Survey: One in five Americans has no religion

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What does it mean to shove one's beliefs down another's throat?

I would say that it involves forced or coerced participation in religious services (such as prayers) in public events, such as government meetings, school classes, etc.

Starting city council meetings with prayers, saying grace before a meal as part of an official event, etc etc.

That's forcing your religion on people.
 

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I would say that it involves forced or coerced participation in religious services (such as prayers) in public events, such as government meetings, school classes, etc.

Starting city council meetings with prayers, saying grace before a meal as part of an official event, etc etc.

That's forcing your religion on people.

"Saying grace before a meal"- maybe if the one saying grace is a guest at your house!
 

DaSleeper

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You ever have any obnoxious religious fanatics coming to your door to drop off or worse yet try to sell you their literature? Actually I'm not sure that they are all that "religious", but they have the bad trait of non minding their own business.
In all truthfulness I have found the religion peddlers sometimes persistent but never and I mean never obnoxious...
I have on the other hand often seen people rebuffing them in an obnoxious way....
I have also seen quite a few people in forums react negatively to a simple Merry Christmas but never seen in any way a similar reaction to Happy Halloween ...............
 

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In all truthfulness I have found the religion peddlers sometimes persistent but never and I mean never obnoxious...
I have on the other hand often seen people rebuffing them in an obnoxious way....
I have also seen quite a few people in forums react negatively to a simple Merry Christmas but never seen in any way a similar reaction to Happy Halloween ...............

Actually you are right on the point of obnoxiousness going by the definition of the word. They are polite if nothing else. I just get annoyed at their repeated presence at my door. I think it is a little crass of a person however to think HE/SHE has answers no one else has.
 

DaSleeper

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Actually you are right on the point of obnoxiousness going by the definition of the word. They are polite if nothing else. I just get annoyed at their repeated presence at my door. I think it is a little crass of a person however to think HE/SHE has answers no one else has.

The same thing could be said of atheists .....Non?
 

DaSleeper

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I guess it depends on the individual atheist. Some just say they don't believe and let it go at that.
You could say the same thing about the individual theist...most will go their merry way, not bugging anyone else unless challenged in some way......
 

karrie

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In all truthfulness I have found the religion peddlers sometimes persistent but never and I mean never obnoxious...
I have on the other hand often seen people rebuffing them in an obnoxious way....
I have also seen quite a few people in forums react negatively to a simple Merry Christmas but never seen in any way a similar reaction to Happy Halloween ...............

I've seen ignorant, judgemental, rude people from both sides..,.because both are made up of humans.

Atheism is a religion in the same way not collecting stamps is a hobby.


By the same token, believing in god doesn't make a person religious
 

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It sure is interesting to observe the non-religious folk here bash any philosophy that they don't approve... Kinda makes you wonder why?
Not all the non-religious folk. I don't bash anyone's religion. I point out holes in their philosophies and sometimes make fun of religious proponents arguments.

In the end, what does it matter? You accept it or you don't

It's like disapproving of someone's favorite color that is different than your own.
Not quite. With me it's pointing out that what they call "red" is actually not red. :D (referring to the religious tendency to state things as fact when it isn't fact nor has any evidence suggesting it to be fact).

What does it mean to shove one's beliefs down another's throat?
For instance: gov't allowing schools to teach creationism or "intelligent design" in science classes. They are using taxpayers' dollars to teach the stuff.
 

DaSleeper

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It means you get right pissed off at them and they stand a good chance of getting throttled! :lol:
The only ones that piss me off are, atheists and "24 hour day creationists"(Bible thumpers)....:smile:

edited to add the odd muslim fanatic;-)
 

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The only ones that piss me off are, atheists and "24 hour day creationists"(Bible thumpers)....:smile:

edited to add the odd muslim fanatic;-)

I have no problem with atheists, while I may not agree with them, they don't bother me.

Hey Cannuck- A little news flash for you. I don't really give a f**k whether you agree with my posts or not....I'll debate anytime but only an abject moron with an I.Q. of 4 or less, keeps mindlessly handing out "reds", so as far as I'm concerned you can take your "reds" and shove them where the sun don't shine.....................IDIOT!
 

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CNN decides to try its hand at trolling, announces that the fastest growing religion is Atheism

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Washington (CNN) – The fastest growing "religious" group in America is made up of people with no religion at all, according to a Pew survey showing that one in five Americans is not affiliated with any religion.

The number of these Americans has grown by 25% just in the past five years, according to a survey released Tuesday by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life.

The survey found that the ranks of the unaffiliated are growing even faster among younger Americans.

Thirty-three million Americans now have no religious affiliation, with 13 million in that group identifying as either atheist or agnostic, according to the new survey.

Pew found that those who are religiously unaffiliated are strikingly less religious than the public at large. They attend church infrequently, if at all, are largely not seeking out religion and say that the lack of it in their lives is of little importance.


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Survey: One in five Americans has no religion – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

If true......and who really knows.........I am not really surprised. Maybe they are fans of George Carlin. ;-)
 

talloola

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i'm sure those figures are accurate, makes sense to me, but I do resent, as an atheist being called

religious, while at the same time, they say atheists have no religion, which is true.

we, as atheists do not fit into any religious group, we are not religious, so I guess atheism is

picking up all of the drop outs from religious groups, with exception to those who are agnostics,

they are just sitting on the fence, in their own mind, can't make a decision.


I guess the religious call atheism a religion because they know they are annoying them, must be, can't

imagine any other reason, the fact that many atheists 'debate' the authenticity of

god, doesn't make them religious, just people who don't believe in god.
 

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Yet it seems to even a superficial view that nothing could be more absurd and more ominous than the radical presupposition that religion can be destroyed by a fiat of government. Had there been a clear understanding of what religion basically is, such an overweening presumption could never have taken form to betray otherwise well-meaning zealots. Trimmed of all abstruse verbiage the fundamental definition of religion is just man's psychological reaction to the universe of life, in which he finds himself. By psychological is meant intellectual and emotional, sensual and spiritual, the experiences of the psyche or conscious faculty in man. The whole reaction of man, the psychic being, to life is his religion. Intellectually, what a man thinks of life is his philosophy; but when the philosophic content of his thought works over into his emotional realm and becomes suffused with the emotions of loyalty, sacrifice, devotion and high allegiance, it is then his religion. Etymologically it is that influence which "bi nds" him "back" (Latin, re, back, and ligo, to bind.) to that which is most deeply fundamental in him, his deific self; a power or disposition which, am
THE ROOT OF ALL​
RELIGION​
by​
ALVIN BOYD KUHN, Ph. D

(DB It seems we all have religion, it seems the only question is weather it is off the shelf or self made.But you can't have nun.
 
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