Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

gopher

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speaking of turning on cameras - a stupid cop fails to realize he recorded himself planting evidence:


https://www.yahoo.com/tech/cop-accidentally-frames-himself-planting-drugs-body-camera-230620655.html




''Footage shows officer placing drugs in trash; goes out to street, turns on camera, returns. Cams save 30 sec prior to activation, w/o sound pic.twitter.com/5ZW128lWFM
— Justin Fenton (@justin_fenton) July 19, 2017


Presumably unaware of this feature, the cop accidentally films himself placing a baggie of pills in an empty can in a yard filled with trash. The officer then goes back out to the sidewalk with two other cops, presses record on the body cam, and is then heard saying “Hey, let’s check over here.”

The officer is seen “discovering” the bag of pills in record time, before coming back out to the road and turning the camera off. The drugs — and the officer’s testimony of finding them — were to be used in a case against a suspect. After reviewing the video, a public defender brought up the apparent planting of evidence to the prosecutor in the case. Charges were subsequently dropped, and some kind of investigation is ongoing, although the Baltimore Police Department has refused further comment.''
 

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Yep, Baltimore. It's amazing. Even if you know that your corrupt, murderous department isn't about to discipline you, failing to turn off your body cam while you plant drugs is just plain lazy.
 

spilledthebeer

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Yeah- you really need to look at that Whitby cop assault crap honestly for a change! A bunch of cars were broken into and an off duty cop who lives in the area spotted some black guys who DID NOT live in the area.....and tried to question them- the usual stuff about who they were, were they were going and why. The guys `resisted` and a fight ensued with one guy getting caught and beat on as he fought back.

This is not police brutality it is a neighbourhood sick of seeing predators prowling their area and robbing them and locals trying to regain honest control- but Black Lives Matter goofs and cop haters WILL turn it into some thing else!

And the truth will come out at the trial but LIE-beral loving media and cop haters will PRETEND they did not get the news! Just the usual hypocrite stuff spewed straight from the back of the Bull into the faces of people who dont like robbers and thieves!!

Those two cops should have been canned on the spot, the question of an apology should never have come up. They acted like Assholes to a marginalized person. They should be setting the example!


Pardon me dear- but your double standard is showing! The 2 cops did NOT say ANYTHING to the face of that girl! It took her mother- bitching about the ticket she was getting and demanding to have her day in court- which she got- and at that time a police video tape was played at which time comments the cops NEVER expected to see the light of day were heard! Its a screw up by a couple of dumb bells who HAVE APOLOGIZED to a woman who wants to rub their faces in dirt because she is distressed by the condition of her daughter. I have a son myself and I would have a very hard time keeping mentally on a even keel if I had to deal with a child with such disability. Its a horrible condition but the cops did not make her that way.

A little grace on all sides is called for- too bad the mother and you will not let it go!

How different a reaction would this have gotten if she'd been black and the cop white instead of the other way around. The shooter cop was already under investigation for two complaints at the time. He is the department's first Somali cop. If that's anything like here, the ways were greased. We got our first Somali accepted for the police a few months back. Only after the chief overruled the screening officer who disqualified him due to his past history.

I support police but it should not be legal for a police officer to refuse to speak to investigators looking into the use of force, as he has done.

Stupid LIE-berals think they can- for politically expedient reasons- shovel any fool into a cop uniform and not have to worry about consequences! Ottawa cops were forced by politicians to hire a Somali who just happened- among other things- to have TWO different sets of ID! With the possibility that he had the 2 sets of papers so he could HIDE a criminal past! LIE-berals insult us by thinking we are interchangeable nothings with no logic or influence on anything! And LIE-berals see NOTHING wrong with meddling in police matters for political gain-shrot term advantage and long term mess!

Here is an older article illustrating the ongoing hostility of LIE-berals to the views and values of ordinary Cdns-along with some comments of my own in brackets):

Opposing reckless immigration isn’t racist. By Candice Malcolm. First posted: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 06:26 PM EDT

During Question Period in the House of Commons on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on May 5, 2016. McCallum has apologized for commenting at a Senate committee hearing Wednesday that a “cultural element” may explain many Syrian refugees lining up at food banks. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Adrian Wyld

Is it racist to oppose unlimited, unchecked immigration? Elites sure seem to think so. Following last month’s Brexit vote, editorialists and politicians all over the world declared that people who oppose open borders and reject mass migration suffer from xenophobia and bigotry.

Instead of listening to the people, many leaders would rather simply call the average voter stupid. But if they took the time to understand the motivations behind Brexit or Donald Trump’s popularity, they might realize the populist uprisings in the U.K. and U.S. are not an outright rejection of immigration.

(LIE-berals are so determined to “re-educate” us that they are pushing ahead with their —103 anti Islamophobia motion-the one they will use to SILENCE ANY CRITIC of LIE-beral social, immigration or national security policy-this is a creeping coup designed to give LIE-berals dictatorial powers over public opinion and discussion-with any anti LIE-beral view facing harassment from our Human Rights Commission commissars! LIE-beral re-education will enable LIE-berals to BUY votes as needed and to control all public policy and debate to ensure their re-election!)

They are a rejection of a specific type of reckless and irresponsible immigration policy.

In 2015, German Chancellor Angela Merkel opened Germany’s borders and declared her country would accept hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees.

But European governments failed to create any process or mechanism for screening and admitting refugees. Europe had no way of distinguishing true refugees from opportunistic migrants, and no plan to integrate newcomers into the economy or welcome them into local communities.

(I would point out that many immigrants bring with them morals and values that are IMPOSSIBLE to reconcile with our modern secular state. For those kinds of immigrants-there is a STARK CHOICE-either we must change or they must change-there can be NO half measures!)

Instead, many of the millions of newcomers to Europe continue to form their own parallel societies, often completely at odds with the values and norms of their host society. Angry and violent young men joined the incoming migrants and radical jihadists have been able to enter Europe amidst the chaos. Concern about this type of migration is not about race or ethnicity It’s scarcely about religion.

Rather, people throughout the Western world are concerned about the consequences of mass migration without security checks and proper integration.

These fears are completely legitimate.

But rather than listening to these genuine concerns, the response from the political and media elite has been dismissive, pejorative and flat out hostile. These trends are not confined to Europe and the U.S. The same phenomenon exists in Canada.
Despite continual failures within our own refugee resettlement program, many would prefer to turn a blind eye.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is quick to accept praise for his Syrian refugee pledge. Immigration Minister John McCallum called it “mission accomplished.”

But when serious problems surface — lack of resources for newcomers, refugees relying on food banks, violence within the Syrian refugee community, and so on — the Trudeau government is missing in action.

When news stories surfaced about Syrian refugees bullying Canadians students, first in Nova Scotia and then last week in New Brunswick, most media outlets ignored the news.

Sun Media Parliamentary Bureau Chief David Akin was one of very few reporters in the mainstream media to cover the story after it was initially reported by TheRebel.media.

Similarly, much media attention was given to an assault against a woman wearing a hijab in London, Ont.

But when radio host Andrew Lawton reported the alleged perpetrator was a Farsi-speaking woman from Iran, most media members ignored his report for The
Rebel.media.

(Bigoted LIE-berals scorn The Rebel Media due to it being led by Ezra Levant-a prominent anti LIE-beral media commentator. LIE-berals are so scared that the Levant view on anything may be taken up by ordianry cdns that LIE-berals automatically heap insult and abuse on ANY Levant comment-regardless of validity. Hypocrite LIE-berals want to bury Levant in LIE-beral propaganda!)

Iran is a Muslim country. About 90%-95% of Iran’s population are Shiite Muslims, while Sunni Muslims comprise the other 5%-10%. Assaulting anyone is unacceptable.

But while we don’t know the circumstances of this assault, it may have had more to do with tensions within the Muslim world, than Islamophobia.

When we ignore important news and bury the problematic elements of immigration, we inevitably drive people to become even more skeptical of mass migration. Ignoring problems won’t make them go away. It usually makes them worse.

That’s exactly what is happening with the problem of immigration mismanagement all over the world.

(Our hypocrite LIE-berals use accusations of “Islamophobia” as a catchall insult to dissuade any sensible discussion of Cdn problems. LIE-berals do not want to hear anything logical-unless it BUYS THEM VOTES!)
 

spilledthebeer

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Trump should ban Australians from coming in to save their lives..........


www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7APmRkatEU

There are crazy people in all countries. Why dont you let the courts do their job for a change instead of being a bigot and rushing to set up a lynch mob? Have a look at the article set out below and then see if yuo can provide us with some insight into how police training might be modified to avert such a tragedy? I dare you to read this and then tell us where police training failed\? Oh and why dont you tell us why we should focus on cops and IGNORE damned LIE-berals who refuse to set up adequate health training for crazy people?

Here is an article damning cops with faint praise and illustrating that in some peoples eyes, cops are NEVER in the right! And it illustrates the utterly twisted value system of LIE-berals! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Charleena Lyles Needed Health Care. Instead, She Was Killed. 1/11

The New York Times. By PHILLIP ATIBA GOFF and KIM SHAYO BUCHANAN

Photos of Charleena Lyles, who was killed by the police in Seattle on Sunday/June 17/2017 . © Ken Lambert/The Seattle Times, via Associated Press Photos of Charleena Lyles,

On Sunday morning, two Seattle police officers shot and killed Charleena Lyles in her apartment. She was pregnant, and three of her four children were home. She had called the police to report a burglary. According to the officers’ account, shortly after they arrived, Ms. Lyles, who the police knew was mentally ill, pulled a knife. Both officers shot her. Societal failure to care for mental health, which leaves the police as mental illness first responders, may well have been one deadly ingredient in this tragic encounter.

(ONE DEADLY INGREDIENT? IT’S THE ONLY DEADLY INGREDIENT! What would LIE-beral minded morons have ordered to be done differently by cops? She was robbed and so police MUST speak to her? It is not the job of cops to order psychiatric care for her! Nor is it in their power to ORDER her to take her medication before they will deal with her! And they have no power to do so anyway!)

According to her family and police records, Ms. Lyles wrestled with significant mental health issues. An audiotape reveals officers discussing her police and mental health history immediately before the shooting. Seattle Police Department officers had been called to her residence more than 20 times before this Sunday, with mental illness often figuring in those encounters. The department had placed an officer caution on her address for this reason, meaning officers should be on alert for dangerous behavior from her. Despite repeated previous mental health referrals and the involvement of Child Protective Services, she was alone with her children on Sunday, in distress and with nowhere to turn but 911.

(SO she is OFFICIALLY KNOWN to cops as potentially dangerous? Again- what are mere cops supposed to do with her other than to defend themselves if she attacks? AS she had already been robbed it is likely she was agitated even BEFORE cops got there. Cops might have waited a while to see if she cooled off a bit? Or maybe the deliberate lack of attention and service might have provoked her further? There is no answer and no easy solution other than to persuade LIE-beral minded Hogs that they must provide care even if the patient refuses!)


Ms. Lyles’s situation is not unique. People with untreated mental illnesses are disproportionately likely to attract police attention. The combination of mental illness, racial segregation and poverty is particularly likely to result in police contact, often leading to arrest.

(OH typical LIE-beral garbage! The woman was robbed and IS ENTITLED to police aid- its just too bad LIE-berals will do nothing for her and leave it to police with their hands tied to deal with a total mess! Too many mentally ill persons COULD be stable members of society IF they were compelled to take their medication- and IF they were supplied with it!)

(LIE-berals have created a mental health revolving door- patient acts up and cops are called and gets committed and stabilized and is then released. Once back out, patient often stops taking `meds` due to unpleasant side effects- or is unable to afford meds and ends up in mental trouble again- with cops coming back to deal with patient yet again. This is NOT a cop failing, it is a LIE-beral govt failing with LIE-berals being too greedy to waste money on crazy people!)

In fact, a 2006 Bureau of Justice Statistics study revealed that 24 percent of state prisoners report a history of mental illness, with other sources reporting rates in some larger facilities as high as 70 percent. But it was not always the case that mental illness would result in the cycle of catch and release that evidently plagued Ms. Lyles.

What changed over the past half-century is that the United States has seen a stunning decline in resources devoted to public mental health — during the same time the nation adopted mass incarceration. A 2009 International Association of Chiefs of Police review reported that the available hospital beds for persons suffering from mental illness dropped by 95 percent from 1955 to 2005, to 17 beds per 100,000 persons from 340. From 1985 to 2005, the nation’s incarceration rate tripled.

(AS I said- greedy LIE-berals are keeping the cash and giving mental health sufferers their right- to be set free without adequate supports in place! And LIE-berals consider it unfair to force mental health patients to receive treatment anyway- they can be crazy if they wanna be!)

The shift away from hospital treatment of mental illness was not matched by an offsetting commitment to fund the health care people needed to live on the outside. Medicaid reimbursement rates are so low that it is difficult to find providers who will accept it. As a result, many people with mental illness are functionally uninsured for their most urgent health care needs. That is, state support for mental health retreated at the same time state investment in incarceration exploded — and both with disastrous results for vulnerable communities.

The consequence of the disinvestment in public mental health has also not affected all vulnerable communities equally. African-American people are at least as likely as white people to experience mental health distress but are half as likely to receive mental health treatment. This helps to explain why it’s easy to recall other high-profile cases of police use of deadly force involving black victims with documented histories of mental illness.

To be sure, the disproportionate rate of law enforcement violence against African-Americans has a host of contributing factors, including racial bias, both implicit and explicit. There is most likely no single explanation for the tragedy that occurred when Seattle Police Department officers shot and killed Ms. Lyles. But in her case and others like it, the failure of public mental health services appears to have been one important ingredient in a mix of forces that ultimately proved deadly. Without this failure, Sunday’s encounter might never have occurred.

(OH balls! Race has NOTHING to do with two cops trapped in a crowded room and shooting an enraged crazy woman coming at them with a knife- it’s a survival issue!)

If we are to protect families in similar situations, we must extend the lens of our concern beyond police-community interactions — even in cases where the police pull the trigger. A reinvestment in public mental health resources — including hospitals and, yes, better health care coverage for vulnerable Americans struggling with mental illness — are urgent necessities.

Of course, the cure for these too frequent police-involved shootings must include serious changes within law enforcement. But we must also recommit to changing how we manage mental health if we are to reduce the chances that illness will be treated with gunshots. It is what we owe to Ms. Lyles and to the children who survive her.

(Oh there is the knife in the back for cops to enjoy and to make selfish LIE-berals feel better! LIE-berals insist that “better cop training’ will resolve this issue? HAHAHAHAHA! LIE-berals should STOP lying about cop training and START thinking about giving more cops things like Tazers so they can knock down a crazy person without filling them full of .40mm Glock pistol holes! But here in Toronto, our LIE-berals refuse to give out Tazers to cops for fear cops will “misuse them”!) So Toronto cops- and a lot of Yankee ones too- can only pull out the Glock and blaze away to protect themselves! LIE-berals are desperately seeking a way to blame others for THEIR racist attitudes and lust for power! LIE-berals are afraid to tell the public the truth for fear of being voted out!)
 

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A man in Sacramento, CA, is fighting for his life in the intensive care unit after police officers pinned him to the scorching pavement while trying to arrest him last month.

James Bradford Nelson III, who was diagnosed with schizophrenia when he was a teenager, was acting erratically in a KFC parking lot when police arrived and attempted to subdue him. It was 100 degrees outside and by The Sacramento Bee’s estimates, roughly 170 degrees on the asphalt pavement at the time of Nelson’s arrest on June 23.

Since his arrest, Nelson has been in the UC Davis Medical Center burn unit with severe third and second degree burns on his face and upper torso. According to Fox40, Nelson has been in the burn unit for 29 days with burns that cover 45% of his body. Nelson’s mother, Tarsha Benigno, told The Bee that Nelson had been off his medication for two weeks and suffering from a schizophrenic episode when he was arrested.

Police officers contend that Nelson was aggressive and allegedly on drugs when they attempted to subdue him in the parking lot (police were unable to prove that he was on drugs, but found a pipe with traces of meth in the parking lot). Security footage inside the KFC shows that Nelson tried to jump the counter and took a swipe at the manager — he also unsuccessfully attempted to steal the manager’s wallet.


Eight police officers responded to the emergency call. A police statement reported by The Bee indicated that they found Nelson in the parking lot “displaying the objective signs of being under the influence of a controlled substance.” The report also suggested that police were entirely unaware of Nelson’s pain during the arrest / grilling.


The Bee noted:

During the entire contact and struggle on the ground, Nelson was not making sense with what he was saying,” Rinek’s statement reads. He added that he “didn’t hear any screaming” while Nelson was on the pavement, although another officer described him as “yelling” and flailing.

After holding him on the ground for five minutes, as approximated by the police report, officers noticed Nelson’s burns and doused him in water.

Nelson, who has been charged with attempted robbery, being under the influence of a controlled substance, and resisting arrest, does not remember the events leading up to his arrest. His mother and step father said that he had been in a car accident near the parking lot while visiting family — Nelson called his mother and told her that he would have his cousin bring him home. They did not hear from Nelson, or police, for three days before discovering he was in the intensive care unit with organ failure and severe burns.

Benigno has accused Sacramento police of torturing her son and exaggerating his behavior to excuse their own. On Friday, Black Lives Matter activists demonstrated outside the Citrus Heights, CA, police department. “We don’t care what he was doing,” the Facebook invitation read. “There is no reason to torture any human.”

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A man in Sacramento, CA, is fighting for his life in the intensive care unit after police officers pinned him to the scorching pavement while trying to arrest him last month.

James Bradford Nelson III, who was diagnosed with schizophrenia when he was a teenager, was acting erratically in a KFC parking lot when police arrived and attempted to subdue him. It was 100 degrees outside and by The Sacramento Bee’s estimates, roughly 170 degrees on the asphalt pavement at the time of Nelson’s arrest on June 23.

Since his arrest, Nelson has been in the UC Davis Medical Center burn unit with severe third and second degree burns on his face and upper torso. According to Fox40, Nelson has been in the burn unit for 29 days with burns that cover 45% of his body. Nelson’s mother, Tarsha Benigno, told The Bee that Nelson had been off his medication for two weeks and suffering from a schizophrenic episode when he was arrested.

Police officers contend that Nelson was aggressive and allegedly on drugs when they attempted to subdue him in the parking lot (police were unable to prove that he was on drugs, but found a pipe with traces of meth in the parking lot). Security footage inside the KFC shows that Nelson tried to jump the counter and took a swipe at the manager — he also unsuccessfully attempted to steal the manager’s wallet.


Eight police officers responded to the emergency call. A police statement reported by The Bee indicated that they found Nelson in the parking lot “displaying the objective signs of being under the influence of a controlled substance.” The report also suggested that police were entirely unaware of Nelson’s pain during the arrest / grilling.


The Bee noted:

During the entire contact and struggle on the ground, Nelson was not making sense with what he was saying,” Rinek’s statement reads. He added that he “didn’t hear any screaming” while Nelson was on the pavement, although another officer described him as “yelling” and flailing.

After holding him on the ground for five minutes, as approximated by the police report, officers noticed Nelson’s burns and doused him in water.

Nelson, who has been charged with attempted robbery, being under the influence of a controlled substance, and resisting arrest, does not remember the events leading up to his arrest. His mother and step father said that he had been in a car accident near the parking lot while visiting family — Nelson called his mother and told her that he would have his cousin bring him home. They did not hear from Nelson, or police, for three days before discovering he was in the intensive care unit with organ failure and severe burns.

Benigno has accused Sacramento police of torturing her son and exaggerating his behavior to excuse their own. On Friday, Black Lives Matter activists demonstrated outside the Citrus Heights, CA, police department. “We don’t care what he was doing,” the Facebook invitation read. “There is no reason to torture any human.”

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Yeah- nasty burns there T-gurly- but he WAS a loon behaving crazy and trying to steel stuff and etc.....cops had to act- and hey T-gurly- how come you did not answer my question- YOU KNOW the one- its the one that prompted you to get all gurly shy for a while and HIDE! It was nice not to get your e-mailed drivle but YOU DID NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION!

Let me refresh your memory there gurly- read it through again and I dare you to make some sensible comment on cop training that-in some sensible way- eliminate the need for cops to deal with crazy people! And then see if you can find some EXCUSE FOR NOT PUTTING THE PROBLEM ONTO THE DESKS OF LIE-berals who seem to think they need their gravy more than nuts need their meds! And while you are at it- give a moments thought for the cops rolling around in the same heat! |Now: go ahead and read and then run HIDE behind \Mothers skirts little gurl!

Here is an article damning cops with faint praise and illustrating that in some peoples eyes, cops are NEVER in the right! And it illustrates the utterly twisted value system of LIE-berals! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Charleena Lyles Needed Health Care. Instead, She Was Killed. 1/11

The New York Times. By PHILLIP ATIBA GOFF and KIM SHAYO BUCHANAN

Photos of Charleena Lyles, who was killed by the police in Seattle on Sunday/June 17/2017 . © Ken Lambert/The Seattle Times, via Associated Press Photos of Charleena Lyles,

On Sunday morning, two Seattle police officers shot and killed Charleena Lyles in her apartment. She was pregnant, and three of her four children were home. She had called the police to report a burglary. According to the officers’ account, shortly after they arrived, Ms. Lyles, who the police knew was mentally ill, pulled a knife. Both officers shot her. Societal failure to care for mental health, which leaves the police as mental illness first responders, may well have been one deadly ingredient in this tragic encounter.

(ONE DEADLY INGREDIENT? IT’S THE ONLY DEADLY INGREDIENT! What would LIE-beral minded morons have ordered to be done differently by cops? She was robbed and so police MUST speak to her? It is not the job of cops to order psychiatric care for her! Nor is it in their power to ORDER her to take her medication before they will deal with her! And they have no power to do so anyway!)

According to her family and police records, Ms. Lyles wrestled with significant mental health issues. An audiotape reveals officers discussing her police and mental health history immediately before the shooting. Seattle Police Department officers had been called to her residence more than 20 times before this Sunday, with mental illness often figuring in those encounters. The department had placed an officer caution on her address for this reason, meaning officers should be on alert for dangerous behavior from her. Despite repeated previous mental health referrals and the involvement of Child Protective Services, she was alone with her children on Sunday, in distress and with nowhere to turn but 911.

(SO she is OFFICIALLY KNOWN to cops as potentially dangerous? Again- what are mere cops supposed to do with her other than to defend themselves if she attacks? AS she had already been robbed it is likely she was agitated even BEFORE cops got there. Cops might have waited a while to see if she cooled off a bit? Or maybe the deliberate lack of attention and service might have provoked her further? There is no answer and no easy solution other than to persuade LIE-beral minded Hogs that they must provide care even if the patient refuses!)


Ms. Lyles’s situation is not unique. People with untreated mental illnesses are disproportionately likely to attract police attention. The combination of mental illness, racial segregation and poverty is particularly likely to result in police contact, often leading to arrest.

(OH typical LIE-beral garbage! The woman was robbed and IS ENTITLED to police aid- its just too bad LIE-berals will do nothing for her and leave it to police with their hands tied to deal with a total mess! Too many mentally ill persons COULD be stable members of society IF they were compelled to take their medication- and IF they were supplied with it!)

(LIE-berals have created a mental health revolving door- patient acts up and cops are called and gets committed and stabilized and is then released. Once back out, patient often stops taking `meds` due to unpleasant side effects- or is unable to afford meds and ends up in mental trouble again- with cops coming back to deal with patient yet again. This is NOT a cop failing, it is a LIE-beral govt failing with LIE-berals being too greedy to waste money on crazy people!)

In fact, a 2006 Bureau of Justice Statistics study revealed that 24 percent of state prisoners report a history of mental illness, with other sources reporting rates in some larger facilities as high as 70 percent. But it was not always the case that mental illness would result in the cycle of catch and release that evidently plagued Ms. Lyles.

What changed over the past half-century is that the United States has seen a stunning decline in resources devoted to public mental health — during the same time the nation adopted mass incarceration. A 2009 International Association of Chiefs of Police review reported that the available hospital beds for persons suffering from mental illness dropped by 95 percent from 1955 to 2005, to 17 beds per 100,000 persons from 340. From 1985 to 2005, the nation’s incarceration rate tripled.

(AS I said- greedy LIE-berals are keeping the cash and giving mental health sufferers their right- to be set free without adequate supports in place! And LIE-berals consider it unfair to force mental health patients to receive treatment anyway- they can be crazy if they wanna be!)

The shift away from hospital treatment of mental illness was not matched by an offsetting commitment to fund the health care people needed to live on the outside. Medicaid reimbursement rates are so low that it is difficult to find providers who will accept it. As a result, many people with mental illness are functionally uninsured for their most urgent health care needs. That is, state support for mental health retreated at the same time state investment in incarceration exploded — and both with disastrous results for vulnerable communities.

The consequence of the disinvestment in public mental health has also not affected all vulnerable communities equally. African-American people are at least as likely as white people to experience mental health distress but are half as likely to receive mental health treatment. This helps to explain why it’s easy to recall other high-profile cases of police use of deadly force involving black victims with documented histories of mental illness.

To be sure, the disproportionate rate of law enforcement violence against African-Americans has a host of contributing factors, including racial bias, both implicit and explicit. There is most likely no single explanation for the tragedy that occurred when Seattle Police Department officers shot and killed Ms. Lyles. But in her case and others like it, the failure of public mental health services appears to have been one important ingredient in a mix of forces that ultimately proved deadly. Without this failure, Sunday’s encounter might never have occurred.

(OH balls! Race has NOTHING to do with two cops trapped in a crowded room and shooting an enraged crazy woman coming at them with a knife- it’s a survival issue!)

If we are to protect families in similar situations, we must extend the lens of our concern beyond police-community interactions — even in cases where the police pull the trigger. A reinvestment in public mental health resources — including hospitals and, yes, better health care coverage for vulnerable Americans struggling with mental illness — are urgent necessities.

Of course, the cure for these too frequent police-involved shootings must include serious changes within law enforcement. But we must also recommit to changing how we manage mental health if we are to reduce the chances that illness will be treated with gunshots. It is what we owe to Ms. Lyles and to the children who survive her.

(Oh there is the knife in the back for cops to enjoy and to make selfish LIE-berals feel better! LIE-berals insist that “better cop training’ will resolve this issue? HAHAHAHAHA! LIE-berals should STOP lying about cop training and START thinking about giving more cops things like Tazers so they can knock down a crazy person without filling them full of .40mm Glock pistol holes! But here in Toronto, our LIE-berals refuse to give out Tazers to cops for fear cops will “misuse them”!) So Toronto cops- and a lot of Yankee ones too- can only pull out the Glock and blaze away to protect themselves! LIE-berals are desperately seeking a way to blame others for THEIR racist attitudes and lust for power! LIE-berals are afraid to tell the public the truth for fear of being voted out!)
 

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Yeah- nasty burns there T-gurly- but he WAS a loon behaving crazy and trying to steel stuff and etc.....cops had to act- and hey T-gurly- how come you did not answer my question- YOU KNOW the one- its the one that prompted you to get all gurly shy for a while and HIDE! It was nice not to get your e-mailed drivle but YOU DID NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION!

Because there's no point in it. You're an imbecile.

But laughing at you is fun.
 

tay

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Yeah- nasty burns there T-gurly- but he WAS a loon behaving crazy and trying to steel stuff and etc.....cops had to act- and hey T-gurly- how come you did not answer my question- YOU KNOW the one- its the one that prompted you to get all gurly shy for a while and HIDE! It was nice not to get your e-mailed drivle but YOU DID NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION!

Let me refresh your memory there gurly- read it through again and I dare you to make some sensible comment on cop training that-in some sensible way- eliminate the need for cops to deal with crazy people! And then see if you can find some EXCUSE FOR NOT PUTTING THE PROBLEM ONTO THE DESKS OF LIE-berals who seem to think they need their gravy more than nuts need their meds! And while you are at it- give a moments thought for the cops rolling around in the same heat! |Now: go ahead and read and then run HIDE behind \Mothers skirts little gurl!

Here is an article damning cops with faint praise and illustrating that in some peoples eyes, cops are NEVER in the right! And it illustrates the utterly twisted value system of LIE-berals! With some comments of my own in brackets):

So Toronto cops- and a lot of Yankee ones too- can only pull out the Glock and blaze away to protect themselves! LIE-berals are desperately seeking a way to blame others for THEIR racist attitudes and lust for power! LIE-berals are afraid to tell the public the truth for fear of being voted out!)

Ummmm.......Just what kind of beer are you drinking and spilling?

I'm not sure what you are ranting about. No one has said Cops are never right. Many actually are as we see by the Posts in the Humanity and other threads. All's I am doing is posting stories of Cops behaving badly. I'm baffled as to why you are using the phrase LIE-berals because neither the Police or victims have identified their Political persuasion if they even have any.



For the record, the OPP Officer who saved my life 2 weeks ago is priceless and I hope to have him recognized as such............


Documents show that Southaven officers went to the wrong house to serve a warrant on Monday, which resulted in the shooting death of a man who did not have any active warrants out for his arrest.

A warrant out of Tate County shows Samuel Pearman was wanted for domestic assault. But, when Southaven officers arrived on Surrey Lane to arrest Pearman, they did not show up to the correct house.

Instead, officers missed their target by 36 feet. Those 36 feet made all the difference to Ismael Lopez and his wife.

"Someone didn't take the time to analyze the address," attorney Murray Wells, who represents the family, said. "This is incredibly tragic and embarrassing to this police department that they can't read house numbers."

Wells pointed out that the house officers should have gone to, the one where Pearman was located, had a large 'P' on the door. While officials sort out what happened, the man they were looking for took to social media.

Wells described Lopez as a hardworking employee who, up until about four years ago, worked for City of Bartlett as a mechanic.

"They've been in that home for 13 years. The only time the police had ever been there was when they had been robbed," Wells said. "No criminal history whatsoever. A long-standing employee of the city of Bartlett, mechanic. Loved in the neighborhood."

http://m.wmctv.com/wmctv/db_401748/contentdetail.htm?full=true&contentguid=AUdiWnEV&pn=&ps=#display
 

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Ex-cop found guilty of tossing semen on co-worker


Iscenko, 56, was found guilty of one count of third-degree sex abuse for the bizarre Jan. 23, 2015, attack. He was already fired because of the incident.

He faces up to three months in jail when Justice Mellissa Jackson sentences him next month. The glum-looking former cop declined comment as he left court flanked by his dejected wife.

His victim, an NYPD administrative aide who had the glob of white gunk lobbed at her, testified last week at the trial.

“I felt something cold and wet behind my leg,” she said. “I turned to look and saw a creamy substance.”

The 63-year-old woman said she looked over her shoulder and saw her co-worker, Iscenko.

“I saw Mike behind me and told him, ‘Ewww! Why did you do that?’ in disgust, and he just looked at me and walked to his office,” the victim said.

She won $147,250 in a suit against the city.

Surveillance video played in court shows Iscenko crouching behind the victim near the elevator banks, flinging the substance on her, then scurrying off.

Iscenko’s lawyer, Michael Horn, who did not present any witnesses and told jurors that the substance was saliva and not semen.
Assistant District Attorney Emily Ching insisted that lab tests prove “there is no other substance this can be other than seminal fluid.”

Ex-cop found guilty of tossing semen on co-worker | New York Post
 

spilledthebeer

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Because there's no point in it. You're an imbecile.

But laughing at you is fun.

Yeah hey little T-gurly you just keep on laughing while anybody with an ounce of sense or compassion KEEPS ASKING WHY LIE-berals REFUSE to help these people and instead let them wander the streets till they get into serious trouble! Many mental conditions- even yours- can be cured these days with the right cocktail of medications and it would save all kinds of mayhem if LIE-berals would DO SOMETHING!

And of course T-gurly you ARE part of the problem- blinded by your irrational hate of cops and blindly following a pack of LIE-berals in hope of personal gain and who gives a shit about crazed guys terrorizing the neighbourhood. People DO have the right to travel about without being robbed, beaten or harassed by thugs and crazy people but apparently YOU dont see this! HAHAHA- what a maroon!

Or maybe its something more sinister? Your contempt for logic and sensible choice is well into psychopath territory! Is that your problem T-gurl? You do not feel their pain? Only your own?

So here is another one for you to whine about T-gurl! See what you have to say about this cop training:

Here is an older article illustrating how and why some black people get shot by cops. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Video shows struggle, then shooting that paralyzed Iowa man

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS. First posted: Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:01 PM EST | Updated: Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:05 PM EST

In this image made from a Nov. 1, 2016 dashcam video released Thursday, Dec. 8, 2016, by Cedar Rapids Police Department, an unarmed black motorist struggles with an Iowa officer and a police dog before the driver is shot and paralyzed. (Cedar Rapids Police Department via AP)

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa — An unarmed black driver struggled with an Iowa officer and a police dog before the officer shot the motorist as he tried to get away in his pickup truck, paralyzing him, dashcam video released Thursday shows.

Driver Jerime Mitchell managed to get back inside the vehicle with officer Lucas Jones clinging to his body by the open driver’s side door. The video shows Jones shooting Mitchell at close range after the truck starts to roll.

The video seems unlikely to resolve a debate over whether the Cedar Rapids policeman acted appropriately during the Nov. 1 shooting of the 37-year-old Mitchell. A Linn County grand jury decided Monday not to indict Jones. County Attorney Jerry Vander Sanden said the video shows that Mitchell resisted Jones and the officer fired in self-defense.

(The driver is being hauled at by both a cop and a police dog and still manages to get up and get in the truck and try to drive away? Some people are to tough and full of fight for their own good! People who surrender quietly DO NOT get shot!)

Mitchell disputes that account, arguing that the officer was the aggressor. His supporters have blasted the prosecutor for ending the secret grand jury inquiry without obtaining any statement or testimony from Mitchell, who is hospitalized with a bullet lodged in his neck and unable to move most his body.

“I was unarmed. I never struck the officer, or the dog. This has changed my life forever,” Mitchell said in a statement released Wednesday. “No one should ever be treated the way I was that night.”

(The tragic stupidity of driver Mitchell is on display here- so what if he never struck the cop or the dog-all that matters is he was trying to FLEE police custody!)

After keeping the dashcam video from the public during the investigation, the Cedar Rapids Police Department released it to news media Thursday. The conversation between Jones and Mitchell can’t be heard. Police said Jones’ body microphone wasn’t working.

The video shows Jones pulling Mitchell over at 1:17 a.m. Investigators say Jones initiated the stop because the light bulbs that illuminate the license plate on Mitchell’s truck were burned out — an $87 infraction. Police have said that Jones asked Mitchell to get out of the vehicle after smelling marijuana.

(Oh great- ANOTHER stupid black stoner who should not have been behind the wheel at all and got shot for being too stupid to deal with the trouble intelligently!)

After Mitchell gets out, Jones stands behind him and begins to handcuff him. The two exchange words and Mitchell appears to resist being cuffed. Jones pushes Mitchell against the truck, then takes him to the ground.

With the officer clinging to his back, Mitchell gets up from the ground. The barking dog runs toward Mitchell, but it’s not clear if the animal bites him.

Mitchell climbs back inside the vehicle with Jones holding on to him. Jones reaches for his gun, then the truck begins to roll. Jones fires three times before falling to the street as the truck speeds off.

(IN other words, Mitchell has committed a series of infractions of the law and now wants to blame the cop for his stupidity in deciding to fight it out!)

Vander Sanden said Jones feared the truck would run him over. He said Mitchell could have avoided being shot had he complied with the officer.

Betty Andrews, president of the Iowa-Nebraska chapter of the NAACP, said the video showed “high-level inconsistencies” with the prosecutor’s account. She said Mitchell’s license plate lights appear to be working and that Mitchell initially co-operated by handing the officer his identification and getting out.

“Why was Jerime stopped and why was he pursued so aggressively?” Andrews said. “We have grave concerns when this video and what was presented to us by the county attorney are like night and day.”

(This is the fine whine of radical blacks pushing a reverse discrimination agenda! White people are expected to keep their vehicles in working order and to park it when stoned- why not the same standard for black fools?)

Mitchell’s brother, Rosevelt Milam, said the video supports Mitchell’s claim that the officer threw him against the truck, took him down, released his police dog to attack, and shot him as Mitchell tried to get away from the officer and the animal.

Mitchell disputed the prosecutor’s claim that he cursed at Jones and dared him to release the dog. Mitchell said that the audio of the encounter “would tell a completely different story” if available.

Mitchell didn’t address the prosecutor’s claim that he had a pound of marijuana and was on his way to make a drug deal when stopped. But he said he was portrayed “completely different from my true character.”

(OH RIGHT- just a good old boy who `wrassles` with cops for fun!)

His wife, Bracken Mitchell, said Mitchell’s hospital stay will be covered by insurance through Jan. 10, and it’s not clear what will happen then. She said the couple likely won’t be able to stay in their home because her husband will need different accommodations.

Jones, an officer since 2011, remains on leave while the department conducts an administrative investigation into the shooting, police spokesman Greg Buelow said.

(And it would seem the dept also wanted to shy away from public exposure of Mitchell as a drug dealing, violence prone stoner who should NOT have been driving that day at all! The cop was just doing his job! Can we imagine the squealing rage of black radicals if a white stoner had run over a black kid before cops had taken the stoner off the road? The Mitchell complaint DIES at the point wher he is impaired and not fit to operate a vehicle and tries to fight it out with the cop! There is NO HONEST way to legally defend a guy like Mitchell! Black radicals resort to shameless bigotry in this!)
 

spilledthebeer

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Mississippi cops shot a man dead last Sunday. Wrong address.

Oops.

Thank you T-gurly- YOU PROVED MY POINT! That too many people have no clue how to behave around cops! or maybe the guy had OTHER issues? Other outstanding warrants and such? Or mental health challenges?

And how sad you continue to hide behind Moms skirts on this issue of getting medical help for crazy people! If they got their meds in some sensible and regular way then they would not run crazy and the frightened public would not need cops to corral the crazies!

Your choice to IGNORE the real solution to these problems reveals real problems on your part!

You are a pathetic creature with no honest solutions to anything- just a little gurl WHINING!
 

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Thank you T-gurly- YOU PROVED MY POINT! That too many people have no clue how to behave around cops!



I know, right? When a bunch of guys break down your door screaming 'POLICE! GET ON THE GROUND!!!', you should automatically instantly say yes sir and lie down without even wondering if they are the police or not. And the whole concept of asking for a warrant or any ID would be ridiculous.


As soon as someone claims to be police, you should just do what they say, not matter what.