Stephen Harper’s Canada: The Legacy of Tyrants

[Hoid]

:lol: You silly little dickweed. Your argument isn't with me, it's with Natural Resources Canada, StatsCan and the NEB.

From StatsCan: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=2510004601 You can see the thermal coal exports for the last quarter of 2018 plus Jan 2019.

From the NEB: https://www.neb-one.gc.ca/nrg/ntgrtd/mrkt/snpsht/2018/09-01cndnclprdctn-eng.html

From Natural Resources Canada: https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/energy/facts/coal/20071 Which means that 7% of coal exports are thermal coal. And since the vast bulk of that coal is bound for Asia, guess where the f*ck it gets shipped from. Go ahead, I'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count.

Or are you suggesting that these organs of the Groper govt are in fact lying about coal exports.

no canadian thermal coal goes to china through the port of vancouver
in fact no thermal coal at all goes through the port of vancouver to china.
and from your own link:

Total coal production is expected to decline to 34.3 MT by 2040. This would be primarily caused by lower thermal coal production resulting from provincial and federal commitments to phase out the use of coal in power generation. On the other hand, production of metallurgical coal is expected to increase slightly. Continued development and population growth in the Asian-Pacific regions are expected to increase future demand for metallurgical coal. Given Canada’s reserves of quality metallurgical coal and its proximity to the Asian-Pacific market, it is in a position to capture a portion of the increasing demand from the Asian-Pacific region.

 

[Hoid]

You will note the word "commitments"

We are not stopping the export of thermal coal on a whim

 

[Twin_Moose]

Bahahaha the article is talking about coal production overall domestic and exported note the line

This would be primarily caused by lower thermal coal production resulting from provincial and federal commitments to phase out the use of coal in power generation

As you can plainly see lowering thermal production do to domestic demand export is and will go on

 

[Hoid]

No thermal coal goes through port of vancouver to china.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Oh OK stick to your ignorance if you close your eyes I guess it maybe true, even though countless links were provided to you that differ from your opinion

 

[pgs]

No thermal coal goes through port of vancouver to china.

So where does all that thermal coal coming via BNR ( Warren Buffets railroad ) to Roberts Bank get shipped to ?

 

[Hoid]

So where does all that thermal coal coming via BNR ( Warren Buffets railroad ) to Roberts Bank get shipped to ?

Chile/South Korea/Japan

Second time this has been stated.

 

[pgs]

Chile/South Korea/Japan

Second time this has been stated.

And the big one China . But don’t worry with the new coal fields being developed in China they will be able to continue to built coal fired electrical plants while decreasing their consumption of imported coal .

 

[Hoid]

You are literally the last person to be talking about coal.

YOU know nothing about it.

IN fact China is importing zero coal right now as far as I know.

 

[Twin_Moose]

From Canada not the US where it is generated from running through Vancouver

 

[Hoid]

Oh OK stick to your ignorance if you close your eyes I guess it maybe true, even though countless links were provided to you that differ from your opinion

How would you know what they prove

As we have all just seen you don't even read them

 

[Jinentonix]

You are literally the last person to be talking about coal.
YOU know nothing about it.
IN fact China is importing zero coal right now as far as I know.

Well, IN FACT as usual you know nothing. YOU are literally the last person to be talking about coal. YOU know NOTHING about it.

In January, China imported 12.3 million tonnes of Indonesian coal, the highest monthly total since Refinitiv started monitoring in January 2015.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ces-tell-a-better-story-russell-idUSKCN1Q30HM

According to Reuters, coal imports to China surged this year already.

As for where the coal gets exported from in Canada, there are only three coal export terminals, 2 in Vancouver and one in Thunder Bay. I can guarantee you that the coal being shipped to Asia (including thermal coal) is NOT being shipped out of Thunder Bay.

But as I stated before, you suffer severely from diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of thought.

 

[spilledthebeer]

Harper was right about one thing?

That sounds like a reach.

And HOID LOGIC DOESNT STRETCH THAT FAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



You missed again LIE-beral propaganda meister!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Twin_Moose]

You are literally the last person to be talking about coal.
YOU know nothing about it.
IN fact China is importing zero coal right now as far as I know.

 

[Danbones]

Worst. PM.Ever.

With the UCP victory in Alberta over 80% of Canada's population reject the ideas of Justin Trudeau!


Arana Nation
Published on Apr 17, 2019

From Alberta to New Brunswick Canadians have shown their complete hatred of the ideas of Justin the tacky headed Mackdaddy Trudeau by voting in staunchly anti Trudeau Premiers in various Provinces! Alberta has Jason Kenney, Saskatchewan has Scott Moe, Manitoba has Brian Pallister, Ontario has Doug Ford, Quebec has Francois Legault and New Brunswick has Brian Higgs!

LOL, you just can't tell the truth about anything can you?

Looks like it's U.N.trudie who isn't doing too well on the vlad pole.

 

[Hoid]

China halted all coal imports last year.

No thermal coal goes through Port of Vancouver to China.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Moving the goal posts again?

China to cap 2019 coal imports to help domestic producers

SHANGHAI (Reuters) - China’s government will cap coal imports this year at 2018 levels, four sources with direct knowledge of the matter told Reuters on Tuesday, to support domestic producers.The world’s biggest coal consumer imported 281.23 million tonnes of coal in 2018 including thermal coal, coking coal and anthracite.

Chen Bin, deputy chief engineer of the fuel department at China Datang Corp, also said that imported coal has advantages on price, quality and accessibility, especially to utilities located in coastal regions.
“We are planning to sign more long-term contracts with overseas miners,” Chen told Reuters on the sideline of the Coaltrans conference.

Are we done?

 

[Hoid]

Moving what goal posts?

This is an argument that you wandered into for some reason.

The claim was made that there are large piles of coal in Vancouver that are being shipped to China to fuel their power plants.

I mentioned that absolutely no coal was going through the port of Vancouver to fuel chinese power plants.

Those are the goal posts

 

[Hoid]

as far as being done goes - I doubt it.

what good is being a climate change denier when there is nobody to deny it to?

 

[VIBC]

With the UCP victory in Alberta over 80% of Canada's population reject the ideas of Justin Trudeau! Arana Nation
....Canadians have shown their complete hatred of the ideas of Justin by voting in staunchly anti Trudeau Premiers in various Provinces!

.Who are the "Arana Nation" - that's not just a mis-spelling of Aryan eh?

I'd like to see details of the studies on which they base their statement about "over 80%" of Canadians. Seems like just pulled-out-of-the-air exaggerated declaratory rhetoric. And is it ALL of Justin Trudeau's ideas that ALL of this 80% supposedly reject? Some details are called for, if they exist anywhere.

The author seems unaware too, that in Canada, Provincial governments are entirely separate from the Federal government or that people can & do support one party in their province but another in the federal context.