The Battle for This Planet

hermite

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Quoting Dancing Loon: Who are these cold and inhumane people?

Here's one name for you: Rock-e-feller

"The fact that bankers now control national monetary systems in their entirety, under laws where money is introduced only through lending at interest, has resulted in a massive debt pyramid that is teetering on collapse. This "monetarist" system was pioneered by Rockefeller-family funded economists at the University of Chicago. The rub is that when the pyramid comes down and everyone goes bankrupt the banks which have been creating money "out of thin air" will then be able to seize valuable assets for pennies on the dollar, as J.P. Morgan Chase is preparing to do with the businesses owned by Carlyle Capital. Meaningful regulation of the financial industry has been abandoned by government, and any politician that stands in the way, such as Eliot Spitzer, is destroyed."

That's from this article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8450 8O
 

MikeyDB

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The Battle for Planet Earth


Reading the views presented here might lead one to believe that there are two kinds of human beings. One being invests his energy and intellect in shaping events and influencing outcomes that satisfy his personal advantage without regard for the affects of these choices on either the world or the people with whom he shares it. The other kind of being remains a servant and supplicant to those acknowledged as comprising the alternate/ “superior” variety of Homo sapiens.

One a “go-getter”, a person accepting the challenges of wresting an existence from a hostile and often-pernicious dynamic through perseverance insight and rational consideration of the nature of his existence, unprepared to allow the infection of self-delusion to divert the pursuit of power wealth and control. “Self-interest” is this person’s highest virtue and calling while all others are subject to the will of this individual. Enforced through violence when necessary but patient as well, satisfied to allow the seeds of doubt sown through suggestion and cultivated prejudices to grow in the minds of “lesser” men.

When Rene Descartes proposed that existence is a function of thought he was careful (given the times of his “science”…) to offer homage to the “church” and belief structures of that period that held the people of the “civilized world” hostage to mysticism and fantasy. Mysticism and the fantastic certainly “existed” for ancient man and the social organizing structures he established to ensure survival of the (tribe) species. Human sacrifice to “god” and/or “gods” is acknowledged as historical phenomena across the face of this planet.

As equally divisive a concept as a supernatural perfect creator being responsible for the existence of the universe was the notion advanced by “learned-men” who described the nature of human beings as arising from the influences and dynamics of the subconscious, the “ego” and the “id”.

Organisms “driven” by impulse and instinct to behave instead of through acknowledgement of their direct/contact and intimate interrelationship with the extant perceivable environment of their existence, but rather as slaves to appetites and emotions simmering in some never-never region of the subconscious “below” the conscious level. Forever slave to the same hobgoblins and fantasies as Pope Gregory and Dante Alighieri describe in their screeds on the nature of the human beast.

Lust greed gluttony sloth envy wrath and pride.

If we are prepared to acknowledge that we are in fact “driven” by forces or impulses of which we are neither aware nor can control, how are these impulses and influences manifest in our human expression, our human “mosaic”?

Lust….self-indulgent sexual desire.

Forbes Magazine (“bottom-liners” of the first order) suggests that porn-industry estimates of the revenues involved in satisfying mankind’s appetite for salacious entertainment are grossly exaggerated. This pipeline of greed for greed’s-sake suggests that something on the order of a mere 4 billion dollars a year is closer to the actual revenues. This may well be accurate but in a forum where conservatism is next to godliness, there’s always the prudent necessity of abundant latitude applied to anything offered as “fact” by a publication sculpted and engineered to legitimize greed as a noble pursuit.

We wouldn’t look to meteorologists for guidance in considering and understanding human anatomy and we would be fools to imagine that economists have anything beyond the metrics of balance sheets and financial statements as their guide to encapsulating the permutations and capricious excesses of the species they regard as ledger headings and statistical phenomena. This is one of a multitude of convenient “blind-spots” judiciously ignored by the “bottom-line” variety of bottom-feeders.

It’s unfortunate (my opinion) that greater participation and indeed greater concentration on the topic of “intent” wasn’t and isn’t given by people who while appearing to be interested in understanding their world and the maelstrom of dynamics that shape it, remain comfortably separate from an understanding of the impulses shaped by their appetites…by “intent”.

It’s difficult for instance to divorce the “intent” behind presentation of the allure of automobile “romance” from the sexually provocative images and content employed to whet the appetites of a post-adolescent consumer society.

If in fact life mimics art, Meatloaf’s “Paradise by the dashboard lights”…sums up the “intent” behind not only automobile advertising but a plethora of weight-loss, baldness remedies, cosmetics and “male enhancements” that drive the greed-machine of the higher-order Homo sapiens that claim dominance over the rabble.

Greed: “Excessive desire to acquire or possess more (especially more material wealth) than one needs or deserves.”

Who is greedier, the “nine-to-fiver”, the wannabe….who taking advantage of the profit-motivated sub-prime mortgage scheme purchases a house far larger and significantly more expensive to heat and maintain than a more reasonable…more “suited to one’s needs” purchase to provide a home and shelter for his/her ‘loved-ones’….or the individual who salivating after some potential windfall profit-taking as the “real-estate market rises”….brings collapse and mayhem to the “American Dream”….?

Who’s greedier the mortgage con-men and bankers or the conditioned to “excess and Xtreme” consumer?

Who believes that the brand and model of your “car” captures and radiates your personal charisma, or your “power” and “manliness” or your “sexuality and your “prosperity” to the world for all those lesser beings driving the disposable junk of a manufacturing industry that employs planned-obsolescence and unnecessarily complicated mechanics and “advanced-systems” that contribute to the delusion that you drive…..the mobile essence of the American Dream?

Parked behind that shiny “not so much as a scratch on the paint-job” four-wheel drive…off-road testament to the adventurous spirit…the safety-consciousness of the urbanite ahead of you in the drive-through eatery or coffee-shop assembly-line mentality that while idling belches out tons of carbon on a planet filthy from compass point to compass point with the excesses of an unevolved and self-destructive delusional moron who embraces the ludicrousness of the idea that the image presented by his “car” is emblematic of his personality and his “values”….. pride sloth and gluttony with a side-order of greed…..

Who’s responsible….the smarmy automobile salesman who makes your failure to adequately safeguard your family in an over-weight-gas-guzzling juggernaut the lever of guilt that’s needed to influence you to pay for his Lexus or his vacation in the Barbados….. or your own willing victim-mentality that’s already surrendered to the idea that you’re incapable of thinking for yourself?

Maybe you’re getting the picture….

If there are only two types of people in the world…..the people who abrogate their responsibility to think for themselves are the people most responsible for creating this dichotomy.

The world created by the willingly ignorant, capitalized upon by those accepting the mantle of authority from a species too stupid to recognize the precedents to its own extinction.





 

Zzarchov

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Mayers father, Moses -owned a Bank and a Pawnshop they hardly came from the ghetto

Banks in historical context (and most of the world) do not operate like modern Canadian chartered banks.

Owning a pawnshop is hardly criteria for not living the Ghetto.

 

Zzarchov

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They owned ghettos and fed of thier own people like parasites. That's what Zzarchov respects and admires.

Well thank god I have you to think for me, if thats Kosher...

I guess I can just make up stuff you respect and admire? Im to understand you admire Nathaniel Bedford Forest because he was pro-slavery right? WEEE! lying is fun.

Im not sure where coming from the Jew-alley Ghetto and rising to nobility in time when that wasn't truly possible, especially for jews is some kind of evil story.

I guess you would prefer people know their place and didn't try and better their lot in life.
 

Zzarchov

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Quoting Dancing Loon: Who are these cold and inhumane people?

Here's one name for you: Rock-e-feller

"The fact that bankers now control national monetary systems in their entirety, under laws where money is introduced only through lending at interest, has resulted in a massive debt pyramid that is teetering on collapse. This "monetarist" system was pioneered by Rockefeller-family funded economists at the University of Chicago. The rub is that when the pyramid comes down and everyone goes bankrupt the banks which have been creating money "out of thin air" will then be able to seize valuable assets for pennies on the dollar, as J.P. Morgan Chase is preparing to do with the businesses owned by Carlyle Capital. Meaningful regulation of the financial industry has been abandoned by government, and any politician that stands in the way, such as Eliot Spitzer, is destroyed."

That's from this article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8450 8O


From Global Research eh?

The debt culture is not some evil thing. Its an evil thing that people have the willpower of toddlers and burden themselves with debt, but im damn thankful it exists.

Lets look at a world with no debt culture. Right now you have the option to make rational choices about debt.

If you think owning a house (and paying interest) is still a better option than renting from a landlord (and never owning the house).

You can get a house. Without debt culture, you'd have to save up a few hundred grand first (while paying into a landlord). If you want a new car? Cash up front.

If you are smart, the ability to have debt allows you to save vast sums of money. Rather than paying a thousand every season to keep your old gas guzzler going to get to work (And never really saving money) you can get a reliable car and pay off the debt with savings in a year.

Everyone talks about how evil debt is because people over-burden themselves, they never seem to remember what the world was like beforehand, when the wealth gap was so much wider.
 

Colpy

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All of this is coming, and while the US gets their heads filled with the concept of a new president coming in and "Change" for the better, the final deals are already in motion while the rest of the country is distracted with "hope."

Bush has already put in place all of what he needs to retain control after his presidency is over and all it will take is for him to declare a state of emergency just before the elections are to take place and that's that.

why else would Canada and the US agree to allow each other's troops to control each other's towns and cities in a state of emergency? So that the US troops can do what they please to Canadian citizens and Canadian troops can do as they please to US citizens without the militaries contradicting their own country's constitutions and laws..... therefore they can oppress any opposition or protests as they so choose.

There's a lot more to this, but I'll leave it at that for now.

Oh Baloney!

Tell you what.......if Bush exercises any option to executive power after Jan 20, 2009, I will hand over the contents of all my assets to you, and then to a one and a half gainer off a HIGH local bridge into the world famous Reversing Falls.

(shakes head)

Look, now yo've got something to be happy about when Bush becomes dictator for life.

You guys....I hope to God you are really young, and thus have the excuse that your brain stem has not yet become fully connected.

It doesn't you know, until the age of about 25.

Those old Greeks actually were quite wise.....full citizenship and voting rights were awarded at age 30.
 

Lester

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Banks in historical context (and most of the world) do not operate like modern Canadian chartered banks.

Owning a pawnshop is hardly criteria for not living the Ghetto.

It doesn't matter what it's form was he was already wealthy- He Was Not from the GHETTO. You should do your research first then you wouldn't have to backpeddle, which by the way is exactly what your doing.
 

Zzarchov

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Wealthy?

No my friend, he was not. Wealthy IN COMPARISON TOO other people in the Ghetto, but he was not truly wealthy.

Opening a Goldsmith/Moneychanger/Clothing store in the Ghetto does not make you a wealthy person.

He wasn't a hobo, but if you think running a store means you are wealthy, you've never run a small business.
 

lone wolf

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Wealthy?

No my friend, he was not. Wealthy IN COMPARISON TOO other people in the Ghetto, but he was not truly wealthy.

Opening a Goldsmith/Moneychanger/Clothing store in the Ghetto does not make you a wealthy person.

He wasn't a hobo, but if you think running a store means you are wealthy, you've never run a small business.

From where in HELL did you assume ghetto? That's a little streotyped isn't it?

...and sometimes, you're the billy goat.
 
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Lester

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Even if it were in a ghetto( unconfirmed since I can find no references to it's location) where else would you put it?- not next to the wealthy but next to the poor- as a rule people who live in the ghetto don't own the businesses there.
 

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This article sounds excactly like a book I just read called " The Nostradamus Code" it was written by Dr. Michael Rathford based on Nostadamus' Quatrains. I read the whole book but I think the guy is a few fries short of a happy meal, but that's just my opinion. I would tend to think the author of this post has also read this book.
Can we look forward to earthquake terrorism or will we discover the extraterrestrial probe of the "Watchers'"? Time will only tell, and until Ogmios confronts the Anti-Christ and wins we will live rather poorly.
I find predictions like this interesting, who knows, you may be right.
Cheers
 

DurkaDurka

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This article sounds excactly like a book I just read called " The Nostradamus Code" it was written by Dr. Michael Rathford based on Nostadamus' Quatrains. I read the whole book but I think the guy is a few fries short of a happy meal, but that's just my opinion. I would tend to think the author of this post has also read this book.
Can we look forward to earthquake terrorism or will we discover the extraterrestrial probe of the "Watchers'"? Time will only tell, and until Ogmios confronts the Anti-Christ and wins we will live rather poorly.
I find predictions like this interesting, who knows, you may be right.
Cheers

I would tend to think that you have been smoking crack, but i'll give you the benefit of th doubt.
 

darkbeaver

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The Battle for Planet Earth


Reading the views presented here might lead one to believe that there are two kinds of human beings. One being invests his energy and intellect in shaping events and influencing outcomes that satisfy his personal advantage without regard for the affects of these choices on either the world or the people with whom he shares it. The other kind of being remains a servant and supplicant to those acknowledged as comprising the alternate/ “superior” variety of Homo sapiens.

One a “go-getter”, a person accepting the challenges of wresting an existence from a hostile and often-pernicious dynamic through perseverance insight and rational consideration of the nature of his existence, unprepared to allow the infection of self-delusion to divert the pursuit of power wealth and control. “Self-interest” is this person’s highest virtue and calling while all others are subject to the will of this individual. Enforced through violence when necessary but patient as well, satisfied to allow the seeds of doubt sown through suggestion and cultivated prejudices to grow in the minds of “lesser” men.

When Rene Descartes proposed that existence is a function of thought he was careful (given the times of his “science”…) to offer homage to the “church” and belief structures of that period that held the people of the “civilized world” hostage to mysticism and fantasy. Mysticism and the fantastic certainly “existed” for ancient man and the social organizing structures he established to ensure survival of the (tribe) species. Human sacrifice to “god” and/or “gods” is acknowledged as historical phenomena across the face of this planet.

As equally divisive a concept as a supernatural perfect creator being responsible for the existence of the universe was the notion advanced by “learned-men” who described the nature of human beings as arising from the influences and dynamics of the subconscious, the “ego” and the “id”.

Organisms “driven” by impulse and instinct to behave instead of through acknowledgement of their direct/contact and intimate interrelationship with the extant perceivable environment of their existence, but rather as slaves to appetites and emotions simmering in some never-never region of the subconscious “below” the conscious level. Forever slave to the same hobgoblins and fantasies as Pope Gregory and Dante Alighieri describe in their screeds on the nature of the human beast.

Lust greed gluttony sloth envy wrath and pride.

If we are prepared to acknowledge that we are in fact “driven” by forces or impulses of which we are neither aware nor can control, how are these impulses and influences manifest in our human expression, our human “mosaic”?

Lust….self-indulgent sexual desire.

Forbes Magazine (“bottom-liners” of the first order) suggests that porn-industry estimates of the revenues involved in satisfying mankind’s appetite for salacious entertainment are grossly exaggerated. This pipeline of greed for greed’s-sake suggests that something on the order of a mere 4 billion dollars a year is closer to the actual revenues. This may well be accurate but in a forum where conservatism is next to godliness, there’s always the prudent necessity of abundant latitude applied to anything offered as “fact” by a publication sculpted and engineered to legitimize greed as a noble pursuit.

We wouldn’t look to meteorologists for guidance in considering and understanding human anatomy and we would be fools to imagine that economists have anything beyond the metrics of balance sheets and financial statements as their guide to encapsulating the permutations and capricious excesses of the species they regard as ledger headings and statistical phenomena. This is one of a multitude of convenient “blind-spots” judiciously ignored by the “bottom-line” variety of bottom-feeders.

It’s unfortunate (my opinion) that greater participation and indeed greater concentration on the topic of “intent” wasn’t and isn’t given by people who while appearing to be interested in understanding their world and the maelstrom of dynamics that shape it, remain comfortably separate from an understanding of the impulses shaped by their appetites…by “intent”.

It’s difficult for instance to divorce the “intent” behind presentation of the allure of automobile “romance” from the sexually provocative images and content employed to whet the appetites of a post-adolescent consumer society.

If in fact life mimics art, Meatloaf’s “Paradise by the dashboard lights”…sums up the “intent” behind not only automobile advertising but a plethora of weight-loss, baldness remedies, cosmetics and “male enhancements” that drive the greed-machine of the higher-order Homo sapiens that claim dominance over the rabble.

Greed: “Excessive desire to acquire or possess more (especially more material wealth) than one needs or deserves.”

Who is greedier, the “nine-to-fiver”, the wannabe….who taking advantage of the profit-motivated sub-prime mortgage scheme purchases a house far larger and significantly more expensive to heat and maintain than a more reasonable…more “suited to one’s needs” purchase to provide a home and shelter for his/her ‘loved-ones’….or the individual who salivating after some potential windfall profit-taking as the “real-estate market rises”….brings collapse and mayhem to the “American Dream”….?

Who’s greedier the mortgage con-men and bankers or the conditioned to “excess and Xtreme” consumer?

Who believes that the brand and model of your “car” captures and radiates your personal charisma, or your “power” and “manliness” or your “sexuality and your “prosperity” to the world for all those lesser beings driving the disposable junk of a manufacturing industry that employs planned-obsolescence and unnecessarily complicated mechanics and “advanced-systems” that contribute to the delusion that you drive…..the mobile essence of the American Dream?

Parked behind that shiny “not so much as a scratch on the paint-job” four-wheel drive…off-road testament to the adventurous spirit…the safety-consciousness of the urbanite ahead of you in the drive-through eatery or coffee-shop assembly-line mentality that while idling belches out tons of carbon on a planet filthy from compass point to compass point with the excesses of an unevolved and self-destructive delusional moron who embraces the ludicrousness of the idea that the image presented by his “car” is emblematic of his personality and his “values”….. pride sloth and gluttony with a side-order of greed…..

Who’s responsible….the smarmy automobile salesman who makes your failure to adequately safeguard your family in an over-weight-gas-guzzling juggernaut the lever of guilt that’s needed to influence you to pay for his Lexus or his vacation in the Barbados….. or your own willing victim-mentality that’s already surrendered to the idea that you’re incapable of thinking for yourself?

Maybe you’re getting the picture….

If there are only two types of people in the world…..the people who abrogate their responsibility to think for themselves are the people most responsible for creating this dichotomy.

The world created by the willingly ignorant, capitalized upon by those accepting the mantle of authority from a species too stupid to recognize the precedents to its own extinction.

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The world created by the willingly ignorant, capitalized upon by those accepting the mantle of authority from a species too stupid to recognize the precedents to its own extinction."

That mantle of authority must be very weak in reality. This is why they have dumbed down education, in maintenance of that ignorance. Thier security depends on continued maintenance of mass ignorance through mechanisms like religion and pop-culture. They have to preserve function while preserving ignorance and it has to be balanced carefully. We're no good to them if we can't grease the machines and if we learn to much we threaten them.
 

I think not

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Bush has already put in place all of what he needs to retain control after his presidency is over and all it will take is for him to declare a state of emergency just before the elections are to take place and that's that.

Unbelievable power this Bush guy must have, he "stole" the elections when he wasn't in power, he "stole" the elections when he was in power, he will undoubtly be in "control" for God know how long when he is long gone from power, but he was compeletely incapable of keeping the 9/11 conspiracy under a tight lid. :roll:
 

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"Bush" is a symbol. Like the "Pope"....the Catholic Church is responsible for the denial of birth control education and condoms across a continent of people ravaged by AIDS....but the "catch-all" phrase is ..."It's the Pope" that's doing this...

Bush is epitome of "democratic process"! People are convinced that they "need" someone who's "like-them"....somone who's not an elitist .... someone who can be videoed while driving his pickup and burning some dead beef carcass over charcoal...just like me and my neighbors... a "regular guy"!

I have to give credit to GWB's "keepers", other than those times when he demonstrates his sense of rythm and facility at mastering the names of other diplomats and other nations, pasting two or three words together on his own and calling it a speech..... his PR folk have allowed this moron to reflect exactly what the American people want. Someone just like they are!

After all....the story goes that GWB was a "victim"...right? He didn't know that Saddam Hussein didn't have stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction....he simply trusted the advisors and people around him.... He had no idea that the congress was taking funds away from infrastructure maintenance to funnel into the "urgent necessity" of invading Iraq and perpetuating this fraud of America's "war on terror"..... right?

If we listen carefully to the people who've insulated GWB from anything even remotely resembling focused scrutiny....why....George was/is just a simple man who got some bad advice and screwed your nation into the earth....

An incompetent moron who the people of America clutch to their bosoms as their figurative mentor and national leader.....an example of how rich in diversity and how focused and knowledgeable the people of America actually are.....

:)
 

lone wolf

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Unbelievable power this Bush guy must have, he "stole" the elections when he wasn't in power, he "stole" the elections when he was in power, he will undoubtly be in "control" for God know how long when he is long gone from power, but he was compeletely incapable of keeping the 9/11 conspiracy under a tight lid. :roll:

Moral: You never let an idiot in on part of a secret:lol:

Woof!