Status of Health Care in Canada

Serryah

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So what's the answer?

How much is health care worth?

Which is better, paying out the higher taxes (cause yes, we can cut out a lot of the problems at the top, but it still won't be enough to hire the staff needed, and keep them) OR the idea of a "private" health care option where you pay for what you want and hope you don't go bankrupt doing so?
 

TheShadow

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Having had to deal with life and death health issues, I can say that it's working.

Is it great?

No, but it's better than pay for use through insurance imo.

I do think that you can two tier certain things out though for pay and improve the system.
 

petros

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37 months ago I tore my rotator cuff. I was repaired 8 weeks ago. While waiting I injured the other shoulder 10 months ago which is getting surgery Feb 6.

In 8 weeks I wont fear drowning.
 

Taxslave2

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So what's the answer?

How much is health care worth?

Which is better, paying out the higher taxes (cause yes, we can cut out a lot of the problems at the top, but it still won't be enough to hire the staff needed, and keep them) OR the idea of a "private" health care option where you pay for what you want and hope you don't go bankrupt doing so?
A hybrid stem is possible. Everything that was available in 1965 when "universal" healthcare was brought in is free and fast. The price starts to go up from there. A public system simply isn't viable when everyone is entitled to every possible modern treatment.
 

harrylee

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I am fairly healthy for my 72 years, high blood pressure and slightly diabetic. I have never broken a bone or required surgery, so am lucky that way. I have never had a problem with our health system as far as long waits etc. I can understand though that some people have.
 

Taxslave2

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My interaction on the receiving end, aside from kid stuff, have all been work related. When I was driving ambulance, and as a firefighter, I did have some poor experiences. Like having to hang in ER with my patient and even assisting in ER because there was no staff available. Helped X-ray and set bones a couple of times. Interesting, but not what I wanted to do. Especially because our community was 40 miles from the hospital, and that left no medical service available while we were gone.
 

Jinentonix

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Read up on Canada's medical schools. They fill up with foreign students first, many of whom go back home when they are done with schooling. The UAE is/was one of the worst for it. This forces most Canadian medical students to study abroad, thus denying them the chance to practice here because they weren't trained and certified here.
That's not the crux of the problem, but it is certainly a part of the problem that's easily solved.
2nd problem. When you have a twit that imports over 6 million people over 8 years without a thought to how it will impact Canada's health care system. This is one of those areas where importing over 1% of your total population every year costs the country more than it benefits. And no, I'm not blaming immigrants (except the illegal ones), I'm blaming Trudeau's criminally irresponsible handling of immigration.

And for decades, Ontario and other provinces operated a public/private system. When you went for blood tests or X-rays or MRIs outside of a hospital setting those were usually done in privately run clinics that took OHIP as payment in exchange for being allowed to operate as a private clinic. Doctors working at private clinics also had to put in a certain number of hours per month working in the public system, ie: working ER depts etc.
In fact a few of the European countries that have what are regarded as the best health care systems in the world use the public/private combo to deliver effective health care.

There's relatively easy ways ways to solve, or at least help alleviate the problem. It just takes some political will. a lot less cronyism and a refusal to listen to whactivist whining.