The Bizarre Case of "Admiral Mark Norman"
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tecumsehbonesforbrains accidentally reveals the GREAT FEAR that is stalking the legal community of defense lawyers and political "legal advisors" and LIE-beral "advocates"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That as LIE-beral policy falls ever further into disgrace.....................................
and LIE-beral politicians are systematically flushed into the sewers of history...............................
that the legal eagles might end up getting paid what their work is ACTUALLY WORTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY dont you go to the range T-bonesforbrains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And play with your little gun for a while????????????????????????????
It might help you deal with the Political REALITY that has no use for your poisoned crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUREY: Brace yourselves — the Mark Norman trial is about to overtake Lavscam
When Liberal MP Andrew Leslie announced on Wednesday that he wasn’t running for re-election, there was considerable speculation about his motivations.
Was the retired lieutenant-general leaving politics after only one term because he no longer cared for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s agenda?
Or was the man, previously touted as a star candidate, frustrated to have been left out of cabinet while those with fewer accomplishments under their belts leapfrogged over him?
Or, maybe, the 61-year-old who represents a riding in the east of Ottawa is in fact leaving because of news that just broke concerning a far more scandalous matter.
On Friday, CTV News reported that Leslie is on the witness list to testify in the Vice-Admiral Mark Norman case and that he will be testifying in Norman’s defence and therefore against the government.
Norman is defending himself against one criminal charge of breach of trust, alleging that he illegally leaked cabinet confidence news of a shipbuilding contract to the media.
Not only is Norman vigorously denying this, but the case is believed to be the first time someone in Canada has ever been criminally charged for a leak.
Since there are leaks all the time in Ottawa, the notion that a decorated and respected former head of the Navy and vice-chief of the defence staff would be the first to be charged with something that (even if true) is so minor in the grand scheme of things has infuriated military and veterans circles.
To add insult to injury, the government is refusing to shoulder the costs of Norman’s defence, as is sometimes done in cases like this.
Because of this, Norman has had to remortgage his family’s home to pay his mounting legal bills.
An online GoFundMe account though has already raised over $360,000 for Norman. It’s believed to be the largest such defence fund of its kind and saw a spike in activity on Friday following the news about Leslie’s plan to testify.
That a Liberal caucus member is planning to take the stand against his own government in support of Norman will serve a lot to rally public opinion to Norman’s side.
He’s not the only retired senior military figure speaking out. “Mark Norman is a personal hero of mine,” Gen. Rick Hillier said in March at the Manning Conference. “I would stand by him anytime.”
A source familiar with the case told the Sun that Leslie notified the Prime Minister’s Office about his decision to testify many months ago. Leslie perhaps figured that this would make it almost impossible to advance in cabinet even if he was re-elected in October and even if the Liberals continue to hold government.
The Norman trial has the potential to be even worse than Lavscam. First, there’s the timing of it. While no dates are yet set — the case is currently in pre-trial — it’s believed it will unfold in August, during the lead-up to the election.
But more importantly, there is what’s at stake. The allegation behind Lavscam was that the Prime Minister and those around him attempted to interfere with the justice system to prevent a corporation from having to face criminal prosecution.
That is certainly not good. But this is different. It’s worse.
Norman’s defence team, headed up by Marie Henein, is now arguing that the charge against Norman was politically motivated because of how the leak caused trouble for the PM.
Think about what that claim actually says: The PMO worked behind the scenes to put the head of the Navy behind bars because he inconvenienced Trudeau.
Brace yourselves for a case that’s just getting started.
torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/furey-brace-yourselves-the-mark-norman-trial-is-about-to-overtake-lavscam
When Liberal MP Andrew Leslie announced on Wednesday that he wasn’t running for re-election, there was considerable speculation about his motivations.
Was the retired lieutenant-general leaving politics after only one term because he no longer cared for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s agenda?
Or was the man, previously touted as a star candidate, frustrated to have been left out of cabinet while those with fewer accomplishments under their belts leapfrogged over him?
Or, maybe, the 61-year-old who represents a riding in the east of Ottawa is in fact leaving because of news that just broke concerning a far more scandalous matter.
On Friday, CTV News reported that Leslie is on the witness list to testify in the Vice-Admiral Mark Norman case and that he will be testifying in Norman’s defence and therefore against the government.
Norman is defending himself against one criminal charge of breach of trust, alleging that he illegally leaked cabinet confidence news of a shipbuilding contract to the media.
Not only is Norman vigorously denying this, but the case is believed to be the first time someone in Canada has ever been criminally charged for a leak.
Since there are leaks all the time in Ottawa, the notion that a decorated and respected former head of the Navy and vice-chief of the defence staff would be the first to be charged with something that (even if true) is so minor in the grand scheme of things has infuriated military and veterans circles.
To add insult to injury, the government is refusing to shoulder the costs of Norman’s defence, as is sometimes done in cases like this.
Because of this, Norman has had to remortgage his family’s home to pay his mounting legal bills.
An online GoFundMe account though has already raised over $360,000 for Norman. It’s believed to be the largest such defence fund of its kind and saw a spike in activity on Friday following the news about Leslie’s plan to testify.
That a Liberal caucus member is planning to take the stand against his own government in support of Norman will serve a lot to rally public opinion to Norman’s side.
He’s not the only retired senior military figure speaking out. “Mark Norman is a personal hero of mine,” Gen. Rick Hillier said in March at the Manning Conference. “I would stand by him anytime.”
A source familiar with the case told the Sun that Leslie notified the Prime Minister’s Office about his decision to testify many months ago. Leslie perhaps figured that this would make it almost impossible to advance in cabinet even if he was re-elected in October and even if the Liberals continue to hold government.
The Norman trial has the potential to be even worse than Lavscam. First, there’s the timing of it. While no dates are yet set — the case is currently in pre-trial — it’s believed it will unfold in August, during the lead-up to the election.
But more importantly, there is what’s at stake. The allegation behind Lavscam was that the Prime Minister and those around him attempted to interfere with the justice system to prevent a corporation from having to face criminal prosecution.
That is certainly not good. But this is different. It’s worse.
Norman’s defence team, headed up by Marie Henein, is now arguing that the charge against Norman was politically motivated because of how the leak caused trouble for the PM.
Think about what that claim actually says: The PMO worked behind the scenes to put the head of the Navy behind bars because he inconvenienced Trudeau.
Brace yourselves for a case that’s just getting started.
torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/furey-brace-yourselves-the-mark-norman-trial-is-about-to-overtake-lavscam
Keep up the good work , this stuff can’t die . Where are all those pit bulls that were all over Mike Daffey ?
Who ? I don’t see all the crack investigative reporters from CTV , CBC , Global etc.reporting daily on this scandal nor the SNC Lavilon mess . With Mike Daffey they were pilling on daily for two years .
I served under Andrew Leslie and I don't think much of the man. He's an opportunist. However, his breaking from the Liberal ranks to testify on behalf of Mark Norman is a clear signal that the Liberal government is in disarray.
My guess is that Leslie will testify and with Brison, we will see a similar pattern of obstruction and interference as was with Trudeau, Butte and Wernick in SNC Lavalin case.
My guess is that Leslie will testify and with Brison, we will see a similar pattern of obstruction and interference as was with Trudeau, Butte and Wernick in SNC Lavalin case.
I know that it is irrelevant to the legal case but Asterix, which is what this is all about, appears to be a complete success and she's steaming all over the globe doing precisely what the Navy needed ... and not one scrap of steel has been cut year at Seaspan to make the alternative AORs in the current government plan.
Norman got the job done on time, on budget. He's on trial because he's competent in a world full of incompetent.
"Liberal MP and former army commander Andrew Leslie has offered to be a witness for Vice Admiral Mark Norman at his upcoming trial on one charge of breach of trust this summer."
nationalpost.com/news/canada/liberal-mp-andrew-leslie-offers-to-testify-for-vice-admiral-mark-norman-at-upcoming-trial
I highly doubt that someone who has 'offered' to testify for the defense is there to obstruct, RCS.
Faux News has never even heard of Canada or of Admiral Norman.
It's a big empty space up here, above the margin of the maps.
It's a big empty space up here, above the margin of the maps.
THE WORST of it is................................
that while Cdn news media WHORES were crying about Mike Duffy............................
they were also IGNORING LIE-beral senator MacDonald Harb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And HARB took WAY MORE MONEY than Duffy ever did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yet LIE-berals find it HARD TO UNDERSTAND why Cdns are turning away from traditional news media sources!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The TRUE HEART of the Duffy "scandal' was that Conservatives wanted to rein in the grotesque extravagance of the senate gravy
train and LIE-berals considered it their RIGHT TO KEEP SPENDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals were ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIED that a Conservative govt would actually BULLY senators into paying back wasted money!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals sincerely BELIEVE that govt gravy IS SUPPOSED TO BE WASTED on friends and allies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Conservative concept of frugality and accountability to tax payers is something LIE-berals think should be cured...........................
with ELECTROSHOCK THERAPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Problem is that he is footing his own legal bills - will he be able to continue once the money runs out? Hopefully there is a "go fund me' page. Is the prosecution using delay tactics to bankrupt him?
I would hope the Court would castigate the prosecution for the delay in releasing documents - contempt of court??