Supreme Court Justices Reveal Profound Ignorance About Text Messaging and Email

[Liberalman]

I am glad that the judge doesn't text because at least the people will get a fair trial.


The last thing you want is a judge texting while your lawyer is presenting your case.


Texting is relatively new on the tech scene and until proper Etiquette is followed then life will be in a turmoil.


Texting is the cause of more auto accidents where life is lost.


Since texting short forms are used grammar is a casualty.


With new technologies coming out texting will be a thing of the past and that is a good thing.

 

[DurkaDurka]

So what is the difference between texting and email?

They are two entirely different beasts.

E-mail is usually POP3 (Post office Protocol) or IMAP (Internet Mail Access Protocol) for receiving & storing messages (IMAP can working offline and online), SMTP (Simplified Mail Transfer Program) for sending between servers.

SMS is a communication service component of the GSM standard which has also been ported to CDMA etc. SMS is more or less a Sender - Recipient service, where if the recipient is unavailable, the message will be queued by the SMSC (Short Message Service Center) until a time when it can be sent. The SMSC is basically a traffic controller between sender & receiver and differs from a e-mail by the fact that you cannot access the SMSC, it's not a customer accessible storage medium.

 

[ironsides]

Old people barely know how to email, let along text message. How can they possibly vote about something they do not know about. The U.S. goverment never does that. :roll:

"Women who seek to be equal to men lack ambition.":lol:

 

[TenPenny]

They are two entirely different beasts.

E-mail is usually POP3 (Post office Protocol) or IMAP (Internet Mail Access Protocol) for receiving & storing messages (IMAP can working offline and online), SMTP (Simplified Mail Transfer Program) for sending between servers.

SMS is a communication service component of the GSM standard which has also been ported to CDMA etc. SMS is more or less a Sender - Recipient service, where if the recipient is unavailable, the message will be queued by the SMSC (Short Message Service Center) until a time when it can be sent. The SMSC is basically a traffic controller between sender & receiver and differs from a e-mail by the fact that you cannot access the SMSC, it's not a customer accessible storage medium.

And I gather that 'every kid' understands the differences between those protocols, and it's only the old farts that don't.

 

[DurkaDurka]

And I gather that 'every kid' understands the differences between those protocols, and it's only the old farts that don't.

Why would anyone know this sort of stuff unless you worked in the industry? I wouldn't expect a kid to understand it anymore then a judge would.

 

[CDNBear]

And I gather that 'every kid' understands the differences between those protocols, and it's only the old farts that don't.

I spent a good hour looking stuff up on line, after asking my 17 year old if he knew the difference, he didn't, and I couldn't find anything that in depth online, lol.

All I know is, I can communicate with him on his computer from my cell and visa versa.

Now, I wonder if the Supreme Court Justices know how to hang a treestand or hunt for Deer or even clean and hang it. So I guess they shouldn't be ruling on Native hunting rights either? Well according to the OP, they shouldn't...:roll:

Why would anyone know this sort of stuff unless you worked in the industry? I wouldn't expect a kid to understand it anymore then a judge would.

Bingo! Which is why the assertions in the OP are supercilious, if not outright absurd.

 

[DurkaDurka]

I am glad that the judge doesn't text because at least the people will get a fair trial.


The last thing you want is a judge texting while your lawyer is presenting your case.


Texting is relatively new on the tech scene and until proper Etiquette is followed then life will be in a turmoil.


Texting is the cause of more auto accidents where life is lost.


Since texting short forms are used grammar is a casualty.


With new technologies coming out texting will be a thing of the past and that is a good thing.

Man, you are comical, where do you come up with this stuff?

 

[TenPenny]

Why would anyone know this sort of stuff unless you worked in the industry? I wouldn't expect a kid to understand it anymore then a judge would.

Exactly my point.

 

[DaSleeper]

Durka: I have text my daughter using my PC and my email program using all ten characters in her phone number @msg.telus.com
Just because it was faster to type than text...:smile:
What are all the protocols being used here......?:lol:

 

[DurkaDurka]

Durka: I have text my daughter using my PC and my email program using all ten characters in her phone number @msg.telus.com
Just because it was faster to type than text...:smile:
What are all the protocols being used here......?:lol:

It's basically a web service that interfaces with the SMSC, instead of your phone sending the SMS, you submit it via HTML/Server Side Code form which passes the message off to the SMSC which in turn sends it to your daughters phone. That's the simple explanation anyways, from what I understand.

 

[eh1eh]

It's basically a web service that interfaces with the SMSC, instead of your phone sending the SMS, you submit it via HTML/Server Side Code form which passes the message off to the SMSC which in turn sends it to your daughters phone. That's the simple explanation anyways, from what I understand.

It would have to do that. I know you can do it directly from the Telus website too.

Send a message*|* TELUS Mobility


On an incredible note.
A couple of years ago I sent a fax for my brother-in-law. The next day I gave him back his documents and he asked me why I hadn't sent his fax. Now that is behind the times.

 

[AnnaG]

Indeed. But doctors don't have to rule on matters they know nothing about, Supreme Court Justices have to rule on every subject under the sun. It is incumbent upon them to acquire at least elementary knowledge about the subject they are considering.

Or have experts around to inform them. I don't know about you, but I would hardly expect lawyers and judges to be able to remember every little detail about all those "every subject under the sun" things.

And again, if they don't know much about obscure, technical matters, nobody thinks anything of it. But if they don't know basic stuff about E Mail and texting, they may very well become the laughing stock.

And then people with a little sense realize that lawyers are not all technological wizards. :roll:

 

[AnnaG]

As I understand it, there are two major differences. Texting is a short message (the size limit is rather small), E Mail has no limit (or has a rather large size limit, more than what most of us would use). Originally, texting was just that, a short text message. But these days it can include sound and video as well.

The other big difference is that texting is confined to portable devices such as cell phones, Blackberries etc. E Mail can be sent to computers as well as mobile devices.

Main Entry: textingPart of Speech: nDefinition: the sending of text messages via cell phones or other mobile devicesExample: I can't figure out all these texting codes.Usage: also texting, (adj.)
e-mail

  /ˈiˌmeɪl/ Show Spelled[ee-meyl] Show IPA
–noun1.a system for sending messages from one individual to another via telecommunications links between computers or terminals.

2.a message sent by e-mail: Send me an e-mail on the idea.


–verb (used with object)3.to send a message to by e-mail.

dictionary.com

I found the biggest difference is the language. Because texting is limited to character numbers, people use shortcuts like r for are, u for you, l8r for later, ur for you're, etc. Emails are not that choosy about message length.

 

[AnnaG]

Why would anyone know this sort of stuff unless you worked in the industry? I wouldn't expect a kid to understand it anymore then a judge would.

Exactly. Most kids wouldn't even be interested.

 

[AnnaG]

I spent a good hour looking stuff up on line, after asking my 17 year old if he knew the difference, he didn't, and I couldn't find anything that in depth online, lol.

All I know is, I can communicate with him on his computer from my cell and visa versa.

Now, I wonder if the Supreme Court Justices know how to hang a treestand or hunt for Deer or even clean and hang it. So I guess they shouldn't be ruling on Native hunting rights either? Well according to the OP, they shouldn't...:roll:

Yup

Bingo! Which is why the assertions in the OP are supercilious, if not outright absurd.

But, considering the source ... lmao

 

[Tonington]

Somehow I don't see why a judge would have to know the intricacies of the internet or be computer literate to judge a case involving text messages..
whether it is a privacy case or freedom of speech case, the media,oral, print or text, should not make a difference.....
A judge wouldn't need to be a mechanical engineer to judge a Toyota case for example....
Interesting post and I agree.....reluctantly

There should be an age limit

A judge doesn't need to be a mechanical engineer to judge a toyota case, but they should be reasonably informed about what an accelerator is, and how it's supposed to function, and how that fits within the law regarding obligations to report hazards to customers, partners, etc.

Considering that judges routinely argue about what does free speech cover, is expression if non-verbal still protected, does flag burning count as free speech, etc. I think it's important that they grasp what different forms of communication are (the judge's actual comment was about the difference between an email and a pager.) One being a communication, the other being a medium for communication.