The Discovery of Intelligent Beings on the Planets Will Refute the Enthusiasm.

eanassir

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look 3467,

The enthusiasm will mostly lead to error. We should love God more than anyone else.

Truly, I love Jesus Christ, as do I love Prophet Mohammed; but I love God more than all others. In fact I should love Jesus and Mohammed because they invited people exclusively to God alone.

The excessive love for some prophets and saints like Jesus, Abraham, Ali and all other persons including kings and religious leaders will make people fall in mistake, and lead them to the association with God: i.e. they will associate these men with the Creator in their servitude and their doctrines: they will believe that all good has come to them from the Christ and other prophets, and that by his blessing the universe and life is going on, when this is particularly special for God alone.

Then when they will have any grace of God, they will show gratitude – not to God That bestowed on them His grace – but to such as Jesus, Mary his mother, or Ali and his sons, and the daughter of Prophet Mohammed… etc.

There is a parable in Arabic that says: "If you love someone, you will see none of his defects; but if you dislike anyone, you will see all his defects."

So to be modest and love God more than everyone else is better; in this case Jesus will be pleased with you, as will God. You then will not be blamed by anyone for your loving God your Creator.

This enthusiasm comes from the suggestion of Satan:
At the beginning of the mission of the apostle, Satan tries to make the apostle himself leave his mission: he suggests to him by whispering that "You are only imagining things; this revelation is not true; your people will kill you, and so on …"

This is clearly stated in the Gospel in the trial of Jesus Christ by Satan: he said to him: throw yourself from a height… etc. Jesus passed this examination successfully. Prophet Mohammed also after the apostlehood was incumbent on him, he returned to his family disturbed and said to them: "Cover me with some blankets." Then another revelation was inspired to him: to arise and start warning his people against the idolatry. Another prophet may have failed: Jonah, who was engulfed and swallowed by the whale, then repented and was saved.

Then Satan starts to stir doubts in the mind of the prophet and his followers about his true mission, and that he may not be a prophet; but later on the faith of the prophet and the believers will be firm, and more people will embrace the new religion.

Then Satan will find another way: he tries to give them an extra push: by making them more enthusiastic about Jesus, Mohammed and in like manner of all other prophets. By doing so, he will mostly succeed because they started to love the prophet, so they will accept that he is extraordinary, he made miracles, that he is wonderful … etc.
The easiest way that Satan uses, is to find a religious man, and to suggest to him that he should make some innovations and forge many extra rites and enthusiastic ideas; and this will work and succeed.
By this way, the old idolatry, against which the apostle strived, will return back in some way or another; and people will start to worship the apostle himself and his family members: his mother or his daughter …etc.
Therefore, God will then send them another apostle or a reformer, to warn them against the idolatry, the enthusiasm and the association with God; because this enthusiasm and association will make them lose in the next world.
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eanassir

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El Barto,
The Owner of the heavens and the earth and all that is in the universe is God the Creator.
The idea that I say is that the inhabitants of the planets will know God their creator, but are unaware of our prophets; this indicates that Jesus, Moses, Mohammed and others are not essential constituents in the creation. They only are some of His creatures whom He created. I mean: no need to be enthusiastic about those servants of God.
On the other hand, the existence of people there on the planets who worship God the Creator, will refute the atheism; because they will find that it is the same God that has sent all the apostles to the inhabitants of the planets.

eanassir.
 

look3467

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Eanassir

The enthusiasm will mostly lead to error. We should love God more than anyone else.>>> Eanassir
With that thought in mind we honor God alone.

Let me explain; Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
A righteous branch and King that will execute judgment and justice in the earth: of whom is it spoken of?
What righteous King is a prophet, and what prophet executed judgment and meted out justice in all the earth?

Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Unto which of all the prophets was this verses given, as righteousness is the scepter of His kingdom.
Which of all the prophets have a Kingdom?

What I am saying here is that God was in Jesus redeeming the world back unto Himself.

Jesus, as God redeemed the world from death and has become to us the new name which our salvation rests, and that being the name of God.

I don’t wish to make an argument of this, because it really makes no difference at the end of us all, but it does make a difference now while we are still alive.

Pewace>>>AJ
 

El Barto

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As human beings we think we are right and have all the answers never question anything. Religion included. God is a concept invented by man, fuuny never really seen by man yet there are stories and thats all it is, stories. I rather live on a planet other than this one with the no religion. I bet they would have less or any ,bigitry, discrimination, sexist, dominance and wars.
Nah enough of this preaching I'm out of here.
 

look3467

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As human beings we think we are right and have all the answers never question anything. Religion included. God is a concept invented by man, fuuny never really seen by man yet there are stories and thats all it is, stories. I rather live on a planet other than this one with the no religion. I bet they would have less or any ,bigitry, discrimination, sexist, dominance and wars.
Nah enough of this preaching I'm out of here.

Wouldn't it be wonderful to find such a planet that would be a perfect environment to live in the flesh?
But then again, if we did, would there be anything to learn?

I mean after earth's experience, yes, we've learned what hate and love is, but not before we are placed in an environment to learn it.

Imagine, a baby born in an perfect environment, were there is absolutely no opposition to anything, what would that child learn?

Might as well take away its ability to choose, for there would be nothing to compare anything with.

Nah, the only reasons people want out is because they are already experiencing the pangs of hell and wish, want, and desire a better place to live, but forgetting that this hell is what gave them the desire in the first place.

Religion is a form of relief to those who would choose to live right, but then to others, a way to manipulate the system to their benefit.

Regardless, living on earth is not no easy trip, but a trip worth traveling through, for through it we learn that life could be better somewhere else.

Hang in there, Barto, when you leave this place, you will find it more glorious because you will see who it is that loves you and will recognize Him.

Peace>>>AJ
 

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The one that denies God and His religion; doesn't he know that he, sooner or later, will go to the next after-death world?
 

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The one that denies God and His religion; doesn't he know that he, sooner or later, will go to the next after-death world?

To go into the next world one has to first be redeemed from this one.
Of oneself, one can not redeem self no matter hard hard we try.
God only has to do the redeeming as He only is the one who placed us here in the first place and without power to redeem ourselves.
How did He do that?
Can you tell me?

Peace>>>AJ
 

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The way to be saved.

To go into the next world one has to first be redeemed from this one.
Of oneself, one can not redeem self no matter hard hard we try.
God only has to do the redeeming as He only is the one who placed us here in the first place and without power to redeem ourselves.
How did He do that?
Can you tell me?

Peace>>>AJ

Man may be saved if:
  • he believes in God as One without any associate.
  • believes in all the prophets and apostles of God, including Jesus and Mohammed, as the righteous servants of God with no enthusiasm about any prophet whether Prophet Jesus or others.
  • believe in all the heavenly books, including the Gospel and the Quran; the Quran came to confirm the Torah and the Gospel; the Quarn does not contradict the Torah or the Gospel.
  • To avoid contradicting the Ten Commandments of God, and to work as much righteous work as he can; like the prayer, and helping the poor and the weak but that should be for the sake of God alone.
So that he may prosper in the next life and succeeds in attining the goodpleasure of God and be admitted to Paradise in the kingdom of heavens, or else he will be a loser in the next world, even though he spends millions of dollars but not for the sake of God alone.

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Man may be saved if:
  • he believes in God as One without any associate.
  • believes in all the prophets and apostles of God, including Jesus and Mohammed, as the righteous servants of God with no enthusiasm about any prophet whether Prophet Jesus or others.
  • believe in all the heavenly books, including the Gospel and the Quran; the Quran came to confirm the Torah and the Gospel; the Quarn does not contradict the Torah or the Gospel.
  • To avoid contradicting the Ten Commandments of God, and to work as much righteous work as he can; like the prayer, and helping the poor and the weak but that should be for the sake of God alone.
So that he may prosper in the next life and succeeds in attaining the goodpleasure of God and be admitted to Paradise in the kingdom of heavens, or else he will be a loser in the next world, even though he spends millions of dollars but not for the sake of God alone.

eanassir.

Well, my friend eanassir, you can try all you want, and believe all you want, but unless God saves you, you don't have a prayer.
I don't have a prayer either, that is why I rest from all my works and rely on the works of Jesus, of which precisely, is why He became the sacrifice for me.

Now, contrary to what Jesus thought, you say hate the enemy if God hates Him, right, well, Jesus thought us to love our enemies and not kill them.
Jesus forgave His enemies who, betrayed Him, beat Him, whipped Him and nailed Him to the cross.

You suppose God hated them for doing that? If He did, then Jesus was all wrong!

I don't hate my enemies because Jesus by God said I should love them.

Now, either God is wrong, or the Quarn is right, which is it?

Peace>>>AJ
 

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Man will only be saved by the mercy of God.
Jesus and all the prophets cannot be saved unless by God's grace and mercy.
 
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Man will only be saved by the mercy of God.
Jesus and all the prophets cannot be saved unless by God's grace and mercy.

Jesus is suppossed to be the Son of God.
Thats the belief.
why call him a prophet?
some would look at that as insulting as those cartoons depicting your Prophet Mohhamed that got the muslim community in an uproar.
i would never Call your Prophet anything other than yuor Prophet....why call someone elses God anything less...
 

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Now, either God is wrong, or the Quarn is right, which is it?
False dichotomy, those aren't the only options. Maybe god is right and the Qu'ran is wrong. Maybe they're both wrong. Maybe there is no god. Maybe there is one but he isn't much interested in us. Maybe there are multiple gods, as most human civilizations have believed. Maybe everybody's wrong and the truth is something nobody's figured out yet. Maybe we're the only intelligent life forms in the cosmos; somebody has to be first. Maybe none of it matters because there is no absolute truth in any meaningful ontological sense. Religious dogmatism is blinding.
 

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Chances of being the first sentients in the universe(s)= 38000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000/1.


That's from my own classified work on the subject. And before anyone asks for the formula, no you can't have it before I publish. The work is almost finished, I'm thinking of a title, perhaps The Revised Beavertarian Bible, subtitled, A compendium of facts and formulae covering every concievable thing & bar tending.
 

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False dichotomy, those aren't the only options. Maybe god is right and the Qu'ran is wrong. Maybe they're both wrong. Maybe there is no god. Maybe there is one but he isn't much interested in us. Maybe there are multiple gods, as most human civilizations have believed. Maybe everybody's wrong and the truth is something nobody's figured out yet. Maybe we're the only intelligent life forms in the cosmos; somebody has to be first. Maybe none of it matters because there is no absolute truth in any meaningful ontological sense. Religious dogmatism is blinding.

The point you made Dexter is why the Son of God came for.
Mankind left to its own is what you just described, chaos, confusion and uncertainty.

My God, as given to me to understand, will out all that make something beautiful, something perfect. as He alone is able to do.

Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Taking that verse in reverse we see:
Gods Spirit moves upon, the face of the waters are the sea of people, who are born in darkness, void of any knowledge and without form, any structured belief.

Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

Two times God rests, 1st after the creation of the physical world and second, at the recreation of the Spiritual world done by God in Jesus, when Jesus rests just prior to the Sabbath in the tomb.

The Good News is that out of all that, God creates a perfect spiritual body by which all of mankind can now have excess to the heavens or in other words, into the presence of God, via the body of Jesus who taketh away the sins of the whole world, Atheist, Muslims, Christians and all supposed religions.
Can we now be brothers and sisters?

Peace>>>AJ
 
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False dichotomy, those aren't the only options. Maybe god is right and the Qu'ran is wrong. Maybe they're both wrong. Maybe there is no god. Maybe there is one but he isn't much interested in us. Maybe there are multiple gods, as most human civilizations have believed. Maybe everybody's wrong and the truth is something nobody's figured out yet. Maybe we're the only intelligent life forms in the cosmos; somebody has to be first. Maybe none of it matters because there is no absolute truth in any meaningful ontological sense. Religious dogmatism is blinding.

do you believe in the big bang theory?
If so...are we the first after an eternity of big bangs...
Is this life an anomoly only to be seen once?