Study: Religion may become extinct in nine nations
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Explain Adam and Eve in the context of Darwin's theory of evolution.
No Avro, I won't. You're really not interested and I'm not going to waste my time. You want to learn about how Science and Religious Faith can co-exist? You can start your education here.
Catholic Culture : Library : The Faith and Reason of Father George Lemaître
Amazing how people who do not believe in anything have become so virulent in what they preach. They are just as radical and evangical as those they detest and mock.
Oh I'm interested all right....I'm interested to know how much of "the word" in the bible has been cast aside and how you know what is truth from fiction.....the church has been pounded by science for eons and have had to consistently adapted to it and not the other way around, further making "the word" more meaningless.
So you are a Catholic.
Ever worn a rubber?
Can gays Marry?
Can women be priests?
Can women have an abortion?
When you unleash rage and vulgarity at me is it faith that compells you?
You're as narrow minded as some of the fundamentalists on this board. But I'll answer you anyways.
Yes, to prevent STD's
Of course they can, don't you remember the law passed here in Canada?
No, women can not become Priests in the Catholic Faith.
Of course women can have an abortion, that is also allowed here in Canada..... where is it you live again?
Nope, my "faith" has nothing to do with me getting pi ssed at your ignorance.
Explain Adam and Eve in the context of Darwin's theory of evolution.
I'll take a stab at it. Adam and Eve is a wonderful allegory that mourns the loss of innocence of human beings when we became truly self-aware. Our primate ancestors were provided for by God, so they lived from day-to-day, foraging for food, making love and not fretting over the Big Questions: Right and Wrong, how to organize a society or what purpose there cam be in a brief, finite existence that will end in our death and our childrens' childrens' childrens' death. But once our cortex evolved, we lost our innocence and became able to question the wisdom of the Universe (i.e., God) and we became responsibnle for our lives and oiur sustenance. Our lust was now, not only a beautiful drive that allowed us to "be fruitful and multiply", but could lead to rape and child abuse. It became a potential source of shame. We became worldly and self-centered, in love with how smart we had become after eating the Apple. We became vain and capable of sin, like lies, theft and murder. So we cast ourselves out of the Paradise of innocence into the harsh world where we would be forced to choose our actions in a minefield of good and evil, with only our limited brains and pleasure-driven natures as guides. The Lord, knowing our weakness, foresaw the misery we had unleashed on ourselves through our foolish pride, when we succumbed to the bad influence of the Serpent appealing to our baser nature and turn our backs on God.
At least this is one interpretation. There are, of course, many more.
Some see it as a metaphor for our transition from simple animals to what we are now: scientists, artists and philosophers. In this version, God is our "natural", animal nature, while the serpent is like Prometheus, giving us our intellect (instead of fire), with which we can cast off our subservient role and become truly human.
When it is a positive force, religion gives us a mythic understanding of our humanity with its trials and joys and gives us some insight into the deeper wisdom about our lives that does not chamge with advances in scientific knowledge or technology.
I am sure I could get some Stalin and Pol Pot pictures posted up here but why bother.
But what makes a guy(s) come on the forum and preach vehemently against those who believe? I am not saying that he (they) does not have the right to be here but he is no different from the radical religious ones that preach on here. If you don't want to believe then don't.
Why mock those that...
Aren't taking part in Medieval Crusades...
Putting Jewish people on the rack...
Owning slaves and fighting Union troops in the 1860s...
Flying planes into buildings...
molesting children...
Any reason why you feel compelled?
But what makes a guy(s) come on the forum and preach vehemently against those who believe? I am not saying that he (they) does not have the right to be here but he is no different from the radical religious ones that preach on here. If you don't want to believe then don't.
Why mock those that...
Aren't taking part in Medieval Crusades...
Putting Jewish people on the rack...
Owning slaves and fighting Union troops in the 1860s...
Flying planes into buildings...
molesting children...
Any reason why you feel compelled?
According to the church, not Canadian law.....silly billy.
Why God Did Not Create the Universe
It's now coming to a point where all the church can do is say the big bang was God blowing his load and that's when it all began. However, science is getting so good that they are peeling back the layers to see what was there before the big bang....then I imagine the story with people who belive in something based on nothing will adapt to keep those plates full and leaving little boys with sore bottoms.
Another non sequitur. You are bringing up a point that has nothing to do with the issue of religious belief. I don't have to prove anything about any scientific study. You have to provide proof that will stand up without being labeled nothing more than a belief. Unfortunately so far as religion is concerned, belief is all you have.
The fact is, you can`t prove black holes OR the Big Bang. You expect others to "prove" their beliefs, yet you are unwilling to do exactly what you are expecting others to do. Hypocritical much?
Why bother proving anything so far as science is concerned? I am certain I could give you irrefutable evidence of the creation of the universe by non-scientific means and you would reject it. As I pointed out religion is about the rejection of scientific thought. It has to be in order for any logical person to believe most of the unscientific gobbledygook associated with religion.
You seem to be assuming that the suspension of rational thought so far as religion is concerned means that I think religious types are lacking in intelligence. Far from it. I know of many people who are highly intelligent who have religious beliefs. However, in most cases the mind-block regarding their religious values prevents them from a rational discussion of their beliefs. The best that they can usually come up with is that they believe what they do because they believe what they do.
I'm with Joe Rogan on this one - "I like to memorize **** that really smart people already figured out."
Joe Rogan on Talking Monkeys | Free Video Clips | SPIKE
How would you deal with a belief in a mystical figure who is known to perform miraculous events many of which have been witnessed by millions of people? Not only that but this same mystical figure has been written about in thousands of books, featured in numerous films, and sung about in hundreds or even thousands of songs. He is also prayed to on a regular basis and asked to repeat his miracles again and again. The tendency for many people would be to believe in such a figure whether he exists or not. BTW I'm not talking about Jesus I'm talking about Santa Claus for whom there is just as much scientific evidence as the existence of the Biblical messiah.
The fact is you can't offer irrefutable evidence concerning the creation of the universe.
As for your BS comment about religion rejecting scientific thought, go back through the thread and read the link I provided.
Why do you come to a debate forum and ask people why they're debating?
Despite you quoting me in this post, I'm almost certain it's not in response to anything I said.
