Haven't noticed one lately, but there are unusual stories out there, but I notice those
people also have a 'brown' bag clutched in their hand, and a little stagger going on.;-)
The earthquakes that follow the total solar eclipse.
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Haven't noticed one lately, but there are unusual stories out there, but I notice those
people also have a 'brown' bag clutched in their hand, and a little stagger going on.;-)
True. We followed Katrina for a week before it hit New Orleans. 1000 years ago I suspect it would've been blamed on Zeus avenging something that happened the day before.
Man is the same in the present, as is he in the past. His needs are the same. His ways are almost similar.
In the past he used horses and other animals for transport and traveling; now he is using cars and aeroplanes. The food he eats is similar, as are his drink, furniture and dwelling.
Therefore, man having the car and aeroplanes now, and becoming glad with such a little scientific achievement, which God enabled him to attain – then will he reject his God the Creator according to his relatively little knowledge?
God may enable him to know more, but according to his denial and ingratitude, his knowledge has become restricted. If he shows gratitude to his Lord, He will give him a tremendous amount of science and knowledge.
Example:
The discovery of the penicillin was a great favor of God to people to cure many fatal diseases.
The discoverer [I saw this in a demonstrative film] – as if he became alert to the fungus that settled in the dish of the medium culture of bacteria – then the idea came to him, as if inspired about it, and he returned to see and examine that incident to extract the penicillin which is more important than a large number of other discoveries.
So it is God that acquaints man in various fields of knowledge, by the way of inspiring man the science and knowledge to let him achieve his blessed ambition in exploring the unknown fields of nature and universe.
This is in the Quran 40: 83
In the past he used horses and other animals for transport and traveling; now he is using cars and aeroplanes. The food he eats is similar, as are his drink, furniture and dwelling.
Therefore, man having the car and aeroplanes now, and becoming glad with such a little scientific achievement, which God enabled him to attain – then will he reject his God the Creator according to his relatively little knowledge?
God may enable him to know more, but according to his denial and ingratitude, his knowledge has become restricted. If he shows gratitude to his Lord, He will give him a tremendous amount of science and knowledge.
Example:
The discovery of the penicillin was a great favor of God to people to cure many fatal diseases.
The discoverer [I saw this in a demonstrative film] – as if he became alert to the fungus that settled in the dish of the medium culture of bacteria – then the idea came to him, as if inspired about it, and he returned to see and examine that incident to extract the penicillin which is more important than a large number of other discoveries.
So it is God that acquaints man in various fields of knowledge, by the way of inspiring man the science and knowledge to let him achieve his blessed ambition in exploring the unknown fields of nature and universe.
This is in the Quran 40: 83
فَلَمَّا جَاءتْهُمْ رُسُلُهُم بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ فَرِحُوا بِمَا عِندَهُم مِّنَ الْعِلْمِ وَحَاقَ بِهِم مَّا كَانُوا بِهِ يَسْتَهْزِؤُون
The explanation:
(Then when their messengers [: apostles] came to them with the manifest [signs], they [denied them and] rejoiced in the knowledge that they had [concerning the disintegration of bodies after death], and [the punishment] – at which they mocked – overwhelmed them.)
(Then when their messengers [: apostles] came to them with the manifest [signs], they [denied them and] rejoiced in the knowledge that they had [concerning the disintegration of bodies after death], and [the punishment] – at which they mocked – overwhelmed them.)
Hey, I wonder what they were drinking when they wrote those old books, maybe it
was their 'brown wooden' container they were clutching, and a stagger going on.
Eanassir, what would those old fables have said about something like the Indonesian/Thailand tidal wave? It would have pointed to some guy who had an adulterous affair and claimed some God washed a pile of water over him and his people, or some other nutty speculation accepted as fact.
So basically your saying god wants us to believe in him before he'll give us any reason to believe him. And if we don't believe in him he'll even give us less reason. :-?
So god is mostly interested in unsophisticated boobs for followers? :-?
I don't mean to be unkind eanassir but that is in essence your argument. :angry3:
So god isn't interested in intellectual capacity. He made humans to be his pets - like a dog we're just supposed to believe anything some lunatic preaches at us without any proof. 8O
In actuality your saying we have to believe in god despite the proof given - as has been shown to you so many times the Qu'ran has very poor evidence of anything.
I just don't see why god would be so interested in having morons for followers? :-(
I think your being hosed eanassir.
You have used the Quran and Al-Hilly's interpretion of it to argue that the moon does not rotate, that comets and meteorites are preferentially attracted to certain temperature differentials, that Mars is inhabited by people and other large animals, that gravity is affected by heat and temperature, and a variety of other things. I don't see any point in cataloging them all. You have not been right yet, not even once, about a single scientific claim you've made based on arguments from and interpretations of the Quran.
The Total Solar Eclipse of 2006 March 29
The umbral path is shown in this map:
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEmono/TSE2006/TSE2006.html
The umbral path is shown in this map:
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEmono/TSE2006/TSE2006.html
Iran:
This T Solar E was followed by a strong earthquake in Iran, which saw a partial eclipse of the sun 2 days before this earthquake.
This T Solar E was followed by a strong earthquake in Iran, which saw a partial eclipse of the sun 2 days before this earthquake.
A strong earthquake occurred on March 31, 2006
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/eqinthenews/2006/uskyae/
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/eqinthenews/2006/uskyae/
It may be the TSE will augment the imminent earthquake and will precipitate it in the region liable to have such an earthquake.
See also about the earthquake at our link:
The earthquake and cleavage
"Earthquakes and volcanoes occur because of the gases present inside the Earth, under high pressure. These gases issue from the fire that burns inside the core of the Earth.
The earthquake and cleavage
"Earthquakes and volcanoes occur because of the gases present inside the Earth, under high pressure. These gases issue from the fire that burns inside the core of the Earth.
[The earthquake]:
The gases rush but cannot find an exit, so the Earth surface will tremble and quake, and the severity of this quaking is related to the degree of that pressure.
The gases rush but cannot find an exit, so the Earth surface will tremble and quake, and the severity of this quaking is related to the degree of that pressure.
[The volcano]:
But when there is much of the liquefied materials in the core of the Earth, they will try to get out, and when the crust of the Earth yields, then the volcano will erupt."
But when there is much of the liquefied materials in the core of the Earth, they will try to get out, and when the crust of the Earth yields, then the volcano will erupt."
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Allahu akbar on the atheist!
Glory be to God!
So this is your mixing and confusing, and you know it.
Here are the items that you said:
the moon does not rotate,
that comets and meteorites are preferentially attracted to certain temperature differentials,
that gravity is affected by heat and temperature,
To these there is nothing in the Quran stating by word that the moon does not rotate, that comets and meteorites are preferentiallyattracted to certain temperature differentials, that gravity is affected by heat and temperature;
while about "that Mars is inhabited by people and other large animals" the Quran points out that the planets include people, animals and plant.
The inspired interpreter of the Quran said in his book some important informations; and here is some explanation:
Glory be to God!
So this is your mixing and confusing, and you know it.
Here are the items that you said:
the moon does not rotate,
that comets and meteorites are preferentially attracted to certain temperature differentials,
that gravity is affected by heat and temperature,
To these there is nothing in the Quran stating by word that the moon does not rotate, that comets and meteorites are preferentiallyattracted to certain temperature differentials, that gravity is affected by heat and temperature;
while about "that Mars is inhabited by people and other large animals" the Quran points out that the planets include people, animals and plant.
The inspired interpreter of the Quran said in his book some important informations; and here is some explanation:
- "The moon does not rotate": it is a matter of imagination and expression; the moon keeps the same face towards the earth, and you say it is locked! and it rotates around itself in tha same period as it rotates around the earth!" While the interpreter said it does not rotate around itself.
- "That comets and meteorites are preferentially attracted to certain temperature differentials"
Comets prefer the cold and frozen parts of the earth, not the meteorites which may fall anywhere.
- "That gravity is affected by heat and temperature":
The interpreter said the gravity is caused by the heat of the object which in turn is caused by the movement of its internal particles.
- "that Mars is inhabited by people and other large animals"
With the exception of Mercury and Venus on which life has been exterminated) the planets including Mars are inhabited by people, animals: large and small, and plants, with some variations and similarities with the Earth alive beings – like how Australia animals and plants differ and like the other parts of the Earth.
In case you have a company or a factory, and you have many workers working for you in this factory – some of such workers carry out their duty perfectly and even do more than the average required; some others work with some average work mixing good with some neglect; while others are lazy and they neglect their duty – will you deal with them in the same reward and recompense?
If you do good to somebody, and you keep up giving him all his requirements, then he bites your hand that gave him the favor and surplus; will you deal with such a person in the same way as the one who is thankful, grateful to you and who acts according to your good pleasure, and greets you whenever he meets you, and shows you much respect, and always praises and glorifies your position?
Moreover, God is All-Clement, and He gives them respite that they may return to His obedience, the while He is All-Able over them, and they are in His capture. And He is Most Gracious in this World, and Generous and Open-handed: He offers to them a large number of bounties and a tremendous favor and surplus; He even gives to the disbeliever more and more, may be more than the believer.
To Him the World is so trivial so that He gives to His enemies more and more; had He given to disbelievers and atheists, the gold and silver, the large amount of money, the power and health, the position and authority, the high degrees in science and knowledge, the luxurious cars and villas, then all people would have disbelieved and all of them would have become atheists and denied their Creator.
As He said – be exalted – in the Quran 2: 15
اللّهُ يَسْتَهْزِئُ بِهِمْ وَيَمُدُّهُمْ فِي طُغْيَانِهِمْ يَعْمَهُونَ
The explanation:
(God [Himself] does mock them, offering them [wealth] to let them wander on blindly with their arrogance.)
(God [Himself] does mock them, offering them [wealth] to let them wander on blindly with their arrogance.)
And there is a prophetic tradition that "most of the people of Paradise are the poor"; and I asked Abu abd-Allah is this tradition true, he said: "Yes, because almost the poor supplicates God and asks of Him, while the rich will be independent and finds himself without need, so he will deny his Lord, and eat and drink but show no gratitude."
This is in the Quran 1: 1
بِسْمِ اللّهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيمِ
Bismilla hirrahma nirrahiem
Bismilla hirrahma nirrahiem
The explanation:
(In the name of God, Most Gracious*, Most Merciful**)
……………………………………………………………
*i.e. Merciful to both believers and disbelievers, in this life of the World.
(In the name of God, Most Gracious*, Most Merciful**)
……………………………………………………………
*i.e. Merciful to both believers and disbelievers, in this life of the World.
**i.e. Merciful –only –to believers, in the Hereafter.]
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Conduct current. That's better than passes. How much current do we need to pee I wonder?
Something I've been wondering about recently, but not enough to actually open books, is lightning. I assume that it goes up because of the +charge being much greater on the earth than it is in the clouds/atmosphere, I also assume that the discharge occurs when the atmospheric density reaches a certain -potential or (emptyness) to initiate the transfer. I also assume that the charge is generated by tectonic or plate mechanics. How does that work anyway?
The miracle of the prophet
When the apostle comes to his people, they will become two parties: some (being good-hearted and kind to the poor and the weak) will believe and others [being hard-hearted, rude and rough in dealing with orphans and widows) will not.
The matter of their guidance is up to God alone; He alone knows who deserves and will guide him to be happy in His Paradise, and who deserves to be misguided to be unlucky and suffer in Hell in the afterlife or the Hereafter.
The apostle will give them some miracles, to prove he is truthful; yet some of them will not believe, as have been just explained above.
Therefore, what is the benefit from the miracle, in case their guidance in up to God; so He will guide whomever He pleases with no need for the miracle; while the disbeliever will not believe whatever miracles may be done before him, but will say this is only some magic and trick.
Moreover, the miracle is dangerous and risky: in case they see the miracle and do not believe, they have to be exterminated.
E.g. the Children of Israel refused to fight in God's way, in spite of that they saw many miracles and the Red Sea was parted for them, and they passed while their enemy and the enemy of God was drowned before their eyes – so they perished in the wilderness.
The tribe of Thamood (their prophet Salih) gave them God's miracle: the she-camel; she gave milk to all the tribe; but even so they slaughtered it and distributed their meat among them – so they were exterminated by the earthquake.
And so on, but better than all this is to wrangle and dispute with them in a way better than theirs;
as in the Quran 16: 125
ادْعُ إِلِى سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَالْمَوْعِظَةِ الْحَسَنَةِ وَجَادِلْهُم بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَن ضَلَّ عَن سَبِيلِهِ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ
The explanation:
([O Mohammed] preach to the way of your Lord with wisdom and fair exhortation, and reason with them in better [ways and words than theirs],
for surely your Lord knows best anyone who [deserves misguidance so He will leave him be and he] errs from His way, and He knows best who may accept guidance [so He will guide him].)
eanassir
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com
([O Mohammed] preach to the way of your Lord with wisdom and fair exhortation, and reason with them in better [ways and words than theirs],
for surely your Lord knows best anyone who [deserves misguidance so He will leave him be and he] errs from His way, and He knows best who may accept guidance [so He will guide him].)
eanassir
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com
Nope. I never imagine alien math. I only observe and follow. If there are no new things, I invent one that suit the society and the purpose.
Steady State Universe and Big Bang
When scientists are talking about the big bang and the steady universe, they are making a void theory. In other words, scientists take a chunk from the complete structure. Then, the scientist use that chunk to explain everything. When the scientist are explaining the chunk, the scientist ignore other things. This chunk is often analyzed to the best of the society and scientists' abilities.
This case applies to the model or theory of the big bang. The scientists take a galaxy and make a theory. This theory analyze only one specific galaxy. This theory ignores everything else.
Most theories are made to fit the society's popularity and beliefs.
Time
I remember the time when people invented the sundial. Birds have a specific pattern of living. A group of hunters decide to hunt the birds. Birds relax the most near the waterfall. The sun is the highest and brightest and the birds fly near the waterfall.
People had trouble imagining the highest and brightest noon. One guy decide to relax and observe nature. He decide to mark the most obvious shadows with stones. The guy correctly predicted arrival of the highest and brightest sun.The guy tell the other hunters to leave the guys' home a bit earlier than the arrival of the brightest sun. The hunters follow the guy's advice. The hunters saw the arrival of the birds. The hunters had a very successful hunt.
One hunter asked the guy's invention. The guy decide to call his concept time. Each obvious shadow marks a specific sequence. The highest and brightest sun or shortest shadow is called "noon" or "12 o'clock". This eventually become very popular. Everyone decide to use this concept.
Time marks progress. Time help people to achieve success and predict movements.
Steady State Universe and Big Bang
When scientists are talking about the big bang and the steady universe, they are making a void theory. In other words, scientists take a chunk from the complete structure. Then, the scientist use that chunk to explain everything. When the scientist are explaining the chunk, the scientist ignore other things. This chunk is often analyzed to the best of the society and scientists' abilities.
This case applies to the model or theory of the big bang. The scientists take a galaxy and make a theory. This theory analyze only one specific galaxy. This theory ignores everything else.
Most theories are made to fit the society's popularity and beliefs.
Time
I remember the time when people invented the sundial. Birds have a specific pattern of living. A group of hunters decide to hunt the birds. Birds relax the most near the waterfall. The sun is the highest and brightest and the birds fly near the waterfall.
People had trouble imagining the highest and brightest noon. One guy decide to relax and observe nature. He decide to mark the most obvious shadows with stones. The guy correctly predicted arrival of the highest and brightest sun.The guy tell the other hunters to leave the guys' home a bit earlier than the arrival of the brightest sun. The hunters follow the guy's advice. The hunters saw the arrival of the birds. The hunters had a very successful hunt.
One hunter asked the guy's invention. The guy decide to call his concept time. Each obvious shadow marks a specific sequence. The highest and brightest sun or shortest shadow is called "noon" or "12 o'clock". This eventually become very popular. Everyone decide to use this concept.
Time marks progress. Time help people to achieve success and predict movements.
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I don't think people should believe the theories as "the complete and only truth". Most theories are made for people to "laugh, enjoy, and enlight oneself to reach a near but [stupid] way of truth." Please do not take the theories seriously. Please only remember the theories and remember the truth. When anyone ask a person about big bang, simply rehearse what most people say. When people ask about what you think, please simply tell the truth. When people ask about what your opinion is, please simply tell what you feel like.
Eventually the most popular and smart person will invent a theory to advance all parts of the society. Please relax.
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