The Bizarre Case of "Admiral Mark Norman"
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Hey, look at this! The SNC Lavalin and Admiral Norman scandals criss-cross!
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/snc-lavalin-contract-defence-bribery-1.5073996
Defence lawyers receive heavily censored memo to Trudeau about Mark Norman's case
A 60-page memo about Vice-Admiral Mark Norman's breach of trust case — written by the country's top federal bureaucrat to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau — has been delivered to Norman's lawyers with its contents almost completely blacked out.
Norman's defence team isn't happy with the redaction and plans to fight it in court.
The Department of Justice claims the document is subject to solicitor-client privilege and cannot be completely disclosed.
Marie Henein, Norman's lead counsel, has alleged political interference in the prosecution of the former head of the navy. Norman is accused of leaking cabinet secrets related to a $668 million shipbuilding deal.
Memos blacked out
She has subpoenaed documents from the Privy Council Office and the Prime Minister's Office — including emails, texts and personal notes — to make that case.
A number of records have been disclosed as a result of the court order, but some have arrived in redacted form due to claims of solicitor-client privilege, including the memo from Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick to Trudeau.
Both Judge Heather Perkins-McVey and Henein noted in court today that Wernick is not a lawyer. The clerk's degree is in economics.
Other large memos related to the case have been blacked out, including two written by the Privy Council's top lawyer, Paul Shuttle, to Wernick.
The disclosure of the clerk's briefing to the prime minister raised some eyebrows because, following previous searches, the Department of Justice reported to the defence that Wernick had no notes related to Norman's prosecution.
Two days have been set aside — April 16 and 17 — for the defence to make its case to see uncensored versions of the memos.
Norman is scheduled to go to trial in August, right around the time the federal election campaign gets underway.
The hunt for documents which could help defend Norman has been a slow process marked by missteps and confusion, and several sharp rebukes from the judge.
On Thursday, lawyers for two of the country's leading shipyards were in court to review the release of documents related to them.
The federal government has turned over hundreds of pages of internal records that both Irving Shipbuilding in Halifax and the Davie Shipyard, in Levis, Que., might consider commercially sensitive.
The documents might be pertinent to the defence and the judge asked the two companies to make sure they're comfortable with what the court will release to both the Crown and the defence.
Duplicate documents
The lawyer for Irving said the federal government had flagged nine documents for review, but the judge noted that she had seen at least 24 records that the company might also want to review.
Both shipyards left Thursday's hearing to examine the complete set of records.
The judge upbraided federal lawyers for sending her duplicate copies of the same documents — with some versions censored to purge cabinet secrets and others left untouched. "Certainly you were supposed to be reviewing for duplication, but I can tell you, you haven't been," said Perkins-McVey.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-norman-wernick-trudeau-leaks-shipbuilding-1.5075250
A 60-page memo about Vice-Admiral Mark Norman's breach of trust case — written by the country's top federal bureaucrat to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau — has been delivered to Norman's lawyers with its contents almost completely blacked out.
Norman's defence team isn't happy with the redaction and plans to fight it in court.
The Department of Justice claims the document is subject to solicitor-client privilege and cannot be completely disclosed.
Marie Henein, Norman's lead counsel, has alleged political interference in the prosecution of the former head of the navy. Norman is accused of leaking cabinet secrets related to a $668 million shipbuilding deal.
Memos blacked out
She has subpoenaed documents from the Privy Council Office and the Prime Minister's Office — including emails, texts and personal notes — to make that case.
A number of records have been disclosed as a result of the court order, but some have arrived in redacted form due to claims of solicitor-client privilege, including the memo from Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick to Trudeau.
Both Judge Heather Perkins-McVey and Henein noted in court today that Wernick is not a lawyer. The clerk's degree is in economics.
Other large memos related to the case have been blacked out, including two written by the Privy Council's top lawyer, Paul Shuttle, to Wernick.
The disclosure of the clerk's briefing to the prime minister raised some eyebrows because, following previous searches, the Department of Justice reported to the defence that Wernick had no notes related to Norman's prosecution.
Two days have been set aside — April 16 and 17 — for the defence to make its case to see uncensored versions of the memos.
Norman is scheduled to go to trial in August, right around the time the federal election campaign gets underway.
The hunt for documents which could help defend Norman has been a slow process marked by missteps and confusion, and several sharp rebukes from the judge.
On Thursday, lawyers for two of the country's leading shipyards were in court to review the release of documents related to them.
The federal government has turned over hundreds of pages of internal records that both Irving Shipbuilding in Halifax and the Davie Shipyard, in Levis, Que., might consider commercially sensitive.
The documents might be pertinent to the defence and the judge asked the two companies to make sure they're comfortable with what the court will release to both the Crown and the defence.
Duplicate documents
The lawyer for Irving said the federal government had flagged nine documents for review, but the judge noted that she had seen at least 24 records that the company might also want to review.
Both shipyards left Thursday's hearing to examine the complete set of records.
The judge upbraided federal lawyers for sending her duplicate copies of the same documents — with some versions censored to purge cabinet secrets and others left untouched. "Certainly you were supposed to be reviewing for duplication, but I can tell you, you haven't been," said Perkins-McVey.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-norman-wernick-trudeau-leaks-shipbuilding-1.5075250
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Somewhere...............................
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You are dedicated to them so you are insulting ordinary people with Fake News......................................
but your status as LIE-beral TROLL is not good enough to get you noticed by the big wigs in the party|!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are like one of those low level Nazi goons scurrying like a cockroach looking for a hiding place after being abandoned by your leaders as WW2 wended!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for this, Ron. Interesting comment by the young woman near the very end of the program who mentioned that while the Harper government scandal came near the end of his 2nd term in office, the trudeau liberals are facing two extremely serious allegations of government malfeasance in just 3 and 1/2 years.
Now we know what the liberals meant when they said they were going to do things differently. :lol:
I'm sure that they're still putting wads of bills in paper bags in Quebec ridings. Old traditions ...
'We aren't going to turn the page': Conservatives try again to tie Norman trial to SNC-Lavalin fallout
Finally, maybe all those emails I've been sending to Andrew about going after the Vice-Admiral Norman scandal are paying off. :smile: Think I'll shoot him off another one now and thank him for getting on this.
BONOKOSKI: Vice-Admiral Mark Norman and the sinking of the HMCS Trudeau
Seeing as the Trudeau Liberals and their vainglorious leader have been rattled to the gunnels by silly antics, ethics breaches, leaks, miscalculations and scandals, the mere mention of Vice-Admiral Mark Norman’s name must bring on visions of yet another hell on the horizon.
His preliminary hearing in Ottawa for allegedly leaking government secrets to influence cabinet’s decision on a $700 million shipbuilding contract with Quebec’s Davie shipyard has been moving with the slowness of a snail, and will not resume again until May 8.
Admiral Norman, who has denied any wrongdoing, has hired a marquee defence team from Toronto, headed by Marie Henein, best known eviscerating the accusers of former CBC radio star Jian Ghomeshi that saw him acquitted of a lengthy list of sexual assault charges. When and if Justice Heather Perkins-McVey decides whether there is enough evidence to send Norman to trial, that criminal proceeding will occur smack-dab in the middle of the final leg of Justin Trudeau’s run for re-election.
After ethics breaches, illegal holidays, an embarrassing dress-up trip to India, the burning of bridges to vital trade relationships, the bouncing of two key cabinet ministers, the resignation of his best friend and principal advisor, the early retirement of the Clerk of the Privy Council, carbon-tax fights with five very pissed-off premiers and the Lavscam scandal, the last thing Trudeau needs is another bump in the road. But Norman looms large as that bump, just like the trial of an innocent ‘Ol Duff for senatorial expense jiggery-pokery did nothing to help Stephen Harper and the Conservatives during the 2015 election.
Norman is not some ordinary seaman, after all, but the second-in-command of Canada’s entire armed forces, albeit now suspended. Defence counsel is presently focused on outgoing Privy Council Clerk Michael Wernick, who wrote his goodbye Thursday, and how he blew his cover of solicitor-client privilege when he spoke publicly of Norman during the Commons justice committee doing its shallow dive into the Lavscam scandal.
One of Norman’s lawyer, Christine Manville, argued that despite the government claiming privilege for documents by Wernick related to the case, they should be released to the defence because Wernick himself told the justice committee that “the easiest way to deal with the Norman matter was to let the judge decide what is relevant.” The key document the defence wants to get its dubs on is an uncensored copy of the 60-page memo Wernick wrote to Trudeau on the Norman affair, claiming the document is vital to mounting a solid defence for the admiral.
And then, of course, there is the spectre of Scott Brison, the long-timeLiberal cabinet minister with Conservative roots, who suddenly resigned and fled government around the same time Norman went down. Brison, a Nova Scotian, has long been associated with backing the Irving shipbuilding company in Halifax, the rival of Davie shipyard.
Norman’s defence is trying diligently to drag Brison into the mix, citing him as instrumental in the leak-prone cabinet meeting at the heart of the case.
It’s all very toxic with, like Lavscam, Trudeau and his inner circle standing accused of attempting to hold back key evidence that could potentially bring more damage to their already battered brand.
But, day by day, something new seems to surface.
And none of it good for the PM’s fading star.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/colu...rk-norman-and-the-sinking-of-the-hmcs-trudeau
Seeing as the Trudeau Liberals and their vainglorious leader have been rattled to the gunnels by silly antics, ethics breaches, leaks, miscalculations and scandals, the mere mention of Vice-Admiral Mark Norman’s name must bring on visions of yet another hell on the horizon.
His preliminary hearing in Ottawa for allegedly leaking government secrets to influence cabinet’s decision on a $700 million shipbuilding contract with Quebec’s Davie shipyard has been moving with the slowness of a snail, and will not resume again until May 8.
Admiral Norman, who has denied any wrongdoing, has hired a marquee defence team from Toronto, headed by Marie Henein, best known eviscerating the accusers of former CBC radio star Jian Ghomeshi that saw him acquitted of a lengthy list of sexual assault charges. When and if Justice Heather Perkins-McVey decides whether there is enough evidence to send Norman to trial, that criminal proceeding will occur smack-dab in the middle of the final leg of Justin Trudeau’s run for re-election.
After ethics breaches, illegal holidays, an embarrassing dress-up trip to India, the burning of bridges to vital trade relationships, the bouncing of two key cabinet ministers, the resignation of his best friend and principal advisor, the early retirement of the Clerk of the Privy Council, carbon-tax fights with five very pissed-off premiers and the Lavscam scandal, the last thing Trudeau needs is another bump in the road. But Norman looms large as that bump, just like the trial of an innocent ‘Ol Duff for senatorial expense jiggery-pokery did nothing to help Stephen Harper and the Conservatives during the 2015 election.
Norman is not some ordinary seaman, after all, but the second-in-command of Canada’s entire armed forces, albeit now suspended. Defence counsel is presently focused on outgoing Privy Council Clerk Michael Wernick, who wrote his goodbye Thursday, and how he blew his cover of solicitor-client privilege when he spoke publicly of Norman during the Commons justice committee doing its shallow dive into the Lavscam scandal.
One of Norman’s lawyer, Christine Manville, argued that despite the government claiming privilege for documents by Wernick related to the case, they should be released to the defence because Wernick himself told the justice committee that “the easiest way to deal with the Norman matter was to let the judge decide what is relevant.” The key document the defence wants to get its dubs on is an uncensored copy of the 60-page memo Wernick wrote to Trudeau on the Norman affair, claiming the document is vital to mounting a solid defence for the admiral.
And then, of course, there is the spectre of Scott Brison, the long-timeLiberal cabinet minister with Conservative roots, who suddenly resigned and fled government around the same time Norman went down. Brison, a Nova Scotian, has long been associated with backing the Irving shipbuilding company in Halifax, the rival of Davie shipyard.
Norman’s defence is trying diligently to drag Brison into the mix, citing him as instrumental in the leak-prone cabinet meeting at the heart of the case.
It’s all very toxic with, like Lavscam, Trudeau and his inner circle standing accused of attempting to hold back key evidence that could potentially bring more damage to their already battered brand.
But, day by day, something new seems to surface.
And none of it good for the PM’s fading star.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/colu...rk-norman-and-the-sinking-of-the-hmcs-trudeau
Typical lawyer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All the legal defense you can PAY FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And then, of course, there is the spectre of Scott Brison, ... in the scuppers with the staggers and jags ...