The Coulter Challenge!!!

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It's not as if she doesn't give people enough ammo to throw back at her, now we have to attack her looks, her femininity and so on. That's kind of low.

LOL. She makes it easy.

Low blows are just plain stupid and an unfortunate off shoot of dumb humans. I happen to find her rather feminine and somewhat visually stimulating. Unfortunately I find her rather dead in the intellectually department. Or at least a bit too 1950's for me.
 

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What you look at me like that for? I ggogled Galloway and found a Jeff Galloway, George Galloway, Galloway, Scotland, Galloway cattle, etc.
Galloway - Google Search

Sometimes I feel like the only voice of reason in the room. Now being fully aware of who I am, I find that troubling...:lol:
Delusions of self-grandeur? lol

Ok, but you didn't attack his manhood, his appearance, and so on.

The commentary levied against Coulter is sexist and ignorant.
It happens. lol

I think she is an ignorant bitch, but to go to the lengths of insult as we have seen in two threads now, amazes me.

It's not as if she doesn't give people enough ammo to throw back at her, now we have to attack her looks, her femininity and so on. That's kind of low.
.... but sometimes funny.
 

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LOL. She makes it easy.

Low blows are just plain stupid and an unfortunate off shoot of dumb humans. I happen to find her rather feminine and somewhat visually stimulating. Unfortunately I find her rather dead in the intellectually department. Or at least a bit too 1950's for me.

She looks very much like my wife a few years ago.....except wifey has much better legs....I find her very attractive.

Except a little too abrasive.

As for brains, she has a bunch.........intellectually, I think she leaves the vast majority of her detractors in the dust.

Did you watch all five? the only thing I really had trouble with was her wishing McVeigh had blown up the NY Times.....and I understand she meant it would have been preferable.
 

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I'm watching, and so far I'm liking the ammunition she is giving me.

little hint for you coulter fans and supporters........ don't bother telling me not to attack americans for american administration actions. Coulter has given me the OK because she says they are one and the same. The american people voted for them, therefore.......... mind you she was talking about gw bush and Iraq.....I'm sure she would backtrack on the statement when it concerns a democrat administration rather than a republican one.

almost finished part 3
 

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I'm watching, and so far I'm liking the ammunition she is giving me.

little hint for you coulter fans and supporters........ don't bother telling me not to attack americans for american administration actions. Coulter has given me the OK because she says they are one and the same. The american people voted for them, therefore.......... mind you she was talking about gw bush and Iraq.....I'm sure she would backtrack on the statement when it concerns a democrat administration rather than a republican one.

almost finished part 3

I'm honing my wit....:)
 

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Bear, now I'm hurt........that you would even dream that I failed to insult Galloway in the most infantile manner possible!!!! The brain-dead, sycophantic, greasy, traitorous, terrorist-loving sack of ****.

Do you actually support free speech for everyone or just people who share your viewpoint?

Coulter should be allowed to speak free in Canada for the same reason Galloway should be allowed to speak freely in Canada. But Galloway was blocked from entering Canada. Coulter was not.

Anti-war MP George Galloway has been banned from Canada, it emerged today.
A Canadian spokesman confirmed that the Respect MP had been deemed inadmissible on national security grounds and would not be allowed into the country.


Galloway today branded the ban "idiotic" and vowed to fight the ruling with "all means" at his disposal. He is due to give a speech in Toronto on 30 March.


Earlier today the Sun said border security officials had declared Galloway, 54, "inadmissible" because of his views on Afghanistan and the presence of Canadian troops there and would be turned away if he attempted to enter the country....


...Jason Kenney, Canada's immigration minister, has the right to exempt people from the act if it is felt that their presence would not be "detrimental to the national interest"...


...Galloway is due to speak at a public forum entitled Resisting War from Gaza to Kandahar, hosted by the Toronto Coalition to Stop the War later this month.


He is also due to speak at a second public forum in Mississauga, west of Toronto, on 31 March.


His proposed visit prompted the Jewish Defence League of Canada to write an open letter to the country's government urging it to do "everything possible to keep this hater away"....


George Galloway banned from Canada | Politics | guardian.co.uk


Galloway in his own defense:
YouTube - Canada ban: Galloway faces his accusers a Jewish Defence League (JDL) "Terrorist"
 

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Do you actually support free speech for everyone or just people who share your viewpoint?

Coulter should be allowed to speak free in Canada for the same reason Galloway should be allowed to speak freely in Canada. But Galloway was blocked from entering Canada. Coulter was not.

And if the authorities had prevented Ann Coulter from entering the country, I would have supported their right to do so.........as we have every right to keep ANYONE not a Canadian citizen out. We don't need a reason, it is our house.

That said, Galloway is a supporter of our enemies, and an enemy of our friends. He is an active supporter of terrorist groups. Good enough reason to keep him out.

There was no reason to keep Coulter out.
 

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Here it is folks!

Ann Coulter interviewed by Michael Coren.

I challenge you, watch it, go to youtube for all 5 parts, then carefully consider whether this speech needs to be suppressed, fer God's sake.

I agree with about 95% of her points, if not more, and am embarassed that I did not defend her more enthusiastically before........

YouTube - Michael Coren with Ann Coulter - part 1

I've watched all five videos, and I was impressed. She seemed to bite her tongue more than she usually would. I tended to agree with her stance on abortion, along with her application of the logic of killing a fetus to the killing of an abortion doctor. I think though that when she applies such logic, she ought to be more explicit about her intentions, since I think that's what gets her into hot water. In that particular interview, she doesn't cover many topics, but does go into detail explaining more clearly what she means by this or that, and that definitely helps deflect unwarranted attacks against her. It's in the other interviews I've watched where she makes an outrageous comment and leaves it hanging, way too open to interpretation, though I've also noticed a few instances of theatrical outrage against her just to win some brownie points. But again, sometimes she makes herself vulnerable to such attacks by not explaining her stance more clearly.

On the comments with regards to converting them all to Christianity, she still doesn't make it clear what she intends. Does she mean the government should be involved? If so, what about the separation of church and state?And if not, then in what other contexts? Also, she shows considerable religious prejudice in assuming that somehow Christians will necessarily have better relations with the US. Many Lebanese Christians, for example, tend to have close ties with Hamas.

And as for racial profiling, I can agree with her to some degree, but again, many Sikhs could look just as Arab as many Indonesians can look quite different from Arabs.

She did have ideas I'd agreed with, but I think my main issues are with her religious prejudices and also her tact. Often, even when I agree with what she says, it's the way she says it that makes me cringe at times.

She did have some very good points about discussing ethnic issues. I find that the left has become way, way too sensitive about such issues. I've had friends of different backgrounds for many years, and can say that we've sometimes had candid discussions about racial, ethnic, and other such issues. One point that often came up was how they would be offended by a person who tried too hard to not offend them. They're not that fragile. Of course real racism against them will be even more offensive, but fear of offending them is essentially equally racist.

So I'd say that video is a mixed bag. Some I'd agreed with, some not.
 

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Do you actually support free speech for everyone or just people who share your viewpoint?

Coulter should be allowed to speak free in Canada for the same reason Galloway should be allowed to speak freely in Canada. But Galloway was blocked from entering Canada. Coulter was not.




Galloway in his own defense:
YouTube - Canada ban: Galloway faces his accusers a Jewish Defence League (JDL) "Terrorist"

I'd seen that video a long time ago, and the opponent to Galloway made a fool of himself. Galloway, in this and other videos and articles, had pointed out quite clearly the legality of his position, and it's even passed the scrutiny of even British security.
 

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Also, in the Ann Coulter videos, the comment was made that those who supported Galloway coming to Canada also opposed Coulter. I think that was a gross assumption on his part. As far as I'm concerned, Coulter had every right to come and talk.
 

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Also, in the Ann Coulter videos, the comment was made that those who supported Galloway coming to Canada also opposed Coulter. I think that was a gross assumption on his part. As far as I'm concerned, Coulter had every right to come and talk.

I agree.

Two things I loved...one, how she sends people flowers and Michael Moore tries to get them fired........and two, "I don't like to think of Tillman as murdered, I just say he was terminated in the 203 trimester" and "I don't approve of killing abortion doctors, but I don't want to push my morals on anyone else" Talk about rub their noses in it!!!!!
 

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After watching the entire 5 videos (and it is one of the more reasonable interviews I've seen with her, although Michael Coren might get a lot of that credit for being a friendly interviewer), my problem is the length to which her views go, rather than the views themselves. I find she dehumanizes opponents by insisting on slapping labels on them and thus makes it easier to dismiss them. She reminds me of the extremists on the other side when she is so non-chalant and jokes about the abortion doctor being killed or when she corrected Coren about not wanting the janitors & secretaries at the Times killed but wanted the editors and reporters blown up. Thats not dialogue on the issues anymore, thats a complete intolerance for the opposing viewpoint, even if she did try to couch it as a bit of a joke.

In the end, I may sympathize with her on some issues and oppose her on others, but I think she has a right to present her views and what the students and faculty at U of Ottawa did was abhorrent.
 

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After watching the entire 5 videos (and it is one of the more reasonable interviews I've seen with her, although Michael Coren might get a lot of that credit for being a friendly interviewer), my problem is the length to which her views go, rather than the views themselves. I find she dehumanizes opponents by insisting on slapping labels on them and thus makes it easier to dismiss them. She reminds me of the extremists on the other side when she is so non-chalant and jokes about the abortion doctor being killed or when she corrected Coren about not wanting the janitors & secretaries at the Times killed but wanted the editors and reporters blown up. Thats not dialogue on the issues anymore, thats a complete intolerance for the opposing viewpoint, even if she did try to couch it as a bit of a joke.

In the end, I may sympathize with her on some issues and oppose her on others, but I think she has a right to present her views and what the students and faculty at U of Ottawa did was abhorrent.

The doctor that inspired the "terminated in the 203 trimester" comment was the director of a clinic that did "late term" (post 21 week) abortions.....one of only 3 in the nation. What Coulter did was turn the language of pro-choice people against them...........to great effect, IMHO.
 

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As for brains, she has a bunch.........intellectually, I think she leaves the vast majority of her detractors in the dust.

Did you watch all five? the only thing I really had trouble with was her wishing McVeigh had blown up the NY Times.....and I understand she meant it would have been preferable.

A fairly good analysis overall. I find myself agreeing with some of her ideas, but it's the way she expresses them that makes her shoot herself in the foot. One problem is with her sense of humour. It's not always easy to tell when she's joking and when she's serious. Also, there is the issue of self-censorship, knowing her audience and knowing when to say what and when.

As for the bombing the NY times comment, I don't see how it helped her there. I got the impression she meant it as a joke, and was referring to it only in terms of relativity. But when on TV and trying to influence people, that kind of humour is distractive from her main points and risks being misconstrued, resulting in her whole argument coming to naught since the audience is then busy getting enraged at her side joke that they may have misunderstood instead of focusing on her main points.

She has good ideas sometimes, but definitely needs to work on her tact and wisdom in knowing when to say what and how. That's what is hurting her more than anything I'd say.

There is a way of expressing your ideas, the same ideas, but more tactfully, or at the right time. An idea that might be appropriate for one TV programme might not be appropriate for another.

Also, she promotes too much left-right division by stereotyping the left. If sh'd keep an open mind, she might find that some on the left could agree with some of her points. And if she chose her words right, though many on the left would still disagree, they might not e so emotionally opposed.

Lack of tact and wisdom in her choice of words is really what's knocking her down, along with certain religious and ideological prejudices.