The astronomers mistake about Jupiter

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All of them wrong,
This only is your insisting.
it's the moon and to a lesser extent the sun that cause the tides.
How can the seawater be under the influence of the Moon, while Earth is nearer to the seawater and Earth has the big gravity?
By your own admission, Al Hilly had no formal education, which is one explanation for why he got so much wrong.
If he gets no formal education, then he explains more correct than those having the formal education... what will this indicate: inspiration by God giving him more understanding than others.
Of course you disbelievers and atheists will not admit it and will keep to your formal learning without minding and realizing.
There's no similar explanation for you, with all the resources of the Internet available to you, being so wrong about so much. You *are* educated, or claim to be, at least by whatever standards apply in the Islamic theocracy you appear to live in.
This is what you think of yourself to be better than me .... in the Quran, the disbelievers boast to believers that they have a better livelihood.
While I am in a good condition and praise and thanks to God Most Merciful Who taught and provided for me.
It is influenced by the moon, just not very much. It's influenced by you standing in it too, by a very tiny but calculable amount.
I have just replied to this.
 

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I knew you'd say that.

Why would they fake it?
I don't say they faked it, but 'modified' it
They do it to explain what they understand; it is only to show others their theory: like the teacher using the demonstration tools.
In addition, astronomers have seen the atmosphere of Jupiter which is larger than Earth by so many times: and of course such atmosphere has its storms and clouds and currents.
 
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How can the seawater be under the influence of the Moon, while Earth is nearer to the seawater and Earth has the big gravity?
Having to ask a question like that just underlines how much you don't understand. All of the Earth is under the influence of the Moon, there are tides in the land too but because it's much more rigid than the seawater its response is much smaller. But it's measurable. The Earth does that to the Moon too, that's why we see only one side of the Moon now. The internal friction of that tidal bulge being dragged around as it rotates has slowed the Moon's rotation to the point where it matches its orbital period.
If he gets no formal education, then he explains more correct than those having the formal education... what will this indicate: inspiration by God giving him more understanding than others.
Right, you're claiming ignorance is better than knowledge. That explains a lot too.
This is what you think of yourself to be better than me ....
You're projecting. Reality is the other way around. You consider yourself to be better than all the people here that you variously label as atheists, Zionists, disbelievers, and other things, because you believe yourself to be divinely guided. And if I've correctly understood some of your other claims, you believe the rest of us are divinely misguided, deliberately deceived by god because he doesn't like us. It'll be a frosty day in Hell before I show any respect to a deity who does that to his creations.
 

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All of the Earth is under the influence of the Moon, there are tides in the land too but because it's much more rigid than the seawater its response is much smaller. But it's measurable. The Earth does that to the Moon too, that's why we see only one side of the Moon now. The internal friction of that tidal bulge being dragged around as it rotates has slowed the Moon's rotation to the point where it matches its orbital period.
This is what we have been told in our formal education, and I had been convinced about before; but if it is not so correct? Don't you think it about?
I see it more logical that Moon cannot pull the seawater in spite of the bigger gravity of the Earth, which will certainly have more influence and will restrain the water.
Right, you're claiming ignorance is better than knowledge.
I never say this; you understand it like that.

This is in the Quran 39: 9, which means:
(Say, [Mohammed, to them]: "Can they be equal: those who know and those who know not?"
But only men of understanding may reflect.
)
It means: Is the knowledgeable and the ignorant equal in your sight?

I tell you this: the natural observation is there, but your explanation may not be the true one, which you describe as scientific and infallible.
About this point you are so rigid and cannot be moved.

You're projecting. Reality is the other way around. You consider yourself to be better than all the people here that you variously label as atheists, Zionists, disbelievers, and other things, because you believe yourself to be divinely guided. And if I've correctly understood some of your other claims, you believe the rest of us are divinely misguided, deliberately deceived by god because he doesn't like us.

You did not grasp my idea: you said in another site and in another thread as I remember: you said boasting: "I am much better than you," or "you cannot reach to my livelihood measures" or some other similar words, by which you mean the living standards; and it seems you do not read the Quran ayat which I bring as a witness,
and so I brought the aya of the Quran as a witness: which means that disbelievers say to believers: we are better than you in our living standards! so if you are truly guided by God, then He would have given you a better livelihood than ours!
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/19.htm#a19_73

On the other hand, had I considered you better than me, in ideology, I would have followed your theories and your disbelief and atheism and idolatry and non- Quran programs.. which is impossible by God's will, or as you say: God willing.
 
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As I said: the natural observation is there: it is true: the tides are true.
But whatever strenuous they try to explain, their explanation is defective and almost is not correct.
This is what they know.. they are not cheating us.. but they are wrong in their explanation.

In this video, their explanation of 2 high tides which they ascribe to Moon and that it pulls the Earth by its claimed gravity: is wrong in fact.
Although they have told us in school about their explanation: which means: I know what they say, but they are wrong.
 

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It's not up to you, me, or the King of Botswana to cry about, whine about or change the path of the Zionists. That's for God to deal with. I'm sure you'd be far more happier if you let God follow through with his plan for the Zionists instead allowing your hate of Zionists to consume your soul.