Study finds marijuana use among teens may cause permanent brain durrrrrrrrr

[Tecumsehsbones]

Almost, if not all, aboriginal tribes in the world used naturally occurring drugs for mid expansion, but did so in a ceremonial context, never for recreational purposes. This is where the problem has come up. These plants are meant for medicinal or mind expansion purposes. It is the abuse of drugs that causes the problems. When used properly, psychotropic substances can be very beneficial. According to Terrence Mckenna human evolution was enhanced by these substances, why we seem to have evolved so quickly.

I'm not so sure about "never for recreational purposes." The Shawnee smoked kinnikinnick, a mixture of tobacco, marijuana, and various other aromatic herbs, for relaxation and recreation as well as for ceremonical purposes. That's at least two mind-altering substances (THC and nicotine).

 

[JLM]

Calling reefer a narcotic so they could put people in jail longer was a brilliant move.What pisses me off is all the morons that believe that pot IS a narcotic.

It's all a matter of semantics! I don't really give a sh*t what they want to call it.

In a perfect world people wouldn't feel the need to mind-alter at all, be it pot, booze or any other substance ingested purely for that purpose, but given my first hand experience with the damage alcohol can do I'd have to go on record as saying that pot is the lesser evil.

You're probably right although back in my drinking days I often found (or thought I'd found) my best thinking was done after a skin full of beer.

Almost, if not all, aboriginal tribes in the world used naturally occurring drugs for mid expansion, but did so in a ceremonial context, never for recreational purposes. This is where the problem has come up. These plants are meant for medicinal or mind expansion purposes. It is the abuse of drugs that causes the problems. When used properly, psychotropic substances can be very beneficial. According to Terrence Mckenna human evolution was enhanced by these substances, why we seem to have evolved so quickly.

Terence Mckenna on human evolution and the imagination - YouTube

They say that mid expansion can lead to heart disease. -

 

[#juan]

It's not as if they don't arrest people for pot offenses......:roll:

One Marijuana Arrest Occurs Every 42 Seconds In U.S.: FBI Report

 

[JLM]

It's not as if they don't arrest people for pot offenses......:roll:

One Marijuana Arrest Occurs Every 42 Seconds In U.S.: FBI Report

There goes those deceiving statistics again. Let's say half the U.S. smokes pot or about 160 million. At the rate of one every 42 seconds it would take 5114 years to arrest everyone. (which becomes kind of a moot point) It also might lull a person into lack of vigilance!

 

[Mowich]

I'm not so sure about "never for recreational purposes." The Shawnee smoked kinnikinnick, a mixture of tobacco, marijuana, and various other aromatic herbs, for relaxation and recreation as well as for ceremonical purposes. That's at least two mind-altering substances (THC and nicotine).

Arctostaphylos uva-ursi, also known as kinnikinnick grows wild in my garden. It has the prettiest little pink bell-shaped flowers when it blooms in the spring. The dried leaves were used by many cultures over the centuries as a tonic and diuretic. Never tried smoking it though.

 

[WLDB]

And yet every single society we are aware of has found a way to alter its perceptions with natural or artificial chemicals.

Maybe a stoned world is a perfect world.

I once read an article which suggested the agricultural revolution began not for food but basically for drugs, probably alcohol. They suggested that people got drunk, made the connection to fermented fruit and wanted to keep doing it so they learned how to grow it. I have no idea if its true or not but I thought it was an interesting and funny idea.

For me it all goes to the motivations behind an action. "Why ?" I can see a few "legitimate" reasons behind some forms of mind-altering, but at the same time I can see a plethora of bad reasons, chiefly "bad" in an unhealthy context.

It desnt really matter to me. If they want to its good enough for me. If they damage or kill themselves as a result - well, they knew it was risky. Its their lives and their bodies, not mine.

 

[L Gilbert]

Don't bet your first born!

We did. By the time our kids mentioned pot, we had developed a lot of trust and gathered a lot of info about pot to share with them. The one thing we stressed the most was that it's recreational and if they were going to try it, to remember that it is recreational and not the way to deal with life's problems. Booze is treated the same way here.
The oldest quit altogether when she had our grandson. The youngest still uses pot, but doesn't smoke it (particulates are not good for lungs and she's got a PhD in health sciences, in particular she is an emergency peds nurse, so she knows what particulates do to lungs quite well) and only uses it once every week or so. Wife doesn't like the smell of pot and it bothers my stomach but we would try it in cookies or something if the opportunity arose.

What I meant was what was the point of the study if everyone already knew the results?

Researchers do that a lot.

 

[JLM]

We did. By the time our kids mentioned pot, we had developed a lot of trust and gathered a lot of info about pot to share with them. The one thing we stressed the most was that it's recreational and if they were going to try it, to remember that it is recreational and not the way to deal with life's problems. Booze is treated the same way here.
The oldest quit altogether when she had our grandson. The youngest still uses pot, but doesn't smoke it (particulates are not good for lungs and she's got a PhD in health sciences, in particular she is an emergency peds nurse, so she knows what particulates do to lungs quite well) and only uses it once every week or so. Wife doesn't like the smell of pot and it bothers my stomach but we would try it in cookies or something if the opportunity arose.

Researchers do that a lot.

- I think I'd prefer oatmeal in cookies!

 

[#juan]

There goes those deceiving statistics again. Let's say half the U.S. smokes pot or about 160 million. At the rate of one every 42 seconds it would take 5114 years to arrest everyone. (which becomes kind of a moot point) It also might lull a person into lack of vigilance!

I think your math is screwed up. There are 31,536,000 seconds in a year.

 

[L Gilbert]

Arctostaphylos uva-ursi, also known as kinnikinnick grows wild in my garden. It has the prettiest little pink bell-shaped flowers when it blooms in the spring. The dried leaves were used by many cultures over the centuries as a tonic and diuretic. Never tried smoking it though.

Yeah, the little shrubs sure are spread around here, too. I like them but wife finds them mildly annoying sometimes. Comfrey is one that can be quite annoying and the same for chicory, loosestrife, knotweed, and bracken.

- I think I'd prefer oatmeal in cookies!

Meh, I can do without it but I do like it for hot cereal. I prefer ginger or peanut butter for cookies.

 

[karrie]

In a perfect world people wouldn't feel the need to mind-alter at all, be it pot, booze or any other substance ingested purely for that purpose, but given my first hand experience with the damage alcohol can do I'd have to go on record as saying that pot is the lesser evil.

Each as their downfalls, and each has people for who they will be a problem.

 

[JLM]

I think your math is screwed up. There are 31,536,000 seconds in a year.

Yep, I missed one step. OK then How about 213 years before everyone is arrested? Still pretty slow justice! -

Meh, I can do without it but I do like it for hot cereal. I prefer ginger or peanut butter for cookies.

Yep, they are both very good.

There goes those deceiving statistics again. Let's say half the U.S. smokes pot or about 160 million. At the rate of one every 42 seconds it would take 5114 years to arrest everyone. (which becomes kind of a moot point) It also might lull a person into lack of vigilance!

OOOOOOh, ooooooooh mea culpa- divide that by 24 for the correct answer. God damned Alzheimers. -

 

[Cliffy]

Arctostaphylos uva-ursi, also known as kinnikinnick grows wild in my garden. It has the prettiest little pink bell-shaped flowers when it blooms in the spring. The dried leaves were used by many cultures over the centuries as a tonic and diuretic. Never tried smoking it though.

If smoking kinnikinnik, mix with the dried cambium of red willow, as without it kinnikinnik can cause severe headaches. Mixed with sweetgrass and red willow is what I was taught to use in the sacred pipe. A very pleasant and uplifting smoke. No stone or physical high but a pure spiritual and emotional one.

 

[L Gilbert]

meh Anyone deliberately polluting their lungs with particulates is fair game for squirrels hunting food for the winters. Wifey's dad smokes but he just puffs and doesn't inhale. He's pretty bright.

 

[Nick Danger]

Each as their downfalls, and each has people for who they will be a problem.

True, but it just seems that the downfalls for alcohol are more severe than those for pot. Marijuana related accidents and deaths are rare compared to those related to alcohol. Instances of pot fueled violence are extremely rare, alcohol related violence not so much.

 

[JLM]

Marijuana more risky for teens than previously thought - British Columbia - CBC News

 

[EagleSmack]

No, why argue it? They have fairly easy access to alcohol, why would anybody get their panties in a knot over pot smoking? They already have access to pot too and no amount of arguing or laws is going to curtail them.

Guns too!

 

[Zipperfish]

Problem is, by the time I wasn't a teen, I wasn't that interested anymore. If you read the study, it's not saying much new--that for the vast majority of users it doesn't do much in the way of harm, but for some it can be quite harmful.

I haven't read the study, but the article linked here is simply wrong about the schizophrenia link. It says that there has been a marked increase in schizophrenia due to pot smoking, but if you look at teh history of schizophrenia diagnosis, you don't see a spike in the 60 and 70s when pot started to become widely used. This has been raised as an issue in studies past, and it's the reason that the most you can really say is that pot smoking as a teen may lead to early onset of schizophrenia that would have happened anyway.

Anyways, the truth is right in front of your eyes. The biggest threat to teen pot smokers is that they won't get off their lazy asses to work and will suffer from "Failure to launch."