SURPRISE ATTACK.... is war coming?

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The extent of damage done to government computers and compromised security information is as yet unknown after the modern equivalent of a Pearl Harbour lightspeed attack upon Canadian government data bases.. The latest attack, to date the most damaging, originated in China though previous attacks have come from India, Russia, and the US as well. Some reports suggest the Government systems have beed corrupted to the extent of being fully transparent to foreign eyes. Make no mistake...this is CyborWar of the 21st century.

The Chinese with huge reserves of wealth and leverage built up from years of a fire breathing economy and massive loans given to western countries is now running up against its own environmental carrying capacity and is on the hunt....for food and resources and any information that can help them achieve their predatory goals. All around the world China is buying up mines
and agricultural land etc...and is heavily invested in all commodity markets which are seeing a sharp spike in prices...in short the sources of all the materials it uses in its economy. Recently here in Canada it tried unsuccessfully to get the potash mines ... it already has major coal mines, is invested in the tar sands and of coarse is pushing for the pipeline to the west coast .

In the world wide pond....China is phishing... the bait is money...the targets are resources and info.
 

petros

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Recently here in Canada it tried unsuccessfully to get the potash mines
Nooooo that was BHP and it was/is all smoke and mirrors about leases and raising venture capital from future resource development.
 

Trotz

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Then like the Japanese it will all be crash and burn. The Chinese have yet to realize that an economy is something a bit more than a couple of numbers on a computer screen or on a treasury bill.
 

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Learning Mandarin might come in handy.

I don't recommend that,
I grew up with Cantonese and Mandarin speakers and each time I go to Richmond and certain parts of Vancouver I recognize phrases like guǐlǎo ("Ghost" - which would be like us calling them Yellows Monkeys in public) being used, even by children, against me and every other white person they see.

Kevin Rudd, the Australian ex-Prime Minister, is fluent in Mandarin and supposedly the word on the street in Australia was that he mentioned in closed circles that Chinese men in particular would assume he spoke no Mandarin and would casually insult him ("i.e. Silly White Guy Guilao, doesn't know our Mandarin and he smells!").

The same reason we don't have people rushing out to learn Arabic, because they would soon find out that Arabs are insulting them and especially western women in front of their face.

Better off learning an European language, imo - I don't see German, Russian or Spanish losing their economic importance anytime soon.
 

petros

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I don't recommend that,
I grew up with Cantonese and Mandarin speakers and each time I go to Richmond and certain parts of Vancouver I recognize phrases like guǐlǎo ("Ghost" - which would be like us calling them Yellows Monkeys in public) being used, even by children, against me and every other white person they see.

Kevin Rudd, the Australian ex-Prime Minister, is fluent in Mandarin and supposedly the word on the street in Australia was that he mentioned in closed circles that Chinese men in particular would assume he spoke no Mandarin and would casually insult him ("i.e. Silly White Guy Guilao, doesn't know our Mandarin and he smells!").

The same reason we don't have people rushing out to learn Arabic, because they would soon find out that Arabs are insulting them and especially western women in front of their face.

Better off learning an European language, imo - I don't see German, Russian or Spanish losing their economic importance anytime soon.
I like the Richmond Night Market. ;)
 

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Likely it was the Chinese. They did it because they could. This was just a probe.

Cyber Espionage around for some time. China probably has a strong capability just like the USA/Israel/Germany (Stuxnet)
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/world/middleeast/16stuxnet.html

But if you dish it out, you better be able to take it. Iran may now be justified in attacking American/Israeli/Geraman computers which control nuclear reactors, or power grids, trains...
 

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It's more likely a bull**** story to move legislation along. Since none of you have the high security clearance like me you 'll have to trust my judgement, besides will we ever see any evidence>? NO we won't, is there a general wind up to war happinin.? Yes. So we're just getting wound up to defend the rag in the ME and help in the cultivation of democratic one god one gov one easy monthly payment fascism. false flag hacker attack...mos likly
 

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YouTube - Pentagon Hacker "Analyzer" Pleads Guilty The 2th Time - $10 Million US Hacking

The Analyzer’ Pleads Guilty in $10 Million Bank-Hacking Case


Ehud Tenenbaum, aka “The Analyzer,” quietly pleaded guilty in New York last week to a single count of bank-card fraud for his role in a sophisticated computer-hacking scheme that federal officials say scored $10 million from U.S. banks.
The Israeli hacker was arrested in Canada last year for allegedly stealing about $1.5 million from Canadian banks. But before Canadian authorities could prosecute him, U.S. officials filed an extradition request to bring him to the States.
Prosecutors alleged in an extradition affidavit that Tenenbaum hacked into two U.S. banks, a credit- and debit-card distribution company and a payment processor, in what they called a global “cash-out” conspiracy. But he was only charged with one count of conspiracy to commit access-device fraud and one count of access-device fraud.
Tenenbaum is set to be sentenced Nov. 19, and he faces a maximum of 15 years in prison. Prosecutors declined to comment on the case or describe the details of his plea agreement. The second count in the indictment, charging conspiracy, appears to have been dropped.
The Analyzer’s mother, Malka Tenenbaum, told Threat Level from Israel that she had no idea her son had pleaded guilty. “I don’t know what to think,” she said. “I hope that all is OK.”
The hacker’s attorneys did not respond to a call for comment.
Authorities have previously said the scheme Tenenbaum allegedly masterminded resulted in at least $10 million in losses, according to court records obtained by Threat Level, and were just part of a larger international conspiracy to hack financial institutions in the United States and abroad.
The guilty plea brings to a close a long chapter in hacker history.
Tenenbaum, 29, made headlines a decade ago under his hacker handle “The Analyzer,” when he was arrested in 1998 at the age of 19, along with several other Israelis and two California teens in one of the first high-profile hacker cases that made international news.
The teens were accused of penetrating Pentagon computers and other networks. Israel’s then-prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu had called Tenenbaum “damn good” after learning of his deeds, but also “very dangerous, too.”
Israeli law enforcement opted to prosecute Tenenbaum instead of extraditing him to the United States to face charges. He was eventually sentenced in 2001 to six months of community service in Israel. By then, he was working as a computer-security consultant.
Malka Tenenbaum told Threat Level in a previous conversation that she believed the United States was harboring a decade-old grudge against her son, and was pursuing him now because authorities here weren’t able to prosecute him previously.
Tenenbaum had been living in France recently, and had only been in Canada about five months on a six-month visitor’s permit when police in Calgary arrested him last August. He and three alleged accomplices were charged with hacking into Direct Cash Management, a Calgary company that distributes prepaid debit and credit cards. A Canadian court set bail at CN$30,000 ($27,600), but before he could be released from jail, U.S. authorities swooped in with a provisional warrant to retain him in custody while they pursued an indictment and extradition.
“I think he’s probably been getting away with stuff for 10 years,” Darren Hafner, an acting detective with the Calgary police, said at the time. “We haven’t seen or heard from him since the Pentagon attack. But these guys tend to get this ‘cops can’t touch me attitude’ and then they get sloppy like any criminal in any type of crime.”
Documents in the U.S. case were sealed, but Threat Level obtained an affidavit filed with the Canadian court detailing the U.S. allegations.
According to the affidavit, in October 2007, the U.S. Secret Service began investigating “an international conspiracy” to hack into computer networks of U.S. financial institutions and other businesses. As part of that investigation, agents examined network intrusions that occurred in January and February 2008 at OmniAmerican Credit Union, based in Fort Worth, Texas, and Global Cash Card of Irvine, California, a distributor of prepaid debit cards used primarily for payroll payments.
In both cases, the attacker gained access using a SQL injection attack that exploited a vulnerability in the company’s database software. The attacker grabbed credit- and debit-card numbers that were then used by thieves in several countries to withdraw more than $1 million from ATMs.
In April and May 2008, agents investigated two additional hacks at 1st Source Bank in Indiana, and at Symmetrex, a prepaid-debit-card processor based in Florida. The intruder again used a SQL injection attack, and losses added up to more than $3 million.
Investigators traced the intrusions to several servers belonging to HopOne Internet in McLean, Virginia, which turned out to be just a routing point for an attack that originated from servers at the Dutch web hosting company LeaseWeb — one of the largest hosting companies in Europe.
U.S. officials asked Dutch law-enforcement agents On April 7, 2008, to track “all computer traffic pertaining to three servers hosted by LeaseWeb” and intercept “the content of that traffic” for 30 days, according to the affidavit. The interception request was renewed for another 30 days on May 9.
Among the wiretapped traffic, authorities found communications that allegedly occurred between Tenenbaum — using the e-mail address Analyzer22@hotmail.com — and other known hackers discussing the breaches into the four U.S. institutions, “as well as many other U.S. and foreign financial institutions.”
In one instant message chat in April 2008, Tenenbaum allegedly discussed trying to hack into Global Cash Card. after system administrators at the company apparently locked him out from an initial intrusion.
“Yesterday I rechecked [Global Cash Card]. They are still blocking everything,” he allegedly wrote. “So we can’t hack them again.”

Authorities say Tenenbaum on April 18, 2008, gave a co-conspirator the compromised debit- and credit-card account numbers of more than 150 accounts taken from Symmetrex as well as the computer commands he’d used to execute the attack. Then, throughout the night of April 20, he received updates from accomplices in Russia and Turkey as they successfully withdrew cash from ATMs, and from Pakistan and Italy where the cards apparently failed to work.
The next day, more cards were used in Bulgaria, Canada, Germany, Sweden and the United States. By late afternoon that day, Tenenbaum told an accomplice he’d racked up about “350 – 400″ in earnings. The affidavit notes that this likely referred to thousands of dollars or thousands of euros.
Tenenbaum allegedly gave an accomplice additional cards in an April 20 chat and asked the accomplice to find a “casher” — the underground’s term for the low-level worker whose only job is to withdraw the loot.
“I am making a small operation, you have casher?” he allegedly wrote. “I been trying to get a hold of you. I saved for you 25 cards, each one $1,500 limit. Get casher as soon as possible. OK, I will load them.”
According to authorities, after Tenenbaum got into the 1st Source Bank network, he obtained administrator privileges that allowed him to view credit card numbers and ATM output. This latter activity apparently collided with other hackers who were in the system trying to execute shell commands.
“Is HUGE,” he allegedly wrote an accomplice. “I saw ATM outputs, tons of cards. I am admin there, and I already cracked some of the domain.”
His accomplice replied that there were already people inside the network and asked Tenenbaum to get out. Tenenbaum replied, “Dude, like I told ya. It’s [Microsoft] Windows network. I am happy I could help you to get shell there. Now it’s your guys’ job.”
About a month later, Tenenbaum allegedly disclosed that he’d hacked Alpha Bank in Greece, the country’s second largest commercial bank, where he said friends of his worked.
Despite Tenenbaum’s earlier notoriety as The Analyzer, he apparently made no attempt to hide his real identity, using an e-mail address with a name that was previously tied to him, as well as an IP address that was easily connected to him.
“He’s a really intelligent guy, but I think he’s just got this cocky attitude that ‘no one can get me,’” Hafner told Threat Level. As a result, he says, Tenenbaum made a lot of telling missteps.
According to the affidavit, the subscriber information for the Hotmail account that was used to discuss the hacks was registered under Tenenbaum’s real name and birth date. Hafner also told Threat Level that Tenenbaum was caught on an ATM surveillance camera withdrawing funds from one of the compromised Canadian accounts.
Tenenbaum was director of a computer security company called Internet Labs Secure that he ran out of Montreal. U.S. authorities found that someone using an IP address registered to his company accessed the Hotmail account, and also used it to access the Global Cash Card network to check the balances of compromised cards and attempt to increase the limits on the accounts. Someone used a second IP address associated with Tenenbaum to access Global Cash Card and “download a file containing all of that compromised computer’s data,” according to the affidavit.
A spokesman for Symmetrex (which was owned at the time of the hack by Britain-based Altair Financial Services) had no knowledge of the breach when Threat Level contacted the company last March. But he said Symmetrex processes about 500,000 debit transactions a month for prepaid payroll and gift cards, and claimed the company was compliant with the PCI security standards that financial institutions say protect them from such intrusions.
Symmetrex was the third card-processing company known to have been hacked within the course of a year. RBS Worldpay, a U.S. payment-processing division owned by the Royal Bank of Scotland, announced last December that it had been hacked in November, and that information on 1.5 million cardholders was compromised. Heartland Payment Systems announced earlier this year that it also had been hacked sometime last year.
The affidavit detailing the charges against Tenenbaum says investigators have attributed $10 million in losses to the hacking spree, though it attributes only $1 million in losses to the OmniAmerican and Global Cash Card hacks, and $3 million to the 1st Source Bank and Symmetrex hacks.
It’s not clear where the remaining $6 million in alleged losses come from, and the U.S. Attorney’s office in the Eastern District of New York, where Tenenbaum was charged, was unable to account for the discrepancy in the totals.
 

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Actually the Chinese don't have to hack Pentagon computers because people like Chi Mak and Dongfan Chung readily hand over American defense secrets to them.
So did Clinton for debt relief. He wasn't up for impeachment for getting a sloppy hummer from an eager Jewish princess. It was for passing on nuclear tech.
 

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I want to vomit.

In 2003 I was doing contracts for GC... specifically TBS and EC. I told them then they had holes, but they were hung up on using Microsoft (@#$%ing careerists getting jobs through connections rather than talent and ability).

None of this is surprising.

Plus if anybody would bother to keep in touch with their American counterparts they'd know that none of this is anything surprising to them.

How's that feel? To have your American counterparts say this was no surprise?

You have no @#$%ing idea how serious China is about surviving in a world with only enough resources for 1.5 billion people at middle class standard of living. Dedication to that mission is what's pulling them back together after what has been, by their historical measurement of time, a speed-bump and a hiccup of the Maoist and then the Cultural revolution.

EC was actually okay, because they were on Linux, but TBS was a Microsoft wound waiting to be opened.

I don't get it. Why do the most economically important and sensitive ministries run on the lamest operating systems?

Lemme guess... it's because MBAs tend toward the ministries of finance and treasury, and they, the MBAs who are taught marketing, get most suckered by it from enterprises like Microsoft.

How is it that people taught marketing are most suckered by it?

In case you didn't know, I think it would be wise for this nation to maintain it's border... especially with climate change and global demand for primary resources used by the globalists to see the money sucked out so the people living here can't have the money required to survive against the cold.
 
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I want to vomit...

None of this is surprising.

Plus if anybody would bother to keep in touch with their American counterparts they'd know that none of this is anything surprising to them.

How's that feel? To have your American counterparts say this was no surprise?...

Many Americans such as myself have become fatalistic about Western Civilization. We feel like those members of the Russian nobility in 1915 who knew the Romanov Dynasty and the imperial system could not be saved regardless of what they did. The best that can be hoped is for the new Dark Age to pass and for the Phoenix to rise from the flames.

So did Clinton for debt relief. He wasn't up for impeachment for getting a sloppy hummer from an eager Jewish princess. It was for passing on nuclear tech.

Prior to Clinton, Chinese missiles exploded on the tarmac. After Clinton, Chinese missiles became accurate. He switched approval of dual use technology sales to the Chinese from the Dept. of Defense to the Dept. of Commerce.
 

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Prior to Clinton, Chinese missiles exploded on the tarmac. After Clinton, Chinese missiles became accurate. He switched approval of dual use technology sales to the Chinese from the Dept. of Defense to the Dept. of Commerce.
Treason is still treason no matter how hard you try to cover it up with a sensational bull**** blow job story.
 

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Treason is still treason no matter how hard you try to cover it up with a sensational bull**** blow job story.

There is no such thing as treason in America any more. It hasnt existed since Julius and Ethel Rosenburg were executed. Virtually anything goes now. Example: Michael Moore calling for American defeat in Iraq.
 

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I find it amusing that people will use the fall of Rome analogy but often trend carefully if someone brings up the end of racial segregation in South Africa and the United States, even though the two have more in common than you think.

Oh well, it matters not what we think but what the Chinese historians will think of us, they will need to pin down a date somewhere and I imagine it'll be sometime in the 1960s / 1970s, and they will likewise claim that they won the "First Cold War".
 

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I find it amusing that people will use the fall of Rome analogy but often trend carefully if someone brings up the end of racial segregation in South Africa and the United States, even though the two have more in common than you think.

Oh well, it matters not what we think but what the Chinese historians will think of us, they will need to pin down a date somewhere and I imagine it'll be sometime in the 1960s / 1970s, and they will likewise claim that they won the "First Cold War".

It doesn't matter whether Rome's fall is marked by the Vandal sack in 410 CE or in the 480 CE plus/minus when the office of Emperor was abolished by the Barbarians.

Similarly, the exact date of America's fall doesn't matter. Moreover, it isn't simply the fall of America that we're talking about. It's the entire West that is falling. Canada is not exempt. To pretend otherwise is amusing.