These guys got 12 and 15 years and I'm certainly not one to judge their degree of guilt........what was in their minds is more important than their actions. Sentences of that length should be reserved for REAL criminals. Were these guys real dangerous criminals and a threat to the public, or were they merely stupid idiots?
Stupid idiots that just happened to get four people killed.
Yes, indirectly. What about the guy who supplied the gun in the first place? I think the sentences were a bit severe.
You cannot begin to equate the loss of 4 police officers with what happened to Robert Dziekanski. By saying that I do not mean his life was worth less than theirs. The death of the police officers was pre-meditated and there was not moments in which his death could have been prevented as in the case with the four officers. There was hours and hours - a whole night passed without a single phone call. To suggest that all these men are guilty of is stupidity is an insult to the four who died, at the very least. I have a slide show I would like to add in here but I don't know how to do it. I really wish I could show it to all of you. Like it or not, the penalty for killing a police officer is much higher then killing a civilian.Every life is equally valuable. Mrs. Dziekanski grieves the loss of her son. Will equal justice be done? Or, ...
They drove him to the farm.
They handed him a rifle.
Did they think he was going gopher hunting?
Zan, I mean no offense, I use sarcasm only to make the point.....and yes, I know Roscoe had them terrorized, he had everybody in the town terrorized......but they were armed as well.
And nasty evil guys stop bullets the same way everyone else does.......
And confrontation was not even necessary....a simple phone call.....
I think justice was served.....they will both be out within 5 years.
Roscoe did not use Hennessey's grandfather's rifle.
As near as I can tell, the H & K 91 Hennessey supplied to Roscoe, is a machine gun, not a deer rifle. In giving Roscoe this weapon, they pretty well sentenced the the young RCMP constables to death.
So What!!! Hennessey still gave it to him and he still had it available to him to use as a weapon of choice. The fact that he did not use it means nothing. If it was all he had, he would have used it.Roszko did not use Hennessey's grandfather's rifle.
This is where I see a problem occurring with this case. The facts are being grossly misconstrued, and the mitigating circumstances are being poo-poo'd as if they don't matter.
Well, the facts need to be weighed with full awareness of what is fact and what is just vindictive rumour... and mitigating circumstances DO need to be weighed as well. Without those factors, this whole scenario might never have gone the way it did... as Hennessy's wife said in the interview - this could have quite easily ended with the death of an entire family at the hands of Roszko AS WELL as all those officers.
They had all night - so probably about 8 - 10 hours to call the police and they made zero attempt. No one seems to remember that these men voluntarily pled guilty. This was probably on the advice of a lawyer who would have advised them that they would get "less time" if they turned themselves in. Do also remember that they told undercover police what they had done. It doesn't matter in this case if they would do it again. It matters that indirectly, they are responsible for the lives of four men. They made the choice - not to call the police. They knew beyond a doubt that no matter what it was - he was up to no good. You don't sneak onto your own property in the dark of night. The un-armed officer was not there in an offical capacity. He just stopped by to see a fellow officer. Why did Roszko shoot him?I haven't seen the program but did they make any attempt to call the Police and report a person "armed and out-of-control". If they were terrified then as soon as they were out of immediate danger to themselves or their families they could have sought help (from the guys with more guns, the Police) Barring that they should at least made some perpetrations to kill him the very next time they saw him, if they hadn't then they weren't all that terrified.