Sudden Escalation of Conflict Happening in the Middle East

darkbeaver

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It,s just business. We should just move along eh.
 

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Ummmmm....
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Guys....:

A Trip Down Memory Lane: In 2015 the Obama Administration Said the Iran Deal Wasn’t Even a ‘Signed Document’

How easy we forget. On November 19, 2015, the State Department sent a letter to then-Representative Mike Pompeo that severely undercuts the notion that the Iran deal represents any form of binding American commitment. It turns out that the Obama administration not only acknowledged that the deal wasn’t a treaty (obvious enough), but it also admitted that it wasn’t “an executive agreement” or even a “signed document.” Here are the key paragraphs:
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/iran-nuclear-deal-not-signed-document-not-binding/

Trump was crazy because North Korea...Surprise surprise...look how that turned out.
 

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Well, that's the newspeak: "sudden escalation" = "permanent state of"
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like throwing roller bearings in the other team's hockey dressing room just after the skates get put on...and just before the cameras arrive for a pre game interview
 

darkbeaver

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Ummmmm....
;)
Guys....:

A Trip Down Memory Lane: In 2015 the Obama Administration Said the Iran Deal Wasn’t Even a ‘Signed Document’

How easy we forget. On November 19, 2015, the State Department sent a letter to then-Representative Mike Pompeo that severely undercuts the notion that the Iran deal represents any form of binding American commitment. It turns out that the Obama administration not only acknowledged that the deal wasn’t a treaty (obvious enough), but it also admitted that it wasn’t “an executive agreement” or even a “signed document.” Here are the key paragraphs:
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/iran-nuclear-deal-not-signed-document-not-binding/

Trump was crazy because North Korea...Surprise surprise...look how that turned out.

Yes it looks good for Trump, I agree, but how does this reflect on the obvious crazy part. Crazy people are not new to the White House in my estimation. It,s a big job and crazy is of course an asset.
You could be fly fishing and knapping in the shade all day but your election win fukked up the rest of your life and now your head is glued to a red telephone and shjt is shoved in your face all day needing your signature and you rely on readers outside of your head to advise, and you,re married to someone who could be your daughter. How could you eliminate the crazy part?


Why dosn,t he get a fukkin haircut and a real job. I say he got royally fukked in the Art of the life deal.

Well, that's the newspeak: "sudden escalation" = "permanent state of"
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like throwing roller bearings in the other team's hockey dressing room just after the skates get put on...and just before the cameras arrive for a pre game interview

Trumps in that dressing room right now.
He may even be burried from that exalted position, but he was in the game they will say, a job well done they will agree. Of course a national funeral of such gravity, god forbid, would galvanize the nation immeasurably and a new round of conquest would more efficiently begin with new leadership willing to take up the mooring chain of American exceptionalism. They throw great presidental funerals don,t they?
 
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Well, I have to wait to see either way on this one because, I don't think Iran is the bogeyman they are being painted out to be anymore than any other wesley clark invasion list country has been.

What I think is trump will maneuver a better deal, one that is signed. If he goes to war it will be a mistake in the end - while it might gain some political support from the terrorist supporters like john mccain, and the warhawk press, it will end his voter support at home.
 

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Well, I have to wait to see either way on this one because, I don't think Iran is the bogeyman they are being painted out to be anymore than any other wesley clark invasion list country has been.

What I think is trump will maneuver a better deal, one that is signed. If he goes to war it will be a mistake in the end - while it might gain some political support from the terrorist supporters like john mccain, and the warhawk press, it will end his voter support at home.

I have, I think, no illustions about Trump. That office has long since defined the man and it will take a superhuman to define that office as popularly envisioned and in my estimation he, Trump, is very far from that man. It is of course hoped that such a great man will redefine that nation from within rather than bowing to power from without as is easily evident presently, it seems. In the looming battle between the USA and the world which side of the discusssion will prevail do you think, given the available history of such adjustments?
The outcome might take decades or weeks but you know enough history to see the future of Imperialism. There is only room for one.


Well, I have to wait to see either way on this one because, I don't think Iran is the bogeyman they are being painted out to be anymore than any other wesley clark invasion list country has been.

What I think is trump will maneuver a better deal, one that is signed. If he goes to war it will be a mistake in the end - while it might gain some political support from the terrorist supporters like john mccain, and the warhawk press, it will end his voter support at home.

The Chinese road to Europe is the crux of this matter, it has capacity and is convieniently closer to the oil and the dollar is toilet paper. It,s war or oblivion for the USA.Afterall that is simply bussiness, ain,t it?
 

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Like who specifically, besides Palestine?

Yes the USS liberty was a palestinian ship.
:O
OK, lets talk geopolitical reality here...for a change.

BBC Documentary on the USS Liberty:
"Dead in the Water"

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Cover-Up Alleged in Probe of USS Liberty

A former Navy attorney who helped lead the military investigation of the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty that killed 34 American servicemen says former President Lyndon Johnson and his defense secretary, Robert McNamara, ordered that the inquiry conclude the incident was an accident.

In a signed affidavit released at a Capitol Hill news conference, retired Capt. Ward Boston said Johnson and McNamara told those heading the Navy's inquiry to "conclude that the attack was a case of 'mistaken identity' despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary."

It was “one of the classic all-American cover-ups,” said retired Admiral Thomas Moorer, a former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman who spent a year investigating the attack as part of an independent panel he formed with other former military officials. The panel also included a former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, James Akins.


Torpedo hole in USS Liberty

“Why would our government put Israel’s interests ahead of our own?” Moorer asked from his wheelchair at the news conference. He was chief of naval operations at the time of the attack.
The USS Liberty Cover-Up

In case you didn't know just how low these creeps really are...and after all that illegal aid they get from the US because Israel never signed the NNPT too eh? STOLEN WELFARE!!!!

Lawsuit Warns $234 Billion In Aid To Israel Violates US Law Against Supporting Secret Nuclear States

Filed Aug. 8 by Grant Smith, director of the Institute for Research: Middle East Policy, or IRMEP, in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, the suit alleges that U.S. aid to Israel violates two amendments to the 1961 Foreign Assistance Act, known as the the Symington and Glenn Amendments, which collectively ban support for countries engaged in clandestine nuclear programs.

In the lawsuit, Smith alleges that violating these amendments means that Israel has received approximately $234 billion in illegal aid since the passage of the International Security Assistance and Arms Export Control Act of 1976.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/lawsu...inst-supporting-secret-nuclear-states/5585637
 

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Didn't you get the memo ?

Israel is allowed to bomb whomever the hell they please, encroach on whatever lands they please, and sooper seekrit-ly build nuclear weapons to their heart's content... without any interference or slaps on the wrist.

Why ?

Because... reasons.



They are a country who is allowed to defend itself!! That's why.
 

Danbones

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Iran threatens to expose politicians who made money on nuclear treaty deal
Here it is, illicit bribery. Straight from the horse's mouth

This is, like everything else lately, about the democratic government and CRIME
 

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The day pointing out facts is considered hate is the day freewill, free thought, and free speech
all die completely.
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Humanity will all go to hell shortly thenafter.
 

darkbeaver

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those who fail to learn their lessons from history are doomed to repeat them

I agree, but, history repeats itself seemingly without fail , that reality allows us to pass the wisdom forward in perpetuity to blind ears.


Doom prevails. I wonder if doom isint an underrated quality a the base of necessity. Of course I wonder about lots of stuff. Like what makes stuff sticky etc.

 

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... or as they used to tell us in high school:

"Those who fail History are doomed to repeat it"