The Government of Canada accelerates investments in clean electricity

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You said that before ,direct buy?Is there a website ?then have a company install?
What about selling back into the grid?China too?
Any advice here?
How is your rural crime rate in Eastern Sask?
Every night someone close is robbed,farms are being stripped of the smallest tools to trucks,while rural crime watch sleeps,
 

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I like mentalfloss. I'm going to make so much money from his naive little mind. :laughing3: he has so much blind faith in his cause.

Let the government subsidy flow again, so we can pretend.
 

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If it's a non-emitting source, then that's fine with me.

Ottawa to phase out coal, aims for virtual elimination by 2030
There is no such thing, before you get to plug anything in something has to be converted to energy and that takes energy to build in the first place. We aren't going to ditch coal when the US is going to reopen the coal mines as they have enough coal for 100,s of years. What will be developed is the cleanest way to burn it and eliminate the ash waste product and that might be expensive but there are limited uses including weed control and forest fire fighting as ash dropped via aircraft should setting on the ground and trees to reduce available fuel. It would be adding ash to an area already rich in fresh ash and that acts as a soil sterilizer as it turns into an acid when mixed with water. It might be suitable to mix with clay for fire brick in the furnaces that burn coal and air-tights in the rurals. BBQ's that burn briquets probably add more pollutants to the air than an air-tight burning coal at maximum efficiency. So abundant that it is free at any service station if you bring your own bucket. CO2 is the only other by-product that needs to be 'treated' and that is by planting green things to scrub the air and add 02. We could use ozone more and that reverts to 02 within a few hours so that lowers the CO2 ratio in effect and it is a natural by-product when used by cities for water and waste-water treatment and it can be scaled down a vehicle having a device that delivers a small amount of 02 to the driver and then to the atmosphere in general so in a 24 hour period it pollutes for 4 hours and the is adding 02 to the air for the other 20 hours. When your hair stands up on end and stays there you can dial it back just a bit. The not silver lining is now you have a population that is alert and awake and looking for something to do. That is also something that is not overly expensive when robots take care of the positions that came with wages. The money saved all the way to CEO's bonuses and pension funds can be funneled the 'welfare fund' instead and that also happens to be who the consumers are.
Child labor in Africa might be a child sitting on the bank of a muddy river operating a robot that is part of a chain of similar machines that end up with a refined product that the industrial centers need to make some device that is in high demand. Tanks as a mining robot might be the preferred exploration device in the mountains of Afghanistan when looking for samples that are easy to get at and doesn't require a lot of hard labor. A bunker buster delivered to a natural cave might free up some material to use in building a dam or some heavy duty roads just to get rid of the current stock-pile.

Perhaps the smoke-stacks need to look more like a Tesla think with lots of blue sparks surrounding the towers that creates more 02 and CO2. Sparks on the outside if it is also supposed to radiate UV light and inside the tower if it is just an air balancer designed to make the place carbon neutral even though it uses a lot of fossil fuel in the production phase of the operation.

NG/propane can produce power anyplace it is passed through a specific membrane and the by-product is CO2 and that is an acceptable by product. If it could be made into a hydrate then a lot more uses could be developed for urban and rural uses.

By the time coal is exhausted an alternative supply will be available such as turbines catching underwater currents in the coastal waters. Now we can burn coal cleanly means it is the time to expand it's use rather than eliminate it for an unproven technology that is many times more expensive.
You don't spend $1T building a national network of roads and railroads and when completed decide to move everything by water when there are only a few boats around.
 

Jinentonix

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The US is paying us.
Yep, at the market rate of 2.8 cents/kWH. Meanwhile today, Sunday November 27th, an offpeak hours day, the current rate for Ontario consumers according to the OEB is 8.7 cents/kWH for the EXACT SAME HYDRO! So no, the US isn't paying us you mathematically challenged doofus, WE are subsidizing THEIR use of OUR hydro.
And that there is another reason rates are so high in Ontario. On any given day, 2/3 of Ontario's power generation is exported (or dumped). That means the approximately 5 million households in Ontario are subsidizing the power consumption of around 10 million households outside of Ontario.
But hey, I'm sure you're thrilled with the fact that we're providing parts of Trumpland with cheaper power then we provide for ourselves.
Now here's where it gets really f*cked. I'll even use a source that you won't have a problem with, The Solar Power Network. According to them, the total electricity rate in Ontario is 15.8 cents/kWH. Of that, 3.9 cents/kWH is subsidies.
Now think about that for a moment. The average subsidy across all energy producers in Ontario is 3.9 cents/kWH, yet the export rate is only 2.8 cents/kWH.
Now, I realize that math definitely isn't your strong suit, but even you should be able to figure out what's wrong with that picture.

Oh, I know that ... but it will be out of sight so it doesn't matter.

Gotta think Liberal Logic
Right. Silly me :lol:
 

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Are they going to shut down Fording and other mines in B.C. and Alberta ? If not we aren't really getting off coal are we .
The coal Barons should be laughing all the way to the bank,the average Joe who feeds his family could be the most effected,
Don't know much on the manufacturing end of coal as a raw product
Coal Barons can make a difference on emission controls

Global emission impact