Teachers' strike No...Parents' strike Yes....

Serryah

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and if the answer is "yes"?




Now this is when you come back and tell me that the answer is never Yes and parents really aren't capable of "parenting their kids properly and NEED to have others do it for them. :roll:

Rather than wait for the stupid replies and defence of the new "sex ed", HERE is the main reason we have problems with teen pregnancies, hint, it ain't because of a lack of "sex ed".


Why teen pregnancy is on the rise again in Canada (and spiking in these provinces) - The Globe and Mail

Well Gerryh, seeing as my parents were, thankfully, one of those 'yes' parents, that kind'a makes your assumption pretty, well, stupid. I remember mom getting us a book - from our local library no less - made for kids to teach the body parts and the 'basic' idea that sex was to make babies. So yes, I DO think parents can and do teach their kids and the tools ARE out there, but sadly there are too many more who DON'T, and it's mostly for those parents this should cover. If you can't handle "the talk", then someone has to pick up YOUR lack in being a parent (and yes, being a parent means talking about the icky stuff, like sex and gender issues and "why do boys have a thing and I don't?"). Personally, I think it's great this is forcing parents to actually step up and protest. Later, when their kids have issues in one way or another, they can ask their parents "Why did you stop me from learning about this!?" Again, what is so wrong with giving kids the information they need to understand not just their own bodies, but what might be going on with other kids as well?
 

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I love the whole "parents and only parents should teach kids what they need to know" thing. The only qualification needed to be a parent is the ability to f*ck. Brain dead people can be parents. No, I mean literally, medically brain dead. Obviously the people to guide the next generation.
 

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I have a kid who's THAT CLOSE to having his teachers walk. It's like the snow day that never comes.
 

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Just the religious freaks that hate gays, ignore them and let them home school their kids about how Jebus put the dinosaur bones in the ground to test us.
 

gerryh

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Well Gerryh, seeing as my parents were, thankfully, one of those 'yes' parents, that kind'a makes your assumption pretty, well, stupid. I remember mom getting us a book - from our local library no less - made for kids to teach the body parts and the 'basic' idea that sex was to make babies. So yes, I DO think parents can and do teach their kids and the tools ARE out there, but sadly there are too many more who DON'T, and it's mostly for those parents this should cover. If you can't handle "the talk", then someone has to pick up YOUR lack in being a parent (and yes, being a parent means talking about the icky stuff, like sex and gender issues and "why do boys have a thing and I don't?"). Personally, I think it's great this is forcing parents to actually step up and protest. Later, when their kids have issues in one way or another, they can ask their parents "Why did you stop me from learning about this!?" Again, what is so wrong with giving kids the information they need to understand not just their own bodies, but what might be going on with other kids as well?




That's right. There are plenty of resources out there for parents to do THEIR job. We had a book that was called "where did I come from" that was geared for kids from 4-12 yrs old. Great book. Made it nice and easy to understand. Stressed that sex was for when you "love" someone. Explained what happens, how the baby develops, and how it is born. Explained copulation and orgasms, sperm and egg.


What I object to, is the obvious trivialization of sex. It seems to me, that what todays "sex ed" does is promote sex amongst teens and younger by explaining the hows in iintimitate detail when they are far too young. how to use lubricants for **** sex. They introduce fetishes. Yet they don't stress the consequences, both physical and mental of having sex when one is a teen or younger. They do a great job of telling them how wonderful it is, and how good it can feel, but not the fact that pregnancy is a REAL possibility no matter what contraceptives they use and how having sex too soon can be psychologically damaging not to mention the psychological damage a pregnancy or abortion can have on their immature minds.


This reminds me of when the schools decided to teach the kids that they had "rights" without teaching them that there are real responsibilities and possible consequences for those "rights". Once again I see a half a$$ job being done.

and...... if you're going to teach these kids how to get pregnant, then how about teaching them to be good parents then. Why only do half the job.
 

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and if the answer is "yes"?




Now this is when you come back and tell me that the answer is never Yes and parents really aren't capable of "parenting their kids properly and NEED to have others do it for them. :roll:

Rather than wait for the stupid replies and defence of the new "sex ed", HERE is the main reason we have problems with teen pregnancies, hint, it ain't because of a lack of "sex ed".


Why teen pregnancy is on the rise again in Canada (and spiking in these provinces) - The Globe and Mail


"Teenage girls are more likely to get pregnant when they have fewer education or employment opportunities to postpone child-bearing for."

hint read your link
 

gerryh

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"Teenage girls are more likely to get pregnant when they have fewer education or employment opportunities to postpone child-bearing for."

hint read your link



I did, obviously you don't understand what is meant by "fewer education opportunities". Doesn't surprise me though. Hint, they aren't talking about sex education. Dumb a$$.
 

gore0bsessed

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yea sex education is part of education.

you should read your links you look like a dumbass now
 

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That's right. There are plenty of resources out there for parents to do THEIR job. We had a book that was called "where did I come from" that was geared for kids from 4-12 yrs old. Great book. Made it nice and easy to understand. Stressed that sex was for when you "love" someone. Explained what happens, how the baby develops, and how it is born. Explained copulation and orgasms, sperm and egg.


What I object to, is the obvious trivialization of sex. It seems to me, that what todays "sex ed" does is promote sex amongst teens and younger by explaining the hows in iintimitate detail when they are far too young. how to use lubricants for **** sex. They introduce fetishes. Yet they don't stress the consequences, both physical and mental of having sex when one is a teen or younger. They do a great job of telling them how wonderful it is, and how good it can feel, but not the fact that pregnancy is a REAL possibility no matter what contraceptives they use and how having sex too soon can be psychologically damaging not to mention the psychological damage a pregnancy or abortion can have on their immature minds.


This reminds me of when the schools decided to teach the kids that they had "rights" without teaching them that there are real responsibilities and possible consequences for those "rights". Once again I see a half a$$ job being done.

and...... if you're going to teach these kids how to get pregnant, then how about teaching them to be good parents then. Why only do half the job.
Because it takes a village to raise a child . And the village made all those adults children .
 

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This is just to give the leftards in T.O. a fit.....


Boy, if you want to sell your point, you had better find a way that doesn't include those two moronic arseholes.
 

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That's right. There are plenty of resources out there for parents to do THEIR job. We had a book that was called "where did I come from" that was geared for kids from 4-12 yrs old. Great book. Made it nice and easy to understand. Stressed that sex was for when you "love" someone. Explained what happens, how the baby develops, and how it is born. Explained copulation and orgasms, sperm and egg.


What I object to, is the obvious trivialization of sex. It seems to me, that what todays "sex ed" does is promote sex amongst teens and younger by explaining the hows in iintimitate detail when they are far too young. how to use lubricants for **** sex. They introduce fetishes. Yet they don't stress the consequences, both physical and mental of having sex when one is a teen or younger. They do a great job of telling them how wonderful it is, and how good it can feel, but not the fact that pregnancy is a REAL possibility no matter what contraceptives they use and how having sex too soon can be psychologically damaging not to mention the psychological damage a pregnancy or abortion can have on their immature minds.


This reminds me of when the schools decided to teach the kids that they had "rights" without teaching them that there are real responsibilities and possible consequences for those "rights". Once again I see a half a$$ job being done.

and...... if you're going to teach these kids how to get pregnant , then how about teaching them to be good parents then. Why only do half the job.

Yep, and that's the book I was refering to. It's a great book. Too bad it's not used to teach kids.

IMO it depends on what you mean by young. Just how 'young' is young? A five year old wanting to know what the name of their private parts is, isn't too young to be taught the proper names. A seven year old asking their mother where babies come from isn't too young to learn about pregnancy. A ten year old asking how the baby got 'inside' their mother (if they don't already know) isn't too young to know.

If the kids are old enough to ask the question, they're old enough to know.

I do agree that the details shouldn't be explained to kids until they're in their teens, I agree that things like a n a l sex shouldn't be discussed until they're older, and that the consequences of sex as a teen and younger DOES need to be discussed.

I totally agree if what is being taught is how 'wonderful' pregnancy and all is, then they SHOULD be also teaching parenthood. The half-azzed crap needs to stop. But the parenthood stuff goes hand in hand with the teaching of sex ed.

What I see the problem being is that the PARENTS who should be the ones teaching this stuff AREN'T, and so they leave it up to the rest of the world to deal with the issue. Yet they bytch and complain when the world steps in to do the job and are the first to say "I don't want my kid to know this! You're infringing on my rights as a parnet!" Instead of the parents protesting WITH those same "underage kids" holding signs of "protect my innocence" (which is ironic; those same 9 year olds are protesting about the course their parents don't want them involved with and likely they'll try to learn more when mom and dad AREN'T around which voids their own arguments) how about really discussing the issue and coming up with a parent AND school approved plan, or at least one that everyone can deal with.

But NO plan, or an outdated plan, is no option.

What does teaching 9 year olds that they can choose their gender have to do with 13 year olds getting pregnant?

Hoboy... I don't get where you think 'choosing gender' does have anything to do with pregnancy but since you brought it up...

You don't choose gender and you're confusing sex with gender which is totally different. While gender roles should be discussed in health class, I personally don't think sex ed classes is the place for it. Sadly that's where it usually ends up because people still don't know there's a difference.

As to your hypothetical situation: kids as young as 4 are telling their parents now that they are not a boy/girl and while it may be a phase, this isn't true of all kids. So said 9 year old has a damn good reason to want to discuss gender, gender roles and what being gay/lesbian/bi OR trans is.

It has nothing to do with a thirteen year old getting pregnant, or it shouldn't.
 

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That's right. There are plenty of resources out there for parents to do THEIR job. We had a book that was called "where did I come from" that was geared for kids from 4-12 yrs old. Great book. Made it nice and easy to understand. Stressed that sex was for when you "love" someone. Explained what happens, how the baby develops, and how it is born. Explained copulation and orgasms, sperm and egg.


What I object to, is the obvious trivialization of sex. It seems to me, that what todays "sex ed" does is promote sex amongst teens and younger by explaining the hows in iintimitate detail when they are far too young. how to use lubricants for **** sex. They introduce fetishes. Yet they don't stress the consequences, both physical and mental of having sex when one is a teen or younger. They do a great job of telling them how wonderful it is, and how good it can feel, but not the fact that pregnancy is a REAL possibility no matter what contraceptives they use and how having sex too soon can be psychologically damaging not to mention the psychological damage a pregnancy or abortion can have on their immature minds.


This reminds me of when the schools decided to teach the kids that they had "rights" without teaching them that there are real responsibilities and possible consequences for those "rights". Once again I see a half a$$ job being done.

and...... if you're going to teach these kids how to get pregnant, then how about teaching them to be good parents then. Why only do half the job.

Why can't we just go back to 1958, the year with the highest rate of teen pregnancies since recordkeeping began?

I blame rock n' roll and that horrible Buddy Holly for corrupting the Yoof of Murka (and no doubt Canada).
 

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Just the religious freaks that hate gays, ignore them and let them home school their kids about how Jebus put the dinosaur bones in the ground to test us.

That's child abuse.

What does teaching 9 year olds that they can choose their gender have to do with 13 year olds getting pregnant?

Sex education isn't just about pregnancy.
 

gerryh

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Sex education isn't just about pregnancy.




That's right, it's very little about pregnancy. Now it's about what lubricants to use, how to enjoy a n a l sex, fetishes, how enjoyable sex is..........
 

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That's right, it's very little about pregnancy. Now it's about what lubricants to use, how to enjoy a n a l sex, fetishes, how enjoyable sex is..........

So that people know, before they become sexually active, how to avoid dangerous and abusive attitudes towards sex that lead to exploitation, rape culture, injury and disease. If you have **** sex without knowing how to do so safely, you could cause some serious injury. If you don't know that it's OK to be transgender, homosexual, bisexual, etc. but you are, it may lead to depression, social isolation, substance abuse, self harm and suicide. Or if you don't that it's OK to be transgender, homosexual, bisexual, etc. and you meet people who are, you may create the conditions that drive people into depression and social isolation and suicide. You might make bullying and assault acceptable through your prejudice. You may even participate in it. Sex education needs to go beyond just body parts and pregnancy so that we can create a society where bigotry is unacceptable, people who are not straight and cisgender can live openly without fear, and people have healthy attitudes towards sex that allow them to enjoy it without ignorance leading to injury and abuse.