The bible is a fairy tale!

[MHz]

My understanding of the prophecies presupposes that there's no god and that they have to be interpreted in terms of the historical context in which they were written, they are not evidence against god's existence and I've never used them as such. No, that doesn't interest me either, and I can't see how it has any bearing on opportunity cost anyway. Maybe you need to look up what it means.

Then shouldn't you limit the scope of your arguments to the stories that are historical rather than start to define the prophecies.

"The cost of passing up the next best choice when making a decision."
Reading the prophecies has no hidden cost other than being labeled a kook by the ones who don't believe in God, and if you disagree with the mass majority of that group you get the heretic label. Win-win anyway you look at it. The 2nd choice for me would be to accept something I don't believe in, it might make living with some people a little easier but then that not being throughly convinced part means living with myself would be more difficult. From my pov there is going to be one choice that is more rational than the other.

In the other case the alternative would have needed other tactics and that is a situation where the next best choice was really no choice at all unless rolling over and playing dead was the 3rd choice. It is better to be playing with just their money don't you agree? Those choices do have an economic impact for all the players involved.
Do you understand why I can separate the two?

 

[Cliffy]

Then shouldn't you limit the scope of your arguments to the stories that are historical rather than start to define the prophecies.

"The cost of passing up the next best choice when making a decision."
Reading the prophecies has no hidden cost other than being labeled a kook by the ones who don't believe in God, and if you disagree with the mass majority of that group you get the heretic label. Win-win anyway you look at it. The 2nd choice for me would be to accept something I don't believe in, it might make living with some people a little easier but then that not being throughly convinced part means living with myself would be more difficult. From my pov there is going to be one choice that is more rational than the other.

In the other case the alternative would have needed other tactics and that is a situation where the next best choice was really no choice at all unless rolling over and playing dead was the 3rd choice. It is better to be playing with just their money don't you agree? Those choices do have an economic impact for all the players involved.
Do you understand why I can separate the two?

Well that was completely incomprehensible, although I understand that "playing with your money" is biblical code for "beat your meat in the Mississippi mud."

 

[Goober]

HeHe,

Thou word is not my command, therefore I will respond to whom I wish at the time I want. :lol:

I do not command - I asked - Is that a problem?

 

[GreenFish66]

OK, sorry about the title guys, I really don't want to take it that far but I do wish to make a point.

Can I talk about my non-religious beliefs in this forum too? Is it OK to give an opposing point of view?

I was brought up going to Cathlic school and getting my finger whacked every time I said the wrong thing. I had to study the bible everyday and the more I had to read it the more it sounded like a fairy tale. I mean.... Adam & Eve and a serpent? come on, get real, even as a kid I did not believe this. The great flood and the parting of the seas? hmmm.... maybe I'm not sooooo sure about this one.

Anyways, the only point I'm trying to make is that religion exists everywhere and it is always an almighty father. You always hear about what happens if you don't do as you're told.

Fact is, in the olden days the Roman Catholics had to control the public or there would have been anarchy. Imagine if there were no consequences to your actions. So just as a child gets told "wait till your father gets home" so do adults get told by their religious leaders in order to put the fear of god into them. For adults it is "wait until you meet your almighty father". Very much the same way we control our young ones.

I do believe in a higher power, but I believe we are all gods in our own right. We are part of the whole and when we pass our energy re-joins the whole, so therefore we are part of the energy that makes up god. The best way I can express a comparison is to compare it to the human brain, it is one single entity but it is made up of millions of separate cells making up the whole.

We are all one and interconnected, what you do to others will certainly come back to you in the end.

I am deeply deeply sorry if I offended anyone and I need to express that this is my opinion only and does not intend to take away from anybody else's beliefs, nor do I intend to belittle them in any way.

I would love to hear more non-traditional views on religion, without slandering the belief of others of course. Please respect my view in the same manner I respect yours.

Mapleone - "The Bible is A Fairy Tale "

It doesn't surprise me in the least that you would compare the Bible to a fairy tale ... Only proves your limited understanding of Good ancient literature...

The Bible has staying power...

Maple one ..Have you ever read the Bible?

What is your favorite Fairy Tale?

Mine was Chicken little , When I was three..

I am not a religious person, but I do appreciate a good book ...

Has anyone read any good books lately? ...

I just finished another Great book Called "The Lightness of Being" By Frank Wilczek.. It was very, well, enlightening/Illuminating and I would recommend it to anyone that has an education level past Preschool

When I am asked ..Do I believe in Big G ...I always answer ..."Yes" ...Too negative to say no ..And if your not careful ...iITt.'ll ZAP YA! ..Especially on Sunday's ...

Now it's time to rest..

L8R

Peace...

Ok Maple 1... Good Thread/post ... I agree with everything you said except the part about the Bible being a Fairy tale...Although, I guess in Sunday School the Bible's stories are told in Fairy Tale Form for the kids .. ...Ah so ..I guess .You are correct on that point as well .( As you explain it)..So ..Ah ..Yeah ..Good thread/Post .... lol

It is a Good Book full of valuable ancient text as Well ..

Peace

Ah yeah ..again I apologize Maple 1 , Guess I should have read all of your first post ...

So, anyway .. What is your favorite Fairy Tale from the Kids Bible Stories?..

 

[AnnaG]

So what about those before JC came along.

What about those that have never heard the word

They're SOL, Goob. They bit the green wiener, toast, done for, etc., so to speak.

1Pe:4:5:
Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
1Pe:4:6:
For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead,
that they might be judged according to men in the flesh,
but live according to God in the spirit.

So what's the difference between someone like me, who is a good person, and those before JC, who never heard of any Jehovah, Yeshua, or whatever? Nothing except that those people are dead and were completely ignorant of this god and that I am alive and think that gods have no interest in humankind. Good people before JC and good people after.
Or how about the Buddhists who have their own prophet and believe in stuff other than what's in the Bible and Quran. I guess they are hooped, too, along with Shintoists, Jainists, Confucians, Toaists, Aussie and Kiwi aboriginals, etc.
The whole thing just seems irrational to the max.

Lu:12:47:
And that servant,
which knew his lord's will,
and prepared not himself,
neither did according to his will,
shall be beaten with many stripes.
Lu:12:48:
But he that knew not,
and did commit things worthy of stripes,
shall be beaten with few stripes.
For unto whomsoever much is given,
of him shall be much required:
and to whom men have committed much,
of him they will ask the more.

The stripes are in the form of chastisement as described in Hebrews 11. Those who are not in the first phase are in the 2nd phase.

Stripes? I got a few stripes on a couple blouses, t-shirts, and dresses.

:roll:

Well, that answer solves the mystery. :tard:

This is a hilarious video about a baptism

Kind of off topic but funny nonetheless

lol Yup, funny.

Then shouldn't you limit the scope of your arguments to the stories that are historical rather than start to define the prophecies.

"The cost of passing up the next best choice when making a decision."
Reading the prophecies has no hidden cost other than being labeled a kook by the ones who don't believe in God,

And wasting a lot of time fretting about the future when you should be tending to the present.

and if you disagree with the mass majority of that group you get the heretic label.

Or the just plain "mutjob" label. Or .....

Win-win anyway you look at it. The 2nd choice for me would be to accept something I don't believe in, it might make living with some people a little easier but then that not being throughly convinced part means living with myself would be more difficult. From my pov there is going to be one choice that is more rational than the other.

So believing in a big "if" that hasn't shown any sign of interest in humankind is more rational than getting along with people who don't believe in the same things as you? Exactly what I have been pointing to -----> reason has left the building.

 

[Spade]

So what about those before JC came along.

What about those that have never heard the word

YouTube - ‪Family Guy - It's Jesus Christ!‬‎

 

[GreenFish66]

iITt., is What it is ..

Gotta have faith as we move positively forward forever and ever into the future..Ah man!.Hallelujah!

If there is no Big "G" ...We will create 1 ...Then we will ALL know for sure..

Everything is Energy and Information The rest is recyclable Waste..

Ah chew !...God Bless You ...

Peace

 

[Goober]

YouTube - ‪Family Guy - It's Jesus Christ!‬‎

Did not listen to the video - I believe that the Creator will condemn or not, not on beliefs but on a life lived - Dogma was created by man - belief and knowing what is right and wrong was given by the Creator thru free will.

I hope this clarifies where I stand - I was baptized in the United Church of Canada - But they like every other have their own Dogma.

I at times struggle with the big 10 - not the murdering, not the coveting but others. And yes I fail, and yes i state again, and Yes i talk to God just about every day and many times during the day. i thank him/her for what blessings have been bestowed upon me and my family - and if you knew what health problems I have you would probably thing I was dumb as a BC Pine. i thank the Creator for a Step Daughter - That i have always from day one taken into my heart as my own. I have had people compliment me on this. And I reply - How else could a man look upon this as but their own - To be taken into your heart, care for and protected and helped when needed-

When I see my 2 grandchildren - which I am lucky to say is quite often - When my Daughter tells me I am an awesome Grandfather - when I apologize for all the mistakes I made to her with her growing up - she knows that is from the heart - And does not hold me accountable, she understand what is and is from the heart.

So I am truly blessed in my life.

I could go on but I am truly blessed - Whether it is from Jesus, a Creator or some supreme I am not 100 % positive as it cannot be proven - But i do believe.
I am truly blessed.

So in the end - The life you lead is how you will be judged by God. That does not fit into a lot of the various Dogma that floats around - But it is the best I can do or explain for now.

And what I believe - Do I believe in Jesus - Yes - Do I believe if a God - Yes.

Take it as you will.

 

[GreenFish66]

Well said Goober - I believe ....and when the end comes to each, I believe, All believe...

That is why we still exist ...

 

[Goober]

Well said Goober - I believe ....and when the end comes to each, I believe, All believe....

Greenfish - Thank you - i am not the best at explaining what i believe at times. But that covers it fairly well. I left school quite early in life. My main regret.

And yes i am blessed. As I hope you are as well.

 

[GreenFish66]

Hear Here...Thnx

1 Peace or in Pieces?

Peace

 

[Spade]

Did not listen to the video - I believe that the Creator will condemn or not, not on beliefs but on a life lived - Dogma was created by man - belief and knowing what is right and wrong was given by the Creator thru free will.

I hope this clarifies where I stand - I was baptized in the United Church of Canada - But they like every other have their own Dogma.

I at times struggle with the big 10 - not the murdering, not the coveting but others. And yes I fail, and yes i state again, and Yes i talk to God just about every day and many times during the day. i thank him/her for what blessings have been bestowed upon me and my family - and if you knew what health problems I have you would probably thing I was dumb as a BC Pine. i thank the Creator for a Step Daughter - That i have always from day one taken into my heart as my own. I have had people compliment me on this. And I reply - How else could a man look upon this as but their own - To be taken into your heart, care for and protected and helped when needed-

When I see my 2 grandchildren - which I am lucky to say is quite often - When my Daughter tells me I am an awesome Grandfather - when I apologize for all the mistakes I made to her with her growing up - she knows that is from the heart - And does not hold me accountable, she understand what is and is from the heart.

So I am truly blessed in my life.

I could go on but I am truly blessed - Whether it is from Jesus, a Creator or some supreme I am not 100 % positive as it cannot be proven - But i do believe.
I am truly blessed.

So in the end - The life you lead is how you will be judged by God. That does not fit into a lot of the various Dogma that floats around - But it is the best I can do or explain for now.

And what I believe - Do I believe in Jesus - Yes - Do I believe if a God - Yes.

Take it as you will.

You're a good man, Goober. Each of us should live a good life even if there be no heaven or no hell!

 

[Cliffy]

You're a good man, Goober. Each of us should live a good life even if there be no heaven or no hell!

Are there brownie points for good golf?

 

[Spade]

Are there brownie points for good golf?

The honest golfer walks from tee to green within the rules! And, when he tallies up the score, he can truly say, "I earnt it!"

 

[AnnaG]

Are there brownie points for good golf?

What wouldja do with a pointy brownie anyway?

 

[gerryh]

Well, that answer solves the mystery. :tard:

None of ya's are interested in an answer. Trolling and dissing is all ya's are interested in.