The Cost of A Life? $400.00

Sal

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forget the $400, no fine should have been imposed..also this person should lose their license and should have to work with people within the community who need help...food bank, day care...something that would begin to restore their feelings of selfworth...she accidentally took a life and she will never recover from that...but... I'm sure the family would feel better knowing she was helping somehow... I would if I did it and I would if I was the victim's family
 

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I think the guy should have been find far more than $400, maybe the cost a burial for the lady, and maybe some forced driver education classes and well as a public apology for his action..

I get it, it was an accident.. but there has to be a better way to show society cares and is at least trying..

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SLM

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When it comes to traffic accidents, the law tends to treat them according to your actions, not according to the outcomes.

Then perhaps that's a gap that needs to be addressed. Careless driving and/or careless driving causing injury or death.

If she ran up on the curb making a mistake in traffic, and a cop caught her, and fined her $400, would you find it so out of step?
Of course not. But the point of receiving a fine, demerit points, suspensions on your licence, etc for careless driving are to drive the point home that you need to use more caution, keep better control of your vehicle, etc before you end up causing severe damage, injury, or death.
 

Sal

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You make it sound like taking a life is easy if you just walk it.
I don't know what that means..."if you just walk it"

Also I don't know how you could possibily conclude that from my post...however to clarify for you:

I don't think I would ever recover from taking another life even if it were in my home and it was later discovered the guy was a serial killer. If my life was at stake and I emptied a gun into him (and I would) it would make it marginally better but I think I would suffer from PTSD even though he had threatened my life.

I do not believe these people who are gun advocates and just calmly endorse blowing people away for entering their premises. I think they know zero about psychology or their soul or even about themselves.

I think the only way to stabilize oneself after ending another human being's life would be to do the most good one possibly could and do so for those whom the most help is needed, our throw away people.
 

SLM

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Yes it was an accident in the sense that it was not intentional.

Court heard the 54-year-old vice-president of HZX Business Continuity Planning was turning north out of her chiropractor’s driveway and looking left at the traffic when she struck and then ran over Shi. She continued driving until honking witnesses finally alerted her to what she’d done and she returned to the scene.
What I picture is: she was leaning into a right hand turn, with her head cranked to the left looking for her first break in the traffic, and did not check back to her right before proceeding. Ended up on the sidewalk where this woman was walking, hit her, actually ran her car over her, without even realizing it. That has got to be beyond careless venturing into dangerous driving/driver territory. And the result of her careless bordering on dangerous behaviour is that a woman lost her life.

Now I don't think she should be thrown into prison for this. I also, for some unfathomable reason, need to clarify to some that I also do not want to see her whipped, caned, or in any way brutalized. However, a $400 fine is simply an insufficient consequence for what her behaviour has caused.
 

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I don't know what that means..."if you just walk it"

Also I don't know how you could possibily conclude that from my post...however to clarify for you:

I don't think I would ever recover from taking another life even if it were in my home and it was later discovered the guy was a serial killer. If my life was at stake and I emptied a gun into him (and I would) it would make it marginally better but I think I would suffer from PTSD even though he had threatened my life.

I do not believe these people who are gun advocates and just calmly endorse blowing people away for entering their premises. I think they know zero about psychology or their soul or even about themselves.

I think the only way to stabilize oneself after ending another human being's life would be to do the most good one possibly could and do so for those whom the most help is needed, our throw away people.
We all take a huge risk of killing somebody every time we get behind the wheel. I could easily take a life if mine or my family were threatened but by accident, I'd have troubles. Even with both. Even just seeing people die still haunts me. Especially the two that were murdered. I'll NEVER, EVER forgot the screams that made me run down the street to the Our Lady of Lourdes to see an elderly couple gasp their last breaths and all the blood after being hacked up. (shivers)
 

Sal

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We all take a huge risk of killing somebody every time we get behind the wheel. I could easily take a life if mine or my family were threatened but by accident, I'd have troubles. Even with both. Even just seeing people die still haunts me. Especially the two that were murdered. I'll NEVER, EVER forgot the screams that made me run down the street to the Our Lady of Lourdes to see an elderly couple gasp their last breaths and all the blood after being hacked up. (shivers)
you saw people get hacked up? ...omfg, poor you!...PTSD for me...seriously... that would do me in for years...how long did that take you to recover? wow

just helping at an accident scene that we chanced upon haunted me for weeks, well, months actually..yes everytime we get behind the wheel of a car it would be a good idea to remember we could kill another human being and our life as we know it would end with theirs
 

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We all take a huge risk of killing somebody every time we get behind the wheel. I could easily take a life if mine or my family were threatened but by accident, I'd have troubles. Even with both. Even just seeing people die still haunts me. Especially the two that were murdered. I'll NEVER, EVER forgot the screams that made me run down the street to the Our Lady of Lourdes to see an elderly couple gasp their last breaths and all the blood after being hacked up. (shivers)

Holy crap! For real? Wow.
 

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Then perhaps that's a gap that needs to be addressed. Careless driving and/or careless driving causing injury or death.

Of course not. But the point of receiving a fine, demerit points, suspensions on your licence, etc for careless driving are to drive the point home that you need to use more caution, keep better control of your vehicle, etc before you end up causing severe damage, injury, or death.


We have charges for the truly negligent, the truly careless. Vehicular manslaughter.

She doesn't sound like she was doing something so hazardous as to expect to kill someone though. She simply made a bad maneuver in traffic. A dumb on, one that haunts her and broke a family's heart, but it's still not the same as intentionally driving 140 through a school zone or purposely running a red light in a cement truck.
 

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We all take a huge risk of killing somebody every time we get behind the wheel. I could easily take a life if mine or my family were threatened but by accident, I'd have troubles. Even with both. Even just seeing people die still haunts me. Especially the two that were murdered. I'll NEVER, EVER forgot the screams that made me run down the street to the Our Lady of Lourdes to see an elderly couple gasp their last breaths and all the blood after being hacked up. (shivers)

:shock:

I'm sorry to hear that. :(

sometimes its better to call the police in case the perps are still on the premises. not to mention possible crime scene contamination.

did they catch the perps?
 

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you saw people get hacked up? ...omfg, poor you!...PTSD for me...seriously... that would do me in for years...how long did that take you to recover? wow
Holy crap! For real? Wow.
:shock:

I'm sorry to hear that. :(

sometimes its better to call the police in case the perps are still on the premises. not to mention possible crime scene contamination.

did they catch the perps?
It was in the parking lot of the Francophone Church which was about 50m away from my house in Coquitlam. I didn't see him do it, I was there within seconds of it happening.
http://goo.gl/maps/q36S2.

I was in my driveway loading up my crab traps and cooler to spend my Sunday afternoon at Belcarra Park with my wife and daughter and I heard screams like I've never heard before and still haven't to this day and ran down the block as fast as I could to fid out why.

A psychopath killed his ex mother and father in law as they were coming out of Mass, drove up three or four blocks to where his ex lived killed his ex wife by stabbing her.

How long did it take to recover? I didn't, I'm tearing up as I write this.

Read more here. Roufosse family relieved after killer dies in prison - The Tri-City News

Then there are two others in separate accidents that I'd rather not talk about right now.