The interpretation: To Him is the preaching of truth, and anyone who calls people to God alone, then his preaching or invitation pertains to the truth, and he is worthy of being followed; and when he calls upon God, God will answer him and grant him his request.
But those who call to others besides God and make equals and associates with God; such pertains to Satan and the devils, and such are in error, and will mislead themselves and other people.
Therefore, here is the decisive criterion [ I hope I have expressed it right]: the apostle and his followers will summon people to God alone; they pertain to God alone.
The rest will invite people to associate others with God making them equals to God, and these pertain to Satan and the devil; because he works against God.
Moreover, I and all others have to seek refuge in God from the inciting and suggestions of Satan and the devils.

eanassir​

http://man-after-death.741.com

 

[eanassir]

Imagine how little weight the threat of hell carries with Canadians in winter.

Hell is the sun and its gaseous layers.
http://man-after-death.741.com/2.htm#Hell

eanassir

 

[eanassir]

I hear the salt baths are very nice there too

Hell now is the sun and its gaseous layers; but on Doomsday this sun will burst and break up into 19 new planets that will revolve around the nearest sun.
Hell in fact is called Saqar; it is the nearest sun (other than our present sun); it is bigger than the present sun; it looms now to people from farway and they see it a star in the sky, but they don't know that it is Hell.
God - be exalted - said in the Quran 74:

وَمَا أَدْرَاكَ مَا سَقَرُ . لَا تُبْقِي وَلَا تَذَرُ . لَوَّاحَةٌ لِّلْبَشَرِ . عَلَيْهَا تِسْعَةَ عَشَرَ .​

The explanation: (But can you imagine what Saqar is!?
It does not leave [anyone]; it does not spare [anything.]
It is [nowadays] looming to mankind.
Imposed upon it [the attraction of] nineteen [planets.] )

eanassir
http://universeandquran.741.com
http://man-after-death.741.com​

 

[eanassir]

I agree completly. Very interesting reading this book of your's. Who wrote it?

This is according to the interpretation of the late Mohammed-Ali Hassan, the inspired interpreter of the Quran and the Bible.
eanassir

http://universeandquran.741.com
http://man-after-death.741.com
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com​

 

[Tonington]

Hell now is the sun and its gaseous layers; but on Doomsday this sun will burst and break up into 19 new planets that will revolve around the nearest sun.
Hell in fact is called Saqar; it is the nearest sun (other than our present sun); it is bigger than the present sun; it looms now to people from farway and they see it a star in the sky, but they don't know that it is Hell.

If Hell is in fact the sun, where would one find Zamhareer? As I understand it, Hell in the Islamic faith is similar to the depictions of Hell in Dante's work.

 

[eanassir]

You have a chance to do Gods work here eanassir, I wonder if you realize just how much in league with Satan that Dexter Sinister is. If I were a religious person I'd miss no oportunity at slagging D.S. and thereby insuring a place in heaven/paradize/nirvana/florida or whereever it is you want to go.

Paradise is ethereal, not material. It is called in the Gospel: the kingdom of heavens. It is situated in the outer space; but nobody may know its exact place; God sends the angels to guide believers to it on the Judgment Day.

See: http://universeandquran.741.com/#Ethereal Heavens
http://man-after-death.741.com/2.htm#Paradise_(or_the_Garden)_

eanassir.

 

[eanassir]

If Hell is in fact the sun, where would one find Zamhareer? As I understand it, Hell in the Islamic faith is similar to the depictions of Hell in Dante's work.

Zamhareer is the moon in the language of some Arab tribes; they thought that the coldness comes from Moon, just as that the heat comes from Sun.

Refer to our website

http://man-after-death.741.com​

and see there the subject of:
http://man-after-death.741.com/2.htm#Paradise_(or_the_Garden)_

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· God - be exalted - said in the Quran, 76: 13

مُتَّكِئينَ فِيها عَلَى الأرائكِ لا يَرَوْنَ فِيها شَمْساً و لا زَمْهَرِيراً .​

The explanation Reclining therein upon couches, they shall neither see therein sun [or heat], nor moon[1][or piercing cold.] )
I say: How can man live without sun, while it is the essential thing for man's life? But it is the soul that will enter into Paradise, not bodies. For this reason, God - be exalted – said:

لا يَرَوْنَ فِيها شَمْساً و لا زَمْهَرِيراً​

i.e. (they shall neither see therein sun [or heat], nor moon[or piercing cold.] ); that is because souls are harmed by sun rays, heat and bright light.
It means: They do not see, in Paradise, neither sun nor moon, and neither heat nor will coldness overtake them.
Some of the Arab tribes call the moon زَمْهَرِير which denotes severe coldness; because they thought that the coldness comes from the moon, just as how the heat comes from the sun!"

[1]The Arabic word زَمْهَرِير in this Quranic revelation, means the 'moon' according to the tongue of some Arab tribes.

eanassir.

 

[look3467]

OK, let's see if I got this correct, "but they don't know that it is Hell", is saying that you know it is hell but they don't know it is hell?

It's either we know it as hell or we don't. And if we don't know, then how can we say it is hell?

Now, the bible speaks of a holding place where souls were kept prisoners because they could access heaven.
Jesus then was given the keys to that place as well as to heaven.
He liberated all from that holding place (Refereed to as hell) and broke open the gates of heaven as well.

Now, whatever happens in the heavens, meaning the stars, planets and the Sun, we have nothing to add or subtract to that except to use them as signs for the seasons and for times. That is biblical.

However, if one wants to believe in all that, go for it.

Peace>>>AJ