And like a brainless wh0re Canada just slurps up all their propaganda.
We slurp up our own corporate media propaganda with just as much enthusiasm.
We slurp up our own corporate media propaganda with just as much enthusiasm.
The Legacy of George W. Bush
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1. An arof occupation hardly counts as a "Democracy"
2. What new terrorist strike. That's the RNC spin doctors dictum He was complicate in not preventing the first after he was warned over and over again
3. And the highest it's been in decades in the USA. 533,000 jobs lost in November
ps. Are you going to keep up your yrly subscription to "The Bush Fanclub" after he's slunk off to "the ranch"?
Wasn't america in a Recession when Reagan took office and when he left they weren't?
..because of the biggest debt ever accumulated at time. They never got out from behind the debt eight-ball until Clinton (oops, me bad mentioning sound financial Democratic party policies)
Its not hard to look good when your predeccessor was a bumbling fool who raped the economy and at the same time initiated Operation Eagle Claw.
Substitute Illegal war in Iraq for Operation Eagle Claw you have George W. Bush. Thanks
Reagan Was one of the Better US presidents, there i said it
you and maybe 4-5 other people actually believe that
I'd suggest that was more of an "effect" than a legacy, but after he left the Texas Gosvenor's mansion as the most bloodthirsty occupant, he went into high gear.
I think your number is actually low.
I guess if it weren't for old Dubya, we'd still have Saddam, Husay and Uday around. Three fairly bad reprobates out of the way!
US job losses worst since 1974 as downturn deepens
WRAPUP 5-US job losses worst since 1974 as downturn deepens | Markets | Markets News | Reuters
* U.S. lost 533,000 jobs in November, most in 34 years
* Jobless rate hits 15-year high; job losses widespread
* Job losses in prior two months bigger than first thought
Absolutely, the worst president of all time.
WRAPUP 5-US job losses worst since 1974 as downturn deepens | Markets | Markets News | Reuters
* U.S. lost 533,000 jobs in November, most in 34 years
* Jobless rate hits 15-year high; job losses widespread
* Job losses in prior two months bigger than first thought
Absolutely, the worst president of all time.
Up until now according to what I read somewhere that "honour" has belonged to Warren G. Harding (Tea dome scandal) & from I've heard what he was doing with the ladies during working hours would make Bill Clinton look like a choir boy.
It's time George decided what he'll do once they drag him kicking and screaming from the Oval office.
Today the transition away from serving as the leader of the free world is high-profile, potentially very lucrative and, above all, a difficult job in itself.
This is especially true for Bush, historians and political observers say. He not only must oversee the construction of a presidential library and begin writing his memoirs, but he also must grapple with salvaging a legacy mired in the lowest presidential approval ratings in history.
As what? Fodder for SNL and tha late night talk shows. Maybe he can get a gig as cohost on Jerry Springer.
Today the transition away from serving as the leader of the free world is high-profile, potentially very lucrative and, above all, a difficult job in itself.
This is especially true for Bush, historians and political observers say. He not only must oversee the construction of a presidential library and begin writing his memoirs, but he also must grapple with salvaging a legacy mired in the lowest presidential approval ratings in history.
As what? Fodder for SNL and tha late night talk shows. Maybe he can get a gig as cohost on Jerry Springer.
i just browsed through that list- very interesting and probably pretty accurate. Sometime ago I read a list that put Harding dead last and Grant second to last. Guess it just depends on what criteria are being used. IMHO Nixon has to be right down there (with the possible exception of Foreign affairs) but to offset that he had a personality like a rhinocerus.
Here's the Schlessenger poll of 1996- (No Dubya yet)
Great
Near Great
Average
Below Average
Failure
Mean Score
Great
Lincoln
32
4.00
Washington
31
1
3.97
Franklin D. Roosevelt
31
1
3.97
Near Great
Jefferson
12
16
1
3.38
Jackson
11
17
1
3.34
Theodore Roosevelt
10
18
1
3.31
Wilson
11
17
1
3.21
Truman
6
21
3
3.10
Polk
2
17
8
1
2.71
High Average
Eisenhower
1
10
20
1
2.34
John Adams
10
17
1
2.32
Kennedy
9
21
1
2.29
Cleveland
8
2
1
2.24
Lyndon Johnson
15
12
3
2
2.21
Monroe
1
22
2
2.15
McKinley
5
20
2
2.11
Average
Madison
2
20
5
1
1.83
John Quincy Adams
1
18
8
1.74
Harrison
14
7
1.67
Clinton
2
17
5
2
1.58
Van Buren
18
8
1
1.56
Taft
17
9
1
1.52
Hayes
16
10
1
1.48
Bush
16
12
1
1.45
Reagan
7
11
9
4
1.42
Arthur
13
11
1
1.40
Carter
1
15
12
2
1.37
Ford
6
20
2
1.00
Below Average
Taylor
6
17
3
0.88
Coolidge
7
16
4
0.81
Fillmore
3
20
3
0.77
Tyler
6
17
5
0.68
Failure
Pierce
15
12
-9
Grant
9
18
-9
Hoover
11
9
10
-9
Nixon
2
4
5
20
-21
Andrew Johnson
2
7
17
-23
Buchanan
6
22
-38
Harding
2
26
-48
*Not every respondent voted for all the presidents, hence the discrepancies in the total number of votes.
Participants in 1996 Poll
Samuel H. Beer, Harvard University
John Morton Blum, Yale University
Alan Brinkley, Columbia University
Douglas Brinkley, University of New Orleans
Walter Dean Burnham, University of Texas
James MacGregor Burns, Williams College
Mario Cuomo
Robert Dallek, Boston University
Robert H. Ferrell, Indiana University
Louis Fisher, Library of Congress
Eric Foner, Columbia University
George Frederickson, Stanford University
Doris Kearns Goodwin
Norman Graebner, University of Virginia
Henry Graff, Columbia University
Stephen Hess, Brookings Institution
Morton Keller, Brandeis University
Louis Koenig, New York University
William Leuchtenburg, University of North Carolina
David Levering Lewis, Rutgers University
Arthur Link, Princeton University
Forrest McDonald, University of Alabama
Merrill Peterson, University of Virginia
Richard M. Pious, Barnard College
Robert V. Remini, University of Illinois at Chicago
Donald A. Ritchie, Senate Historical Office
Robert Rutland, University of Virginia
Joel Silbey, Cornell University
Paul Simon, U.S. Senate
Stephen Skowronek, Yale University
Hans Trefousse, City University of New York
Sean Wilentz, Princeton University
Voting Breakdown *
RatingGreat
Near Great
Average
Below Average
Failure
Mean Score
Great
Lincoln
32
4.00
Washington
31
1
3.97
Franklin D. Roosevelt
31
1
3.97
Near Great
Jefferson
12
16
1
3.38
Jackson
11
17
1
3.34
Theodore Roosevelt
10
18
1
3.31
Wilson
11
17
1
3.21
Truman
6
21
3
3.10
Polk
2
17
8
1
2.71
High Average
Eisenhower
1
10
20
1
2.34
John Adams
10
17
1
2.32
Kennedy
9
21
1
2.29
Cleveland
8
2
1
2.24
Lyndon Johnson
15
12
3
2
2.21
Monroe
1
22
2
2.15
McKinley
5
20
2
2.11
Average
Madison
2
20
5
1
1.83
John Quincy Adams
1
18
8
1.74
Harrison
14
7
1.67
Clinton
2
17
5
2
1.58
Van Buren
18
8
1
1.56
Taft
17
9
1
1.52
Hayes
16
10
1
1.48
Bush
16
12
1
1.45
Reagan
7
11
9
4
1.42
Arthur
13
11
1
1.40
Carter
1
15
12
2
1.37
Ford
6
20
2
1.00
Below Average
Taylor
6
17
3
0.88
Coolidge
7
16
4
0.81
Fillmore
3
20
3
0.77
Tyler
6
17
5
0.68
Failure
Pierce
15
12
-9
Grant
9
18
-9
Hoover
11
9
10
-9
Nixon
2
4
5
20
-21
Andrew Johnson
2
7
17
-23
Buchanan
6
22
-38
Harding
2
26
-48
*Not every respondent voted for all the presidents, hence the discrepancies in the total number of votes.
Participants in 1996 Poll
Samuel H. Beer, Harvard University
John Morton Blum, Yale University
Alan Brinkley, Columbia University
Douglas Brinkley, University of New Orleans
Walter Dean Burnham, University of Texas
James MacGregor Burns, Williams College
Mario Cuomo
Robert Dallek, Boston University
Robert H. Ferrell, Indiana University
Louis Fisher, Library of Congress
Eric Foner, Columbia University
George Frederickson, Stanford University
Doris Kearns Goodwin
Norman Graebner, University of Virginia
Henry Graff, Columbia University
Stephen Hess, Brookings Institution
Morton Keller, Brandeis University
Louis Koenig, New York University
William Leuchtenburg, University of North Carolina
David Levering Lewis, Rutgers University
Arthur Link, Princeton University
Forrest McDonald, University of Alabama
Merrill Peterson, University of Virginia
Richard M. Pious, Barnard College
Robert V. Remini, University of Illinois at Chicago
Donald A. Ritchie, Senate Historical Office
Robert Rutland, University of Virginia
Joel Silbey, Cornell University
Paul Simon, U.S. Senate
Stephen Skowronek, Yale University
Hans Trefousse, City University of New York
Sean Wilentz, Princeton University
Nah- I just noticed that old "Dad" Bush is rated way up at #20- it was that old bastard that caused a lot of Dubya's misery by not finishing what he started in Eye Rack. He should have anihalated Saddam when he invaded Kuwait and just after he gassed the Kurds.