The case for Israel

[MHz]

MHz, I provided the link that showed why anti-Jewish sentiment is wrong.

Your link also list Henry Kissinger as a recipient.
Are you saying he should be on that list?
Who votes for who gets on the list?
It is a rigged game and your motive was to elevate some Jews to a status that makes them 'more worthy' than many others who aren't.

It is up to you to provide link that shows Jewish criminals, with or without profanity.

Actually you should be backing up why each of those recipients should even be on a list like that, particylarily when it has to do with politics. You shove out a list and say it id definitive proof that they are far above other people, that is why you got the **** word. I'll take it back when you can tell me why those recipients deserved those awards. I already explained that just the one name was enough to show the list is bogus.
Got the award the same year he was organizing political death squads in Chile.
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1973 Chilean coup d'état - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BTW, I have been banned for less than your post of unrestrained hate, profanity and abrasiveness.

If you had something to say about the OP why not just say it rather than posting some crap?

So, be careful, there may be some who report your poison. Not me, though, I would not lower myself to your level.

Well Jack you can always put me on ignore.

 

[CUBert]

There is no case of Israel, jews are generally accepted nowadays, to say they need a homeland to avoid persecution is some retard babble, like you don't recognize this isn't the early 20th century anymore...
... Israel are terrorists, NOT victims....

 

[MHz]

A link to any adequate list of Jewish criminals would be impossible to find.

Not really, why show one side and not the other?

There have probably been millions of Jewish criminals in history.

Probably??

And criminality is so widespread throughout all groups of people that such a list would prove nothing.

Other than they have more criminals in the family that 'politicians' who truly seek peace with any/all neighbors.

Nobel prizes, on the other hand, and much much rarer and so YukonJack's list is significant.

Justify Henry's award.

MHz's reaction to that list is telling.

To a stacked list one not voted on by a 'unaffiliated cross section of the people of the world. It's like an award show for the West and everybody else just doesn't rate.

If I was arguing against Israel in this thread, I would have commented that YukonJack's point was irrelevant to the debate.
Why are you even on the thread if you aren't covering the OP in any way?

MHz, on the other hand, sees an irrelevant point about successful Jews (not Zionists) and immediately reacts with hatred and implies some kind of Jewish criminality.

No it was the source list for what people are valuable, not everybody on that list belongs there.

In the past he was tried to argue that he doesn't hate Jews. Can there be any doubt now?

Instead of flapping your gums endlessly, reply to my points in post #34. If I hate them as much as you say I do there should be something in those few points to back you up, if not you ass is sucking slough-water and this is just another one of your troll posts.

 

[YukonJack]

MHz, I did not make up, I only quoted the list. I am sure Henry Kissinger is no less deserving than Al Gore. Rigged? Of course it is. But like it or not, it is ALWAYS in favor of worthless liberals, and even some of those are Jews.

Actually, YOU should be the one to prove, or at least argue, why some people - in your opinion - should not be on the winners' list. I did NOT shove out, I presented a list, made up by people far smarter than me, Jews or otherwise and whether they deserve their awards or not.

As far as I can tell, my post/list were right in alignment with the OP. Most Zionists - but not all - are Jews and most Jews - but not all - are Zionists. That is exactly the way it should be.

If you have problems with a Jewish homeland, internationally established and recognized as ISRAEL, perhaps you would be willing to give all of the United States and Canada back to the Native People, pissing on the legacy of your forbearers and all those who came here before you.

 

[MHz]

The saddest thing is that this pseudo-Christian MHz is the biggest Bible-Thumper.

Not nearly as sad as you Jack, bitch and whine about how bad it was in your part of Europe and as soon as you on the side with the power you cheer the same kinds of actions. So apparently there is one thing sadder than me, you.

As a moderate Christian I am sure Jesus would look at MHz and weep.

I think you know **** all about the Bible, prove me wrong, list just one verse to back up that liars and thieves are to be honored?

And call him a Philistine, richly deserved.

Like the land that was there before Israel existed. What was it called by God after He had to remove them from His land (600BC), not theirs, His?

 

[YukonJack]

"Well Jack you can always put me on ignore."

Well, first of all, you indolent piece of crap, who is too lazy to peck out a few key strokes, i't not Javck, if you are talking to me, it's YukonJack.

And I have absolutely no intention to put you on ignore. You are always a fresh source of laughter, induced by your innate ignorance.

"Well Jack you can always put me on ignore."

Well, first of all, you indolent piece of crap, who is too lazy to peck out a few key strokes, it's not Jack, if you are talking to me, it's YukonJack.

And I have absolutely no intention to put you on ignore. You are always a fresh source of laughter, induced by your innate ignorance.

Correcting a couple of spelling errors.

 

[MHz]

MHz, I did not make up, I only quoted the list. I am sure Henry Kissinger is no less deserving than Al Gore. Rigged? Of course it is. But like it or not, it is ALWAYS in favor of worthless liberals, and even some of those are Jews.

Go read up on Chile before you promote Henry as deserving anything but what any war criminal deserves. OBL got tapped and Henry was a much bigger ass than he was, but he was working for the US so it gets white-washed and you swallowed the whole deal.

Rigged? Of course it is. Then why post it, did Israel need the boost, in your mind's eye?

 

[YukonJack]

MHz, before I dignify your crap with any more of my time and effort, I will let other comment.

If they come out in your favor, I promise I will concede and apologize.

Bye for now.

 

[MHz]

"Well Jack you can always put me on ignore."
Well, first of all, you indolent piece of crap, who is too lazy to peck out a few key strokes, i't not Javck, if you are talking to me, it's YukonJack.
And I have absolutely no intention to put you on ignore. You are always a fresh source of laughter, induced by your innate ignorance.
Correcting a couple of spelling errors.

Well Jerk you may have to suck it up a bit then. Post a list you know is corrupt and then get indignant when you get called on it, GFY.

Come back when you have the facts about Henry and Chile 1973, Henry was every bit as bad as what Stalin was, just not as exposed.

 

[YukonJack]

Well Jerk you may have to suck it up a bit then. Post a list you know is corrupt and then get indignant when you get called on it, GFY.

Come back when you have the facts about Henry and Chile 1973, Henry was every bit as bad as what Stalin was, just not as exposed.

Well, now, how about a Bible-thumper (actually a Bible-misquoter) being so loving and tolerant as purposely calling one who never earned or deserved it a name like "Jerk"?

Prove that the list I provided is corrupt.

Well, never mind! Anyone who compares (as in your case, unfavorably) Henry Kissinger to Joseph Stalin is a certifiable mental case.

Once again, Good Bye. I will stick to it, if you will. Just one more thing: I promise I will be decent and gracious enough not to tell you to GFY, and I will not be hypocritical not saying so while (mis)quoting the Bible.

 

[Corduroy]

There is no case of Israel, jews are generally accepted nowadays, to say they need a homeland to avoid persecution is some retard babble, like you don't recognize this isn't the early 20th century anymore...
... Israel are terrorists, NOT victims....

OK, so you've established why you think Jews don't deserve a homeland. Do you think Arabs in Palestine do?

 

[MHz]

OK, so you've established why you think Jews don't deserve a homeland. Do you think Arabs in Palestine do?

Just how did you 'establish' that, if anything it should show that 33 Nations do not have the right to violate a 34th Nation.
Why not do your own history? If Britain is honoring an 'agreement' made with the House of Rothschild to create a Jewish homeland why are they also making a deal with the 'local residents' (Jews, Muslims, and Christians, mostly Muslims) that they would become an independent state if they helped Britain win WWI. they helped so where is their independence??

Well, now, how about a Bible-thumper (actually a Bible-misquoter) being so loving and tolerant as purposely calling one who never earned or deserved it a name like "Jerk"?

Prove that the list I provided is corrupt.

Well, never mind! Anyone who compares (as in your case, unfavorably) Henry Kissinger to Joseph Stalin is a certifiable mental case.

Once again, Good Bye. I will stick to it, if you will. Just one more thing: I promise I will be decent and gracious enough not to tell you to GFY, and I will not be hypocritical not saying so while (mis)quoting the Bible.

I already did by pointing out Henry is on there the same years he was overthrowing an elected Government in Chile.

(actually a Bible-misquoter) This should be good, knock your socks off liar.

 

[Corduroy]

I'm asking CUBert for his opinion and his own arguments for those opinions. That has nothing to do with what you just said.

 

[CDNBear]

Can there be any doubt now?

There wasn't any doubt before.

There is no case of Israel, jews are generally accepted nowadays...

This is why words are so important, "nowadays". It's 2011 cubby, not 1947.

The rest of your post becomes irrelevant when you factor in, fact.

 

[earth_as_one]

The saddest thing is that this pseudo-Christian MHz is the biggest Bible-Thumper.

As a moderate Christian I am sure Jesus would look at MHz and weep.

And call him a Philistine, richly deserved.

I'm sure Jesus would look at the concentration camps throughout the Palestinian region, witness Zionist oppression, injustice and cruelty and weep.

I'll stand by that statement until someone can find a quote attributed to Jesus in support of ethnic cleansing and concentration camps for non-Jews. I'll even accept a quote by Jesus in support of awarding rights based on level of Jewishness.

For all the Jew-haters here is a link that, I daresay, you will have hard time to match with your Arab puppets:

Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

Hope that none of you, and neither your Palestinian pals will ever need a medical procedure invented/developed/discovered by a Jew, because knowing how straight-up and noble people you are, you would rather die than having to be grateful to a Jew.

Actually all other ethnic and religious groups would have a hard time matching that list of Jewish Nobel winners, not just Arabs and Muslims.

Jews as a group have also made many contributions to entertainment industry:

Category:Jewish comedians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Category:Jewish actors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Category:Jewish singers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Category:Jewish musicians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_entertainers

My favorite comedians include Jerry Seinfeld, Woody Allen and Jon Stewart. My favorite directors include Steven Spielberg. I'm also a fan of Bill Nye the Science Guy. I judge people by their actions, not their religion.

Many Jews on YJ's list did not support Israel's creation and many of those that did, never envisioned Zionism would lead to lifetime internment of non-Jews behind walls, razor wire and guard towers.


Fundamentally what's going on in Zionist controlled Israel has little to do with Judaism. All major religions including Judaism, Christianity and even Islam support freedom and justice. None support war crimes or crimes against humanity. Zionists have twisted and perverted Judaism into a divine entitlement myth and then used that myth to justify their prejudice and discrimination. Zionist Jews believe they are "God's Chosen People" and because of their special superior status, they have a God given right to commit horrendous atrocities against inferior non-Jews. These people are about as misguided and dangerous as Nazi Germans who also believed in their special status as the superior Master Race gave them the right to treat inferiors cruelly based on race/religious based on their classifications of people. The inferiors in Zionist controlled Israel and the Occupied Palestinian territories, like the inferiors who suffered under Nazi oppression and injustice also have little to no human rights. The only difference between Zionists and Nazis at the moment is degree of cruelty they impose on their version of inferiors. We still don't know how low the Zionists will go. As Zionists war criminals commit new more obscene atrocities against their inferiors, they may eventually sink to the point where Zionists start rounding up undesirables for extermination. The Zionists haven't sunk as low as the Nazis yet, but they are well on their way down the slippery path which ultimately leads to genocide.

Neither Jews nor Germans are inherently cruel. Prejudice and discrimination are a dark side of human nature common to all races and religions. In any population there will always be people who can be convinced they are superior to others. Religion and race are just two ways people can differentiate between the superior "us" and the inferior "them".

What's going on in Zionist controlled Israel is a sad statement about man's cruelty toward man, not Judaism.

 

[Just the Facts]

I'm sure Jesus would look at the concentration camps throughout the Palestinian region, witness Zionist oppression, injustice and cruelty and weep.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know the only concentration camps are in Arab controlled areas of Palestine, and in Lebanon.

 

[earth_as_one]

You are wrong JTF. An area surrounded by walls, razor wire and guard towers, where movement in and out of this area is restricted, is a prison. When people live in prisons because of who they are (race/religion...), rather than what they've done, then that prison is a concentration camp.

A concentration camp becomes an extermination camp when authorities start exterminating the detainees. Zionist controlled Israel isn't here yet, but they are well on their way.

Pictures of Zionist controlled Israel's concentration camps:
Israel / Palestine photos : Separation wall security wall photo security Fence Barrier Photo Photo Gallery by Eyal Dor-Ofer at pbase.com

Attempts to link Judaism to Zionist human rights abuses, war crimes and crimes against humanity is now called Bluewashing:
bluewash. (verb): the use of Jewish culture, religion, and heritage to try to cover up human rights abuses of Palestinians, while endangering the lives of Jews in Israel and around the world.

Many/most Jews respect human rights. These Jews oppose bluewashing:

Why are you Young, Jewish, and Proud?

 

[Just the Facts]

No sorry, security walls are designed to keep people out. Prison walls are designed to keep people in. Study that.

On the lighter side of the news, Hamas has agreed to accept a state within the pre-1967 borders, but has refused to recognize Israel. lol

In other words, Hamas has agreed to allow Israel to evacuate the West Bank just like they did Gaza, in exchange for nothing, so that Hamas can fire rockets at school buses from there too.

Of course, when Israel refuses that deal, they will be blamed for impeding the peace process.

And so it goes on.....

 

[earth_as_one]

That's funny JTF. In Canada's prisons, we also prevent the people surrounded by walls from entering the rest of Canada. But the people we surround with walls have either committed crimes or are waiting trial. Unless they are serving life sentences, the people inside the walls will eventually be able to leave the area surrounded by walls.

Israel's Apartheid walls surround Israel's non-citizens. If these walls were designed to keep people out, then these people inside would be free to go elsewhere. No matter which direction these people go, these people encounter a wall or a barrier. The only way out of these areas is through Israeli security with Israeli permission. If they try to leave their area without Israeli permission, they will be shot.

That's a prison.

Children born in these concentration camps have been given a life sentence. They will never be able to leave the confines of the walled areas except with the permission of Israeli authorities. They will never know freedom. Since these children are born without citizenship, no human rights and can be shot with impunity by Israeli citizens, they will never know justice.

 

[mentalfloss]

Let's take a little break..

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