The astronomers mistake about Jupiter

Blackleaf

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Earth is five times denser than Jupiter.

However, Jupiter is 318 times more massive than Earth, 2.5 times more massive than all the other planets in the Solar System put together and a thousand times less massive than the Sun.
 

Blackleaf

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Not convincing, in spite of the skilled image drawing.
Who said this was the genuine reason for what you call locking of the Moon?
This is what you suggest (or they suggest in fact), and you take their suggestion as a fact: it pleases you more than our words, which you dislike.

Not convincing, in spite of the skilled image drawing.
Who said this was the genuine reason for what you call locking of the Moon?
This is what you suggest (or they suggest in fact), and you take their suggestion as a fact: it pleases you more than our words, which you dislike.

Well science has proven it. It doesn't matter whether you're convinced or not.

 

Dexter Sinister

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A noble effort Blackleaf, I applaud your patience and endurance. Several of us have been around the block a few times with this guy, as Torch light and his former personae of eanassir and selfsame (which he denies being of course), and he's impervious to facts and logic. He's got his religious references and they trump everything else.
 

Blackleaf

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Also, you could fit all the other seven planets in the Solar System between Earth and the Moon...

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Torch light

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Well science has proven it. It doesn't matter whether you're convinced or not.


This proves my words that you take this as fact, and it pleases you to do so.
If you see the video, you will know it is a ridiculous explanation, although you describe it as scientific: that Moon was oval, and who says it is right, and now it is spherical or about? And it took 1000 years ... etc.
Why not the rest of the objects: moons and planets in the solar system .. not locked in this way?
 

Blackleaf

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A noble effort Blackleaf, I applaud your patience and endurance. Several of us have been around the block a few times with this guy, as Torch light and his former personae of eanassir and selfsame (which he denies being of course), and he's impervious to facts and logic. He's got his religious references and they trump everything else.

I don't mind it. I enjoy showing him he's wrong.
 

Torch light

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A noble effort Blackleaf, I applaud your patience and endurance. Several of us have been around the block a few times with this guy, as Torch light and his former personae of eanassir and selfsame (which he denies being of course), and he's impervious to facts and logic. He's got his religious references and they trump everything else.
Now the rosary has been complete --- according to a proverb with us.

So these are facts and logic to you.
It may be this Dexter Sinister and the Blackleaf are one person.
I doubted this, and mostly it may be true: they are the same person.
 

Blackleaf

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This proves my words that you take this as fact, and it pleases you to do so.
If you see the video, you will know it is a ridiculous explanation, although you describe it as scientific: that Moon was oval, and who says it is right, and now it is spherical or about? And it took 1000 years ... etc.
Why not the rest of the objects: moons and planets in the solar system .. not locked in this way?

Both Earth and the Moon are very, very, very slightly oval shaped.

Because of Earth's gravitational pull, the lunar surface facing Earth is raised 20 cms into a bulge, and there is a corresponding bulge on the far side of the Moon.
 

Torch light

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Both Earth and the Moon are very, very, very slightly oval shaped.

Because of Earth's gravitational pull, the lunar surface facing Earth is raised 20 cms into a bulge, and there is a corresponding bulge on the far side of the Moon.
If any ovality of Earth, it is not because of Moon, but because of the Earth spinning around itself, so the equatorial became somewhat longer than the transpolar diameter.
 

Blackleaf

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Why not the rest of the objects: moons and planets in the solar system .. not locked in this way?

There are 218 known moons in the Solar System.

34 of them, including the Moon and Mars's two moons Phobos and Deimos, are tidally locked to their planets.

Another 25 of them MAY be tidally locked.

As well as one of Pluto's moons Charon being tidally locked to Pluto, Pluto is also tidally locked to Charon.
 

Blackleaf

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If any ovality of Earth, it is not because of Moon, but because of the Earth spinning around itself, so the equatorial became somewhat longer than the transpolar diameter.

No it's because of the gravitational pull of the Moon.

Earth is 27 miles wider at the Equator than pole-to-pole, a difference which is close to 1/300 of the diameter. If Earth were scaled down to a globe with a diameter of 1 metre at the Equator, that difference would be 3 millimetres.

Because of Earth's equatorial bulge, Mount Chimborazo in Ecuador is the closest place on Earth to the Sun.

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Jinentonix

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Not convincing, in spite of the skilled image drawing.
Who said this was the genuine reason for what you call locking of the Moon?
This is what you suggest (or they suggest in fact), and you take their suggestion as a fact: it pleases you more than our words, which you dislike.
Good grief you fool, go look at the moon every night. It's the same side facing us every single time. That's called tidal lock. It's called simple observation which beats the hell out of the uneducated, ignorant words of your foolish religious "scholars".
 
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Jinentonix

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This proves my words that you take this as fact, and it pleases you to do so.
If you see the video, you will know it is a ridiculous explanation, although you describe it as scientific: that Moon was oval, and who says it is right, and now it is spherical or about? And it took 1000 years ... etc.
Why not the rest of the objects: moons and planets in the solar system .. not locked in this way?
Mercury is in tidal lock with the Sun and there are several moons that are in tidal lock with their host planets, The universe is a chaotic place and not everything is nice and clockwork like the fundamental religitards like to believe.
I mean if you can't figure out basic shit lord only knows how you fools interpret black holes, quasars, pulsars, neutron stars and magnetars.
 

Blackleaf

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Mercury is in tidal lock with the Sun and there are several moons that are in tidal lock with their host planets, The universe is a chaotic place and not everything is nice and clockwork like the fundamental religitards like to believe.
I mean if you can't figure out basic shit lord only knows how you fools interpret black holes, quasars, pulsars, neutron stars and magnetars.

He probably thinks that the Moon is a holographic projection onto the underside of the filament dome.
 

Torch light

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He probably thinks that the Moon is a holographic projection onto the underside of the filament dome.
This proves you have not read the book The Universe and the Quran
It tells many things about the universe and the Quran ayat concerning the universe.
Nothing like holographic... or filament dome!? Only this is according to your imagination, as I said: this is your constant attitude in fact.

My appreciation of this book increases more and more; see this in reply to some rigid-minded people:
The sky (or heaven)
 

Torch light

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Not everything said by astronomers and sceintists is wrong. But there are some of their weird postulations: some members here call it science and that science proved all these!!
So you tell me what astronomers say; while certainly, I, like you, know some of what they say.

Some of the weird concepts of astronomers:
This is of course because these astronomical objects are far away from us on Earth. Afterward, they will correct their mistakes... scientifically of course.

Like their concepts about Jupiter: they say it is the biggest planet, while truly it is big, but in fact not the biggest, as indicated by its site in the middle of the planets: there are Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune behind it; so if it was the biggest, it should be the farthest.
And why should Jupiter take its position.. or do you claim the planets are situated haphazardly in their orbits around the Sun?

Another point: astronomers claim it is gaseous: how can it be gaseous and have an atmosphere?
Certainly, it is a big planet, but not to the extent of that they say, and it has a tremendous atmosphere, which gave them such false concept as being a gaseous planet, and they considered it has a low density: see all these are disconnected and disharmonized data.
Why should any planet be gaseous? No, all the planets have the same origin and have about the same nature or like to each other, with some differences of course.

Moreover, astronomers have done mistakes (not deliberate of course) about its day and night, while they are almost correct about its year, which they counted for the completion of the circling of Jupiter around the Sun.
why the planets take different time to orbit the sun
 

Blackleaf

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Not everything said by astronomers and sceintists is wrong. But there are some of their weird postulations: some members here call it science and that science proved all these!!
So you tell me what astronomers say; while certainly, I, like you, know some of what they say.

Some of the weird concepts of astronomers:
This is of course because these astronomical objects are far away from us on Earth. Afterward, they will correct their mistakes... scientifically of course.

Like their concepts about Jupiter: they say it is the biggest planet, while truly it is big, but in fact not the biggest, as indicated by its site in the middle of the planets: there are Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune behind it; so if it was the biggest, it should be the farthest.
And why should Jupiter take its position.. or do you claim the planets are situated haphazardly in their orbits around the Sun?

Another point: astronomers claim it is gaseous: how can it be gaseous and have an atmosphere?
Certainly, it is a big planet, but not to the extent of that they say, and it has a tremendous atmosphere, which gave them such false concept as being a gaseous planet, and they considered it has a low density: see all these are disconnected and disharmonized data.
Why should any planet be gaseous? No, all the planets have the same origin and have about the same nature or like to each other, with some differences of course.

Moreover, astronomers have done mistakes (not deliberate of course) about its day and night, while they are almost correct about its year, which they counted for the completion of the circling of Jupiter around the Sun.
why the planets take different time to orbit the sun

Can you post a photo of Jupiter's rocky surface?