The Future of mankind on Earth

[eanassir]

Why would such a god need to worry about others if it was the most powerful?

God is the Most Powerful and He is the Most Gracious and the Most Merciful; He wants to show mercy to them, but - because of their wrongdoing - they choose His wrath and punishment; so He created them to show them His mercy if they work righteously and be just to each other.

God will not leave them be: the wrong-doer like the good-doer and the believer like the disbeliever and the thanks-giver like the ungrateful.

So that the oppressor will wrong others, and then God does not react and will it be the same to Him?

Yes, He is the Most Forgiving but when man returns to his Lord and asks His forgiveness.

But He is the Most Severe at punishment for the disbelievers and atheists and wrong-doers.

So what language did he write the Quran in if it wasn't Arabic?

Prophet Mohammed himself was illiterate: he did not know reading and writing Arabic even; but he heard the revelation from the angel and rehearsed it to people, and those who knew how to write: they wrote it down according to his instructions.

even the tales of people living very long lifespans don't reach back 4000 years. Methuselah was only 969 years old.

I didn't say 4000 or more or less; Dexter said this.
Although I think it may be more than 4000 years.
It may be Noah lived, since more than 4000-6000 years ago?
Jesus lived since 2000 years ago.
Moses before him, Abraham still before, and Noah was some long time before Abraham.

Well there were a whole lot of those disciples that didn't do their jobs then because some people weren't told about Allah until the 19th century and not everyone is convinced about this god in the first place. So if the god is all powerful, all wise, etc. it is also an abject failure as a propagandist and as a leader.

As I said before, the word Allah is the synonym of the word God and Yahweh and may be other names in other languages: names of the Creator.

The important thing is The First Commandment: that God is One without associate; anyone that denies this commandment will go to Hell, and anyone who believes in this commandment and practices it and does not wrong people will go to Paradise (on condition, he does not deny any prophet of God).

The Quran is revealed in Arabic, and all the ancient world knew about it and its teachings, then all peoples everywhere in the entire earth have their apostles and warners; so that none should die without knowing about this Commandment that God is One without associate; or else no judgment no recompense and no punishement can be justified.

And God revealed this to all nations and send in every nation and every city some men among them to warn them and teach them.

From glancing at your numerous posts, it's people like you who give religion a bad name. You're just one of a million religious zealots whose obnoxiousness and arrogance is as obvious as the nose on your face. Just the fact you continue to argue with a learned man like Dex just proves how shallow and immature you are. Grow up. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

JLM, from seeing all your posts, I see that you admire Dex :-( so your shallow thinking has been augmented with your imitating others like Dex without any reason; isn't it written in that book of atheism so it must be true, doesn't Dex say it then it must be scientific; it is so evident your shallow thinking like the canine teeth in your mouth :-(

And you shout bravo to Dex like all the ignorant without reason they imitate others and shout to them bravo :wav:

Blind Adoption [of Concepts and Opinions] Is Wrong​

 

[Cliffy]

The Quran is revealed in Arabic, and all the ancient world knew about it and its teachings, then all peoples everywhere in the entire earth have their apostles and warners; so that none should die without knowing about this Commandment that God is One without associate; or else no judgment no recompense and no punishement can be justified.

And God revealed this to all nations and send in every nation and every city some men among them to warn them and teach them.

The Bible was not brought to the Americas until the 1500s. The Quran, not until maybe the 1900s. Tell me then, how these people were supposed to know what you say they were supposed to know? If god sent a prophet to tell them the truth, then their religions must be true religions too. The aboriginal peoples from all over the Americas believed in a Creator; just one, so according to your logic, they didn't and still don't need the Quran or the Bible to tell them about god because they are already in right relationship with the Creator.

The Quran was given in Arabic to Arabic peoples. It is their book, their teaching. It was given in a manner that they could understand, the Hebrew people were given the word in a manner they could understand. It is therefore logical to assume that the various peoples of Africa, Asia and the Americas were given the word in a manner that they could understand. So no peoples outside of Arabic speaking countries need the Quran or the Bible to know their Creator because they already know their Creator. It would then stand to reason that your proselytizing of the Quran outside of Arabic countries is not only a waste of time but redundant.

 

[eanassir]

The Bible was not brought to the Americas until the 1500s. The Quran, not until maybe the 1900s. Tell me then, how these people were supposed to know what you say they were supposed to know? If god sent a prophet to tell them the truth, then their religions must be true religions too.

All people in the entire world know God the Creator, but may call Him in other names according to their languages.

But most of them assign associates to God, and in this way they contradict the First Commandment and they need then an apostle to acquaint them and correct their falsehood.

God sent to every nation and to every capital their apostle out of themselves speaking their language to warn them of this association with God.

The aboriginal peoples from all over the Americas believed in a Creator; just one, so according to your logic, they didn't and still don't need the Quran or the Bible to tell them about god because they are already in right relationship with the Creator.

The apostles to these peoples are local to their people, and those who followed them will follow God at their time.
But the Bible and the Quran is superior to such teachings.
The Quran and its interpretation has to be followed now, because it has the correct and the most recent instructions to all humanity.

As in the Quran 25: 1

تَبَارَكَ الَّذِي نَزَّلَ الْفُرْقَانَ عَلَى عَبْدِهِ لِيَكُونَ لِلْعَالَمِينَ نَذِيرًا​

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The explanation:
( Blessed be [the glory of] Him Who has sent down the 'Furqan' [: the sundry or sporadic revelations of the Quran] onto His servant [: Mohammed] that he may become a warner to [all] the worlds.)

The Quran was given in Arabic to Arabic peoples. It is their book, their teaching. It was given in a manner that they could understand, the Hebrew people were given the word in a manner they could understand. It is therefore logical to assume that the various peoples of Africa, Asia and the Americas were given the word in a manner that they could understand.

So no peoples outside of Arabic speaking countries need the Quran or the Bible to know their Creator because they already know their Creator.

Prophet Mohammed was sent to his people the Arab and was given the Quran in Arabic so that they may understand what God wants to tell them.
At the start, the message was to his near kindred, his tribe, then to the city of Mecca, then to all Arabia then to the entire world as a whole.

As God said in the Quran 21: 107

وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَاكَ إِلَّا رَحْمَةً لِّلْعَالَمِينَ​

The explanation:
(We sent you not [Mohammed], but as a mercy for all creatures [or to all nations.])

yes, it is true that all people know God the Creator, but the most of them ascribe associates or equals to Him because of their enthusiasm about their prophets and religious men.

The instructions and details in the Quran are superior to all other past revelations, and now all poeple everywhere in the whole world have to believe in the Quran and practice it in addition to their belief in the Commandments of God particularly the First and the most important commandment that God is One without associate or equal.

 

[Cliffy]

]The instructions and details in the Quran are superior to all other past revelations, and now all poeple everywhere in the whole world have to believe in the Quran and practice it in addition to their belief in the Commandments of God particularly the First and the most important commandment that God is One without associate or equal.[/SIZE][/FONT]

All your rantings about the Quran and your belief in are based on ignorance of all other religions. I have studied religions from around the world and, in particular, the revelations to the peoples of the Americas were ongoing and continue to this day. These people have survived tens of thousands of years without books because their connection to their creator is a very dynamic one. There are no priesthoods or Imams to tell them how to think or behave, they take their guidance directly from the source, so they don't need books or priesthoods. Books and religions take away our faith and personal connection to the Creator and replace it with dogma and beliefs. Religion is the antithesis of faith. But you go ahead and believe what you want. In the end, you will not be judged by how you adhered to an ancient book, you will be judged by how you lived your life.

 

[JLM]

JLM, from seeing all your posts, I see that you admire Dex :-( so your shallow thinking has been augmented with your imitating others like Dex without any reason; isn't it written in that book of atheism so it must be true, doesn't Dex say it then it must be scientific; it is so evident your shallow thinking like the canine teeth in your mouth :-(

And you shout bravo to Dex like all the ignorant without reason they imitate others and shout to them bravo :wav:

Blind Adoption [of Concepts and Opinions] Is Wrong​

If there was such an award I'd nominate you to win it for the ability to speak much and say little..........................:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[eanassir]

All your rantings about the Quran and your belief in are based on ignorance of all other religions. I have studied religions from around the world and, in particular, the revelations to the peoples of the Americas were ongoing and continue to this day. These people have survived tens of thousands of years without books because their connection to their creator is a very dynamic one. There are no priesthoods or Imams to tell them how to think or behave, they take their guidance directly from the source, so they don't need books or priesthoods. Books and religions take away our faith and personal connection to the Creator and replace it with dogma and beliefs. Religion is the antithesis of faith. But you go ahead and believe what you want. In the end, you will not be judged by how you adhered to an ancient book, you will be judged by how you lived your life.

Are you stinged by the Quran? In other words: Does the Quran sting you? Man has to consider the Glorious Quran before saying such words.

 

[Cliffy]

Are you stinged by the Quran? In other words: Does the Quran sting you? Man has to consider the Glorious Quran before saying such words.

Man does not need the Quran or the Bible to be a good person. I have read enough of your posts to know the Quran holds no meaning to me. I get my inspiration from life, from people who live what they believe and are not beholding to anyone or any book. As Jesus is supposed to have said, "the kingdom of god is within". I take that to mean that I am my own authority. I don't need books to tell me that, they just affirm what I already know. I have no use for jealous and vengeful gods who demand subjugation to their will. That to me is a sure sign of a demon.

 

[AnnaG]

This is not the correct way of thinking and arguing.
First you assert something and say like some people: this is my faith.
Second: you say 30 years of reading and thinking ... you are wrong from the first step of the problem so all your deduction is wrong and went in the wrong direction.
And again you returned to your assertions.

God is the truth, and the atheism is the falsehood whatever you assert or say you cannot change the truth. God is the Creator, and your claim of the biological evolution is wrong which you will admit later on may be when time is over.

roflmao And there actually is a little wee guy with no body, just a head, wearing a Roman centurion's helmet, attached to his legs. He's named Marvin on Mars and he has a dog by the name of K9 and horses have feathers, pigs can fly, and chicken have teeth.

All your rantings about the Quran and your belief in are based on ignorance of all other religions. I have studied religions from around the world and, in particular, the revelations to the peoples of the Americas were ongoing and continue to this day. These people have survived tens of thousands of years without books because their connection to their creator is a very dynamic one. There are no priesthoods or Imams to tell them how to think or behave, they take their guidance directly from the source, so they don't need books or priesthoods. Books and religions take away our faith and personal connection to the Creator and replace it with dogma and beliefs. Religion is the antithesis of faith. But you go ahead and believe what you want. In the end, you will not be judged by how you adhered to an ancient book, you will be judged by how you lived your life.

Yup.

Are you stinged by the Quran? In other words: Does the Quran sting you? Man has to consider the Glorious Quran before saying such words.

Maybe one man, but not all. Certainly not women either.

 

[eanassir]

These are the words of a man that is undependable on God:

Man does not need the Quran or the Bible to be a good person.

So if you resort to the Quran and the Bible, you will be a bad person?

I have read enough of your posts to know the Quran holds no meaning to me.

To you may be, but to believers it is precious. As in the Quran 17: 82

وَنُنَزِّلُ مِنَ الْقُرْآنِ مَا هُوَ شِفَاء وَرَحْمَةٌ لِّلْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَلاَ يَزِيدُ الظَّالِمِينَ إَلاَّ خَسَارًا​

The explanation:
(And We reveal of the Quran that which is a healing and a mercy for believers, but wrong-doers it only increases their loss.)

I get my inspiration from life, from people who live what they believe and are not beholding to anyone or any book.

Here I remember the words of Prophet David in the Psalm11:
“2-Save me, O lord, for there is now no saint: truths are decayed among the children of men.
3-They have spoken vain things everyone to his neighbor, with deceitful lips and with a double heart have they spoken.
4-May the Lord destroy all deceitful lips, and the tongue that speaks, proud things.
5-Who have said: We will magnify our tongue: our lips are our own. Who is Lord over us?”

The Dispraise of Jews in the Psalms

As Jesus is supposed to have said, "the kingdom of god is within". I take that to mean that I am my own authority. I don't need books to tell me that, they just affirm what I already know.

But Jesus said to people to respect the Torah (which is included in the Old Testament); and said to them: I have not come to contradict the Law of Moses.

I have no use for jealous and vengeful gods who demand subjugation to their will. That to me is a sure sign of a demon.

The Jealous God​

The Jealous God here: most people did not understand the implication of this word because of the translation.

It is like the Jealous husband who sees his wife betray him with another man; will he agree or smile to the betrayers and the adulterers or kill them at once, or at least divorce his wife;
Israel Is Divorced

so this is the example: God is Jealous and does not agree that man betrays him by associating other gods and idols with him, eventhough such associates whom they associate with Him are His prophets or angels.

He punishes the idolaters and associaters in this world by setting their enemy on them like Nabuchodonosor on the Israelites in the past, and like the Americans on the Iraqis in the present time.

Moreover, He imprisons the idolaters and associaters in Hell for ever in the afterlife.

The Vengeful God​

God is Almighty, and He is All-Aware about His enemy who revile Him and antagonise Him; He is Most Able over them and they are in His capture, but He gives them respite; because He is not weak and they cannot escape from His might;

therefore, He mocks them and gives them more wealth so they will increase in their arrogance and tyrany, then when their appointment will come His vengeance will be terrible,

and He will not deal with either of disbelievers and believers in the same manner. This is His Justice, and we ask His pardon and forgiveness.

As God said in the Quran 14: 42

وَلاَ تَحْسَبَنَّ اللّهَ غَافِلاً عَمَّا يَعْمَلُ الظَّالِمُونَ إِنَّمَا يُؤَخِّرُهُمْ لِيَوْمٍ تَشْخَصُ فِيهِ الأَبْصَارُ​

The explanation:
(Think not that God is unaware of wrong-doers. He only gives them respite till a day [of their death] when eyes will fixedly stare forwards.

Being submissive and listening [to the words of the angel of death], stooping their heads [looking down to the ground.] Their eyelids blinking not, and their hearts being void.


But [O Mohammed] warn people of the day when the chastisement comes on them,

>> and those who do wrong will say: "Our Lord, defer us to a near appointment, and we will comply to Your call and obey the messengers."


>> [The angels will say:] "Didn't you swear before that you would never abandon [your idolatry]?"

"And [didn't you] reside at the dwellings of those [before you] who wronged themselves, though it was evident to you how We had dealt with them, and We expounded the example for you?")


www.quran-ayat.com

 

[AnnaG]

These are the words of a man that is undependable on God:


So if you resort to the Quran and the Bible, you will be a bad person?

Not necessarily. All he said was that the Bible and the Quran are not needed for someone to be a good person. That does not mean he's saying that those who do are bad.

To you may be, but to believers it is precious.

So? I happen to think Dodge Dakota is precious. That doesn't mean everyone else does or has to consider it precious.

Here I remember the words of Prophet David in the Psalm11:
“2-Save me, O lord, for there is now no saint: truths are decayed among the children of men.
3-They have spoken vain things everyone to his neighbor, with deceitful lips and with a double heart have they spoken.
4-May the Lord destroy all deceitful lips, and the tongue that speaks, proud things.
5-Who have said: We will magnify our tongue: our lips are our own. Who is Lord over us?”

The Dispraise of Jews in the Psalms

So?

But Jesus said to people to respect the Torah (which is included in the Old Testament); and said to them: I have not come to contradict the Law of Moses.

The Jealous God​

The Jealous God here: most people did not understand the implication of this word because of the translation.

It is like the Jealous husband who sees his wife betray him with another man; will he agree or smile to the betrayers and the adulterers or kill them at once, or at least divorce his wife;
Israel Is Divorced

so this is the example: God is Jealous and does not agree that man betrays him by associating other gods and idols with him, eventhough such associates whom they associate with Him are His prophets or angels.

He punishes the idolaters and associaters in this world by setting their enemy on them like Nabuchodonosor on the Israelites in the past, and like the Americans on the Iraqis in the present time.

Moreover, He imprisons the idolaters and associaters in Hell for ever in the afterlife.

Instead of fixing them like a reasonable god would, let's make them faulty and then punish them for being faulty.
Merciful? That's a laugh.

The Vengeful God​

God is Almighty, and He is All-Aware about His enemy who revile Him and antagonise Him; He is Most Able over them and they are in His capture, but He gives them respite; because He is not weak and they cannot escape from His might; so He mocks them and gives them more wealth so they will increase in their arrogance and tyrany, then when their appointment will come His vengeance will be terrible, and He will not deal with disbelievers and believers in the same manner. This is His Justice, and we ask His pardon and forgiveness.

As God said in the Quran 14: 42

وَلاَ تَحْسَبَنَّ اللّهَ غَافِلاً عَمَّا يَعْمَلُ الظَّالِمُونَ إِنَّمَا يُؤَخِّرُهُمْ لِيَوْمٍ تَشْخَصُ فِيهِ الأَبْصَارُ​

The explanation:
(Think not that God is unaware of wrong-doers. He only gives them respite till a day [of their death] when eyes will fixedly stare forwards.

Being submissive and listening [to the words of the angel of death], stooping their heads [looking down to the ground.] Their eyelids blinking not, and their hearts being void.

But [O Mohammed] warn people of the day when the chastisement comes on them,

and those who do wrong will say: "Our Lord, defer us to a near appointment, and we will comply to Your call and obey the messengers."

[The angels will say:] "Didn't you swear before that you would never abandon [your idolatry]?"

"And [didn't you] reside at the dwellings of those [before you] who wronged themselves, though it was evident to you how We had dealt with them, and We expounded the example for you?")

www.quran-ayat.com

Yeah, that's what is written alright. But so what? It is an empty claim.

Basically what it says is that this god says,

Do as I say, not as I do or I will punish you for it.

haha The jokes on you because I'll punish you anyway whether you do as I say or not.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

... you say 30 years of reading and thinking ... you are wrong from the first step of the problem so all your deduction is wrong and went in the wrong direction. And again you returned to your assertions.

Evidently you don't remember things that don't suit your prejudices. I started out from a position of belief, I grew up in a deeply religious household, and it took a great deal of effort to get free of it and learn to do my own thinking. I've made that point before in discussions with you. I am apostate, for which your so-called 'religion of peace' led by the merciful and compassionate Allah prescribes death. It can hardly be a surprise that I'm scornful of it.

... your claim of the biological evolution is wrong ...

And no doubt you can prove that by citing a silly book written by ignorant people who thought the earth is flat and the sun goes around it.

 

[Scott Free]

The Future of mankind on Earth



This will take place about less than 1000 years from now, when the Earth will stop its axial rotation.​

At that time, the most evil people will be living: wrong-doers, atheists, idolaters, associaters and the profligate.

Prophet Mohammed [sic] said: "The hour of Doom will not come but only on the most evil of created beings."

It means that generation will be the worst among all generations.

The situation will be like the situation now on Planet Venus.​

I'm confused.... does this mean the world will be full of bad muslums or that Muhammad knows he's a failure?
​

 

[eanassir]

All he said was that the Bible and the Quran are not needed for someone to be a good person. That does not mean he's saying that those who do are bad.

Each party claim they are the good ones, and in Hell the disbelievers will exclaim as in the Quran 38: 62-64

وَقَالُوا مَا لَنَا لَا نَرَى رِجَالًا كُنَّا نَعُدُّهُم مِّنَ الْأَشْرَارِ . أَتَّخَذْنَاهُمْ سِخْرِيًّا أَمْ زَاغَتْ عَنْهُمُ الْأَبْصَارُ . إِنَّ ذَلِكَ لَحَقٌّ تَخَاصُمُ أَهْلِ النَّارِ​

The explanation:
([The followers, while being in the fire, will] say: "How is it with us, that we [now] do not see men that we [in the World] considered among the wicked?"

"Have we subjected them to our service [in the World], or have our eye-sights missed them!?"

Surely it is true that the people of the fire will quarrel.)​

Instead of fixing them like a reasonable god would, let's make them faulty and then punish them for being faulty.

We discussed this many times before.
They have the free choice to choose, and God sends them the apostles to be an argument against them, lest they should say: Why didn't You, Lord, send us an apostle we then might have believed.

So God will guide those worthy of guidance: the modest, the generous, the kind-hearted; but He will misguide those worthy of misguidance: the wrong-doers, the transgressors, the hard-hearted which they acquired by themselves by their bad manner and conduct: they accompanied the evil-doers and became like them.

If He guides them obligatorily, they will then be without the free choice like the bee work by the instinct not by reason.

Merciful?

Every mercy and kindness is derived from His kindness and is because of His mercy; every maternal emotion toward the baby is because of His mercy which He inserted in the heart of the mother.
Every love between the husband and wife is because He made this affection between the husband and wife, so that each will sympathize with the other and the family will be formed.

All he said was that the Bible and the Quran are not needed for someone to be a good person. That does not mean he's saying that those who do are bad.

Each party claim they are the good ones, and in Hell the disbelievers will exclaim as in the Quran 38: 62-64

وَقَالُوا مَا لَنَا لَا نَرَى رِجَالًا كُنَّا نَعُدُّهُم مِّنَ الْأَشْرَارِ . أَتَّخَذْنَاهُمْ سِخْرِيًّا أَمْ زَاغَتْ عَنْهُمُ الْأَبْصَارُ . إِنَّ ذَلِكَ لَحَقٌّ تَخَاصُمُ أَهْلِ النَّارِ​

The explanation:
([The followers, while being in the fire, will] say: "How is it with us, that we [now] do not see men that we [in the World] considered among the wicked?"

"Have we subjected them to our service [in the World], or have our eye-sights missed them!?"

Surely it is true that the people of the fire will quarrel.)​

Instead of fixing them like a reasonable god would, let's make them faulty and then punish them for being faulty.

We discussed this many times before.
They have the free choice to choose, and God sends them the apostles to be an argument against them, lest they should say: Why didn't You, Lord, send us an apostle we then might have believed.

So God will guide those worthy of guidance: the modest, the generous, the kind-hearted; but He will misguide those worthy of misguidance: the wrong-doers, the transgressors, the hard-hearted which they acquired by themselves by their bad manner and conduct: they accompanied the evil-doers and became like them.

If He guides them obligatorily, they will then be without the free choice like the bee work by the instinct not by reason.

Merciful?

Every mercy and kindness is derived from His kindness and is because of His mercy;
every maternal emotion toward the baby is because of His mercy which He inserted in the heart of the mother.

Every love between the husband and wife is because He made this affection between the husband and wife, so that each will sympathize with the other and the family will be formed.

The Indication of Creating the Male and Female​

 

[Cliffy]

Don't you ever get tired of this.

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[AnnaG]

Each party claim they are the good ones, and in Hell the disbelievers will exclaim as in the Quran 38: 62-64

وَقَالُوا مَا لَنَا لَا نَرَى رِجَالًا كُنَّا نَعُدُّهُم مِّنَ الْأَشْرَارِ .أَتَّخَذْنَاهُمْ سِخْرِيًّا أَمْ زَاغَتْ عَنْهُمُ الْأَبْصَارُ . إِنَّ ذَلِكَ لَحَقٌّ تَخَاصُمُ أَهْلِ النَّارِ​

The explanation:
([The followers, while being in the fire, will] say: "How is it with us, that we [now] do not see men that we [in the World] considered among the wicked?"

"Have we subjected them to our service [in the World], or have our eye-sights missed them!?"

Surely it is true that the people of the fire will quarrel.)​

What does that have to do with atheists, agnostics, Shintoists, Buddhists, etc. being good people?
​

We discussed this many times before.
They have the free choice to choose, and God sends them the apostles to be an argument against them, lest they should say: Why didn't You, Lord, send us an apostle we then might have believed.

So God will guide those worthy of guidance: the modest, the generous, the kind-hearted; but He will misguide those worthy of misguidance: the wrong-doers, the transgressors, the hard-hearted which they acquired by themselves by their bad manner and conduct: they accompanied the evil-doers and became like them.

If He guides them obligatorily, they will then be without the free choice like the bee work by the instinct not by reason.

So what? They can have free will concerning other things. I would have thought it'd be the idea to make sure that all people are good. It's stupid to make a car so that the steering won't work properly, and then blame the steering for not working.

Every mercy and kindness is derived from His kindness and is because of His mercy; every maternal emotion toward the baby is because of His mercy which He inserted in the heart of the mother.
Every love between the husband and wife is because He made this affection between the husband and wife, so that each will sympathize with the other and the family will be formed.

So what? All that means is that every meanness and jealousy is derived from this god's meanness and jealousy, too.

 

[YukonJack]

eanassir, the future of EVEN atheists is a Hell of a lot brighter than that of Muslims.

In this world or the next.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

It is true that the gravity will not be enough, but at the start it may not be to this extent. Anyhow, some people at that time may migrate to Mars to have some better circumstances; but I don't think that all of them will be able to do so.

Migrate to Mars? Whatever gave you the idea that Mars is conducive to life? The atmosphere on mars is comparable to the best vacuum we can create here on earth, and it contains very little oxygen.

If anybody is hoping to survive on Mars, they may as well stay on earth, their chance fo survival will be no worse.

Any retained gravity of Moon or such objects may be because of the Sun rays and Sun heat reaching Moon and such other objects. While comets have some gravity which keep their tails of gases; such gravity is because comets are hot fire objects, not icy and frozen.

It is clear to me that you don’t have scientific background, eanassir. Gravity has nothing to do with rotation; gravity has to do with mass. Thus Venus rotates very slowly, yet it has a think atmosphere, 100 times as heavy as that of earth.

Mars rotates at about the same speed as earth, yet Mars has very little atmosphere.

 

[eanassir]

eanassir, the future of EVEN atheists is a Hell of a lot brighter than that of Muslims.

In this world or the next.

Wrong, which are only your wishes, that you will discover to be wrong.

At your death,

and if your claim is true that the next world will be better for you, then long for death yourself, so that you will go to your good life in the next world.

As in the Quran 2: 94-96
قُلْ إِن كَانَتْ لَكُمُ الدَّارُ الآَخِرَةُ عِندَ اللّهِ خَالِصَةً مِّن دُونِ النَّاسِ فَتَمَنَّوُاْ الْمَوْتَ إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ
وَلَن يَتَمَنَّوْهُ أَبَدًا بِمَا قَدَّمَتْ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَاللّهُ عَلِيمٌ بِالظَّالِمينَ
وَلَتَجِدَنَّهُمْ أَحْرَصَ النَّاسِ عَلَى حَيَاةٍ وَمِنَ الَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُواْ يَوَدُّ أَحَدُهُمْ لَوْ يُعَمَّرُ أَلْفَ سَنَةٍ وَمَا هُوَ بِمُزَحْزِحِهِ مِنَ الْعَذَابِ أَن يُعَمَّرَ وَاللّهُ بَصِيرٌ بِمَا يَعْمَلُونَ

The explanation:
(Say [Mohammed to these Jews]: 'If the abode of the afterlife], in the neighborhood of God, be special for you [Jews] but not for the [rest of] people [who are Muslims],​

then long for death [to go to Paradise and prosper there] if you are truthful [in your claim.]​

But they will never long for death, on account of the [sins] which their hands have forwarded. And God is Well-Acquainted with the wrong-doers.​

You will find them the greediest of [all] people [of the heavenly religions] for life; and [even greedier] than those who associate [others with God]; one of them would fain live for a thousand years, - but he will not be turned forcibly away from punishment by being let live, for God is All-Seeing what they do.)​

The Dispraise of Jews in the Quran

Evidently you don't remember things that don't suit your prejudices. I started out from a position of belief, I grew up in a deeply religious household, and it took a great deal of effort to get free of it and learn to do my own thinking. I've made that point before in discussions with you. I am apostate, for which your so-called 'religion of peace' led by the merciful and compassionate Allah prescribes death. It can hardly be a surprise that I'm scornful of it. And no doubt you can prove that by citing a silly book written by ignorant people who thought the earth is flat and the sun goes around it.

Many people believe and others disbelieve, and many of them leave this or that religion, many atheists believe, and many believers apostatise, and not every religion is the religion of God: most religions are the religion of idolatry and associating others with God; so leaving your religion will make you no hero particularly if you become atheist.

Moreover, I told you many times and you refuse but to insist on this: " the earth is flat and the sun goes around it" which is not in the Quran, but only some rigid-thinking people said it.

The earth is spherical and it circles around the sun.

The day and night
- [ A miracle of the Quran: the authentic word of God]​

I'm confused.... does this mean the world will be full of bad muslums or that Muhammad knows he's a failure?
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Certainly you are confused.

The earth will be full of atheists, disbelievers, hypocrites, criminals, sinners and the deniers of God and His apostles.
Whether such evil generation belong to Muslims or others like Jews and Christians.

Mohammed is not any failure.
As God said to him in the Quran 17: 79

وَمِنَ اللَّيْلِ فَتَهَجَّدْ بِهِ نَافِلَةً لَّكَ عَسَى أَن يَبْعَثَكَ رَبُّكَ مَقَامًا مَّحْمُودًا​

The explanation:
(And as for the night, keep vigil a part of it, as an additional service for you [Mohammed]; it may be that your Lord will appoint you in the afterlife into a laudable position.)​

In The Last Days
See Third prophecy.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

The earth is spherical and it circles around the sun.

I know, and so do you, but the people who wrote the Quran didn't.

21:33 And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit.

35:13 He maketh the night to pass into the day and He maketh the day to pass into the night. He hath subdued the sun and moon to service. Each runneth unto an appointed term.

36:40 It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.

Those pretty clearly imply that the sun orbits the earth, and the Quran contains several other similar statements, plus a lot of references to Allah spreading out the earth, which clearly implies that it's flat. And on a related matter, there's this one:

54:1 The hour drew nigh and the moon was rent in twain.

You've said, contrary to what another of your fellow Muslims has claimed, that that wouldn't happen except as an immediate portent of Doomsday. That clearly says it happened a long time ago.

 

[eanassir]

Migrate to Mars? Whatever gave you the idea that Mars is conducive to life? The atmosphere on mars is comparable to the best vacuum we can create here on earth, and it contains very little oxygen.

If anybody is hoping to survive on Mars, they may as well stay on earth, their chance fo survival will be no worse.

It is clear to me that you don’t have scientific background, eanassir. Gravity has nothing to do with rotation; gravity has to do with mass. Thus Venus rotates very slowly, yet it has a think atmosphere, 100 times as heavy as that of earth.

Mars rotates at about the same speed as earth, yet Mars has very little atmosphere.

The information and knowledge that you have about Mars and Venus is defective and wrong, and the problem is that you don't want to have any correction

The journey to Venus is dangerous
The journey to Mars is successful
The emigration to Mars​

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I know, and so do you, but the people who wrote the Quran didn't.

21:33 And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit.

35:13 He maketh the night to pass into the day and He maketh the day to pass into the night. He hath subdued the sun and moon to service. Each runneth unto an appointed term.

36:40 It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.

Those pretty clearly imply that the sun orbits the earth

Where is it in these ayat that the sun orbits the earth?

The day and night
- [ A miracle of the Quran: the authentic word of God ]
​