WE had a couple of AMC EAGLES. Best SUV on the market. But figuring out what parts you needed was a real pain.
Tesla's electric cars aren't as green as you might think
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Like I said...........AMC outsourced at lot of stuff.....................................
and it made for problems tracking which you needed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The usual HOID NONSENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As I have already said- the AMC engines were great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was the wiring that caused issues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the lack of standard transmissions in Gremlins and Pacers did not help..........................................
and that same lack of fuel efficient standard transmissions in other Detroit iron did not help.......................................
And of course Toyota is STILL HAVING Corrosion problems with their vehicles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A few years back Toyota had a recall of Tundra full sized pickups.........................and they would REPLACE THE ENTIRE VEHICLE FRAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IF YOU HAD RUST HOLES BIGGER THAN GRAPES in the frame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the rust holes in your Tundra frames were SMALLER than grapes then they would just paint it for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My relative had a Gran Torino with the 351 / 8 cylinder engine......................................
and the engine was fabulous..................................
but it was one of the infamous Rusty Fords...................................
built with salvaged steel from Japan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But the Torino body got so rusted out that you could not put things in the trunk because they would fall through the holes and end up on the street!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the rust got so bad that it affected the Torino wiring as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you turned on the head lights then the radio would play as well..........................
Put on a turn signal and the headlights would blink on and off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But Hoid wouldnt know any of this............................................
because he is focused on his electric TOY cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The ones that will be scorned by collectors in years to come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nobody has asked much about electrolytic action in older Teslas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The reaction when high voltage and moist environment and dis-similar metals come in contact can be spectacular- and BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is reason to suspect that older Teslas may be FORCED off the road once corrosion gets bad.................
meaning an old Tesla WILL NOT reach the age and mileage of gas powered cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess the battery cases of Teslas are made with a mix of steel for strength and plastic for water proofing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We all know that if Lithium comes in contact with air it WILL IGNITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And that may happen with an old battery case where the plastic becomes brittle and cracks and lets the steel case corrode!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who would wish to risk a battery fire?????????????????????????
Or a major voltage shock from a worn Tesla electrical system?????????????????????????????
If the gas tank in your old car leaks.............................................
it robs you of fuel economy but it aint likely to either BURN or electrocute you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tesla cannot make such a claim for their power source!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tesla has not been on the market long enough for us to know how they will perform as they age and corrode!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tesla DOES have ONE advantage thy can use....................................
there has been a LOT of rust proofing improvements that were made since the days of the infamous Rusty Fords!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or maybe not...........................................
Tesla batteries are optimistically predicted to last ten years in standard commuting trips....................................
But what happens when the battery needs REPLACING??????????????????
With the battery being by far the most COSTLY PART OF A TEN YEAR OLD CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will it be worth while to put a COSTLY new battery into a rusty old Tesla?????????????????????
Getting a new battery apparently costs as much or more than getting a new gasoline engine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How many 11 year old Teslas will BE JUNKED because the cost of the new battery IS TOO HIGH??????????????????
And Ontari-owe Ministry of Transport tells us that the average gas car on our roads is now 11 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The odds of Tesla being able to boast of a fleet of that age and mileage ARE LOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But HOID does not want to discuss ANY of this stuff...........................
because the answers would make his beloved LIE-berals LOOK EVEN WORSE than they already do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Driving a motor vehilce is an expensive business at any time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And LIE-berals want to make it even more costly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For their own SELFISH REASONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The last one I had was 12 years ago and it was 20 years old then. The problem was that Chrysler took over AMC and didn't make any more parts. THe cars were advanced for their time.
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/03/2...low-of-his-new-tesla-solar-roof-tile-install/
tesla solar roofs
this makes perfect sense. The amount of solar energy being absorbed by roofs could probably power everything we want to do.
tesla solar roofs
this makes perfect sense. The amount of solar energy being absorbed by roofs could probably power everything we want to do.
Hoid does not care for logic or truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He wants ONLY VOTES for LIE-berals and GRAVY for civil service union Hogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And he supports LIE-beral efforts to FORCE Cdns OFF THE ROAD and onto grossly overloaded and worn out public transit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Assuming LIE-beral carbon crap and trade tax SCAMS have spared SOME OF our job so a few of us actually need to travel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The LIE-beral future involves having us all line up politely and quietly at the Homeless Hilton for our daily meal of Dandelion Greens since the environment - along with Food, Shelter, Clothing AND GRAVY are RESERVED FOR LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All other Cdns are DISPOSABLE in the Brave New Economy that LIE-berals are building !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is why LIE-berals can tell us the economy IS BOOMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because IT IS...................FOR THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The rest of us just do not count!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TS, this reply makes no sense to me. Your 4 comments don't follow from the 4 attitudes listed by the OP. Those are just opinions held by some people the OP chooses to call deniers - which in itself makes no sense because attitudes 2-4 actually acknowledge that warming exists.
1. (It isn't happening.) You say "The earth has been warmer in the past": - Proving what exactly; that warming can be caused by other than human activity? So what? You think that means human activity can't affect it - Where's the evidence for that?
2. (It wasn't human-caused.) You say "It is mostly #2 that is the problem." Do you mean it's a problem that some people think it's not human caused? I'd agree with you there; I do think it's at least partly caused by humans.
3. (#3 There's nothing we can do about it) You say .."# 3 the plan is to tax certain countries into poverty" ..etc. So you think that politicians are shifting wealth from poor to rich nations because some people think nothing can be done about climate change? I don't see the connection.
4. (It's too late.) You said "it is never too late to enforce birth control" - so you agree there's a 'man-made' climate problem that needs a solution. But I have a couple (or more) problems with your suggestion for fixing things. The first is that I can't imagine any practical way of enforcing global or near-global birth control. The second is that I see the problems - warming, pollution and depletion of resources - arising from more than one human habit:
- Excessive procreation (yes.)
- Over consumption in pursuit of ease & comfort.
- Over consumption in pursuit of excitement, 'happiness.'
- And maybe a few more
I wouldn't predict that humans are going to change any of these, to an extent or quickly enough to seriously slow the degradation of our ecosystems.
There is definately a man made pollution problem but CO2 isnt it. The problem is all the toxic shit we dump in the air and water for no reason.TS, this reply makes no sense to me. Your 4 comments don't follow from the 4 attitudes listed by the OP. Those are just opinions held by some people the OP chooses to call deniers - which in itself makes no sense because attitudes 2-4 actually acknowledge that warming exists.
1. (It isn't happening.) You say "The earth has been warmer in the past": - Proving what exactly; that warming can be caused by other than human activity? So what? You think that means human activity can't affect it - Where's the evidence for that?
2. (It wasn't human-caused.) You say "It is mostly #2 that is the problem." Do you mean it's a problem that some people think it's not human caused? I'd agree with you there; I do think it's at least partly caused by humans.
3. (#3 There's nothing we can do about it) You say .."# 3 the plan is to tax certain countries into poverty" ..etc. So you think that politicians are shifting wealth from poor to rich nations because some people think nothing can be done about climate change? I don't see the connection.
4. (It's too late.) You said "it is never too late to enforce birth control" - so you agree there's a 'man-made' climate problem that needs a solution. But I have a couple (or more) problems with your suggestion for fixing things. The first is that I can't imagine any practical way of enforcing global or near-global birth control. The second is that I see the problems - warming, pollution and depletion of resources - arising from more than one human habit:
- Excessive procreation (yes.)
- Over consumption in pursuit of ease & comfort.
- Over consumption in pursuit of excitement, 'happiness.'
- And maybe a few more
I wouldn't predict that humans are going to change any of these, to an extent or quickly enough to seriously slow the degradation of our ecosystems.
If you believe that human activity is causing globull warming then obviously the solution is to cut the human population. Quite simply we cant keep increasing the population without using up more resources and putting a strain on all other species.Cutting resource developement in Canada is not going to cut the demand or prevent other countries from providing the required goods. Often without the environmental controls or the standard of living we have. Same as outsourcing manufacturing isn't going to cut pollution on a global scale. In fact it adds to pollution because the third world countries we contract to do the dirty work don't have environmental standards.
As for the wealth transfer it is going from wealthy countries like Canada and the US to third world shit holes under the guise of cap & trade. It does nothing to cut pollution.
"Third world shit holes"? You've joined the Trump team.
Most of what you say above reinforces my opinion that the planet is going down the tubes and even if it were possible to stop it, nothing really significant will happen till it's too late - If at all.
I see no way of imposing Big Birth Control on the populace. Even if the world population could be reduced to a fraction of its present level I have no faith in the idea that it wouldn't find ways to joyfully ramp up its consumption and pollution levels.
There are people on this planet living an 1800s existence but they have smart phones.
Some want us to revert back, others want us to pay for them to catch up to us but most just pretend to give a shit and go about their lives.
Some want us to revert back, others want us to pay for them to catch up to us but most just pretend to give a shit and go about their lives.
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TS, this reply makes no sense to me. Your 4 comments don't follow from the 4 attitudes listed by the OP. Those are just opinions held by some people the OP chooses to call deniers - which in itself makes no sense because attitudes 2-4 actually acknowledge that warming exists.
1. (It isn't happening.) You say "The earth has been warmer in the past": - Proving what exactly; that warming can be caused by other than human activity? So what? You think that means human activity can't affect it - Where's the evidence for that?
2. (It wasn't human-caused.) You say "It is mostly #2 that is the problem." Do you mean it's a problem that some people think it's not human caused? I'd agree with you there; I do think it's at least partly caused by humans.
3. (#3 There's nothing we can do about it) You say .."# 3 the plan is to tax certain countries into poverty" ..etc. So you think that politicians are shifting wealth from poor to rich nations because some people think nothing can be done about climate change? I don't see the connection.
4. (It's too late.) You said "it is never too late to enforce birth control" - so you agree there's a 'man-made' climate problem that needs a solution. But I have a couple (or more) problems with your suggestion for fixing things. The first is that I can't imagine any practical way of enforcing global or near-global birth control. The second is that I see the problems - warming, pollution and depletion of resources - arising from more than one human habit:
- Excessive procreation (yes.)
- Over consumption in pursuit of ease & comfort.
- Over consumption in pursuit of excitement, 'happiness.'
- And maybe a few more
I wouldn't predict that humans are going to change any of these, to an extent or quickly enough to seriously slow the degradation of our ecosystems.
"Excessive Procreation" ...................the nitwit raves????????????????????????????
How about you get out there and ORDER all Muslim males to report to the nearest vasectomy clinic for sterilization!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The average Cdn male sires 1.6 kids in his life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With the average Muslim male siring 4-6 kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And VIBC raves about "over consumption in pursuit of ease and comfort"????????????????????????
WTF?????????????????????????????
Does that mean we get to send all the Muslims BACK TO Syria because Canada is too comfortable and it will not be good for their souls to live here in this land of conspicuous consumption????????????????????
And.............VIBC is worried about "over consumption in pursuit of happiness"???????????????????
GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess we must FORBID the Muslim kids who came here from ever playing hockey??????????????????????
And that means NO VIDEO GAMES for them EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RIGHT???????????????????????
And.............VIBC MIGHT have a few more "insights" to share with us???????????????????????
Please SHARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I NEED THE LAUGHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are probably right. However there is no other way to cut human consumption except by cutting the number of humans.
Oh how PATHETIC is the reasoning of VIBC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VIBC has the immature spiteful nature of a sullen teen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is offended by my use of the phrase "third world pest holes'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yet.........................VIBC does not seem to understand what it is that prompts an African to jam into a leaky boat and try to cross an ocean in an effort to get to a country where the toilets flush and the lights are on and good schooling for the kids is always available!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And VIBC does not understand why an unemployed Guatemalan would try to cross the deserts lining the Rio Grande in an effort to find relatively safe haven living in a Los Angeles SLUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And THERE IS THE KEY POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MILLIONS of illegals would rather live a fugitive life in a Yankee SLUM than be bothered walking freely on the streets of their home country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VIBC and his anti white pals have no argument to counter these facts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They simply and glibly BLAME WHITES for any and all problems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And of course the most famous anti white LIE is that United States is to blame for Cuban poverty simply because United States refused to trade with the VICIOUS Soviet Castro regime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The LIE centres on the fact that Cuba HAD ALL of South America to trade with.......................................
as well as the option of trading with the REST OF THE PLANET....................excepting those Yankees of course.........................
IF ONLY the BANKRUPT CUBAN SOVIET ECONOMY could make anything that other people WANTED to buy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But sadly the Cuban pesthole ran true to Soviet type and produced NOTHING of value!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The ONLY thing Cuba has to sell is its sunny tropical beaches.......................................
and Soviet goofs CANNOT claim to have created the beaches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the Cuban Soviets simply took over and nationalized the hotels that had existed BEFORE the revolution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Cuban Soviet mess was so bad that about 20 years back - Toronto (Red) Star newspaper advised Cdns vacationing in sunny Cuba NOT to tip Cuban hotel workers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes- Red Star told us there was NO REASON to give Cubans cash because there IS NOTHING TO BUY IN THE SOVIET PARADISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Red Star recommended TAKING CANS OF FOOD to Cuba and handing that out instead of cash tips!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because the typical daily food ration in the Soviet Paradise was PERILOUSLY CLOSE TO STARVATION LEVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes- in the middle of the Cold War- with the Cuban Soviet Regime at the height of its power............................................
the TROPICAL ISLAND of Cuba -which was warm enough to produce two or three CROPS PER YEAR off each field........................
COULD NOT FEED ITS PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AS RUSSIANS, Chinese and now Cubans have discovered the hard way...............................
if you want LOTS of food production then you MUST HAVE CAPITALISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In the last days of Glasnost and Peristroika under Mikail Gorbachov........................................
the Russian old folks - working on their little allotments of vegetable gardens ..........................................
produced MORE FOOD -- FOR capitalist profit-- than ALL the Russian Soviet Collective farms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And those old Babushkas did it without a huge outlay of machinery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah- a bunch of Grannies with shovels produced MORE POTATOES than the VAST Collective farms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And in spite of the bluster of Soviet leaders.....................how galling it must have been for them to know that every autumn..................
ONE THIRD of all the infantry units in the entire vaunted Red Army had to be sent off to dig up potatoes on the Collective Farms!!!!!!!!
And that Soviet Farm Aid NEEDED most of the truck fleet of the Red Army!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Soviet methods for producing ANYTHING are SO BAD that if the army had not been used to pick crops in the
autumn.................................then the crops would have ROTTED in the ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and then Russia would have STARVED BY SPRING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Imagine being a Soviet general planning a war .......................................
while fully aware that most of your critical transport and much of your infantry will need to CALL A TRUCE till the crops are harvested!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And these ECONOMIC IDIOTS saw fit to CLAIM SUPERIORITY OVER US????????????????????????????
That phrase "third world pestholes" is THE POLITE DESCRIPTION of most of the third world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Human consumption has declined in many many areas with no decline in population.
Of course there are ways but I believe not enough will be done till it's too late to prevent catastrophe.
That's when population, consumption & human-caused pollution will drop, maybe to zero.
Oh there you go again VIBC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are WHINING like a 15 year old drama Queen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The world is ending!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The LIE-beral sky is falling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Common sense and logic are making a comeback!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go clean your room now and maybe Mom will let you play doomsday video games after dinner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Ame...What-s-behind-a-decline-in-drinking-worldwide
I notice drinking is down.
Humans consuming less alcohol
I notice drinking is down.
Humans consuming less alcohol