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"Cliven Bundy's cattle are treated as trespassers, and federal agents have been dispatched to rectify that trespass; at the same time, millions of illegal aliens present within our borders are treated as an inevitability that must be accommodated." - Kevin D. Williamson
Armed federal agents defend turtle habitat but fail to secure our national borders.
The Rule of the Lawless | National Review Online
The new hero of the Teabaggers speaks:
Defiant Rancher Savors the Audience That Rallied to His Side
By ADAM NAGOURNEY APRIL 23, 2014
BUNKERVILLE, Nev. — Cliven Bundy stood by the Virgin River up the road from the armed checkpoint at the driveway of his ranch, signing autographs and posing for pictures. For 55 minutes, Mr. Bundy held forth to a clutch of supporters about his views on the troubled state of America — the overreaching federal government, the harassment of Western ranchers, the societal upheaval caused by abortion, even musing about whether slavery was so bad.
Most of all, Mr. Bundy, 67, who was wearing a broad-brimmed white cowboy hat against the hot afternoon sun, recounted the success of “we the people” — gesturing to the 50 supporters, some armed with handguns and rifles, standing in a semicircle before him — at chasing away Bureau of Land Management rangers who, acting on a court order, tried to confiscate 500 cattle owned by Mr. Bundy, who has been illegally grazing his herd on public land since 1993.
“They don’t have the guts enough to try to start that again for a few years,” Mr. Bundy said in an interview.
Mr. Bundy’s standoff with federal rangers — propelled into the national spotlight in part by steady coverage by Fox News — has highlighted sharp divisions over the power of the federal government and the rights of landowners in places like this desert stretch of Nevada, where resentment of Washington and its sprawling ownership of Western land has long run deep.
His cause has won support from Senator Rand Paul, the libertarian Republican from Kentucky who is likely to run for president. Senator Dean Heller, a Nevada Republican, referred to Mr. Bundy’s supporters as “patriots.” Senator Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat who is the Senate majority leader and has a long history of pushing for protection of public lands, denounced the rancher’s supporters as “domestic terrorists.”
The dispute spilled over this week into Texas, where Greg Abbott, the attorney general and a Republican running for governor, challenged the Bureau of Land Management on reports that it was looking to claim thousands of acres along the Red River.
For now, Mr. Bundy appears to have won, forcing the government to back down after its rangers were met with armed Bundy supporters this month.
“The gather is now over,” said Craig Leff, a deputy assistant director with the Bureau of Land Management. “Our focus is pursuing this matter administratively and judicially.”
But if the federal government has moved on, Mr. Bundy — a father of 14 and a registered Republican — has not.
He said he would continue holding a daily news conference; on Saturday, it drew one reporter and one photographer, so Mr. Bundy used the time to officiate at what was in effect a town meeting with supporters, discussing, in a long, loping discourse, the prevalence of abortion, the abuses of welfare and his views on race.
“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.
“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
A spokesman for Mr. Paul, informed of Mr. Bundy’s remarks, said the senator was not available for immediate comment. Chandler Smith, a spokesman for Mr. Heller, said that the senator “completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy’s appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way.” A spokeswoman for Mr. Abbott, Laura Bean, said that the letter he wrote “was regarding a dispute in Texas and is in no way related to the dispute in Nevada.”
More at link: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/us/politics/rancher-proudly-breaks-the-law-becoming-a-hero-in-the-west.html?hpw&rref=us&_r=0##
Defiant Rancher Savors the Audience That Rallied to His Side
By ADAM NAGOURNEY APRIL 23, 2014
BUNKERVILLE, Nev. — Cliven Bundy stood by the Virgin River up the road from the armed checkpoint at the driveway of his ranch, signing autographs and posing for pictures. For 55 minutes, Mr. Bundy held forth to a clutch of supporters about his views on the troubled state of America — the overreaching federal government, the harassment of Western ranchers, the societal upheaval caused by abortion, even musing about whether slavery was so bad.
Most of all, Mr. Bundy, 67, who was wearing a broad-brimmed white cowboy hat against the hot afternoon sun, recounted the success of “we the people” — gesturing to the 50 supporters, some armed with handguns and rifles, standing in a semicircle before him — at chasing away Bureau of Land Management rangers who, acting on a court order, tried to confiscate 500 cattle owned by Mr. Bundy, who has been illegally grazing his herd on public land since 1993.
“They don’t have the guts enough to try to start that again for a few years,” Mr. Bundy said in an interview.
Mr. Bundy’s standoff with federal rangers — propelled into the national spotlight in part by steady coverage by Fox News — has highlighted sharp divisions over the power of the federal government and the rights of landowners in places like this desert stretch of Nevada, where resentment of Washington and its sprawling ownership of Western land has long run deep.
His cause has won support from Senator Rand Paul, the libertarian Republican from Kentucky who is likely to run for president. Senator Dean Heller, a Nevada Republican, referred to Mr. Bundy’s supporters as “patriots.” Senator Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat who is the Senate majority leader and has a long history of pushing for protection of public lands, denounced the rancher’s supporters as “domestic terrorists.”
The dispute spilled over this week into Texas, where Greg Abbott, the attorney general and a Republican running for governor, challenged the Bureau of Land Management on reports that it was looking to claim thousands of acres along the Red River.
For now, Mr. Bundy appears to have won, forcing the government to back down after its rangers were met with armed Bundy supporters this month.
“The gather is now over,” said Craig Leff, a deputy assistant director with the Bureau of Land Management. “Our focus is pursuing this matter administratively and judicially.”
But if the federal government has moved on, Mr. Bundy — a father of 14 and a registered Republican — has not.
He said he would continue holding a daily news conference; on Saturday, it drew one reporter and one photographer, so Mr. Bundy used the time to officiate at what was in effect a town meeting with supporters, discussing, in a long, loping discourse, the prevalence of abortion, the abuses of welfare and his views on race.
“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.
“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
A spokesman for Mr. Paul, informed of Mr. Bundy’s remarks, said the senator was not available for immediate comment. Chandler Smith, a spokesman for Mr. Heller, said that the senator “completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy’s appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way.” A spokeswoman for Mr. Abbott, Laura Bean, said that the letter he wrote “was regarding a dispute in Texas and is in no way related to the dispute in Nevada.”
More at link: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/us/politics/rancher-proudly-breaks-the-law-becoming-a-hero-in-the-west.html?hpw&rref=us&_r=0##
Bundy's own words, Eagle. That's what these. . . " " mean.Ahhhh... the Hit Piece from the New York Times has arrived!
Are you denying that he said them?
The hit piece has arrived I say again!
I am sure he did say it. He's probably a racist like Farrakhan, Jackson, Sharpton, Biden, etc. That never stopped them... they're revered!
When did Farrakhan, Jackson, Sharpton, Biden, &c. say that blacks were better off under slavery?
Hats off to Bundy. He stills needs to invoice the gov for the fertilizer and time spent maintain the pasture.
No cattle = desert.
No cattle = desert.
Nah, just not playing your game today.Oh so you're going to act retarded?
Be retarded somewhere else.
Thanks!
Yet here you are.
(but your post was amusing... my game huh? Sorry your trolling didn't work out this time.)
Yep, your game. Comparing Jackson's tasteless, stupid, and crude reference to New York as "Hymietown" with Bundy's expressed approval of slavery.Yet here you are.
(but your post was amusing... my game huh? Sorry your trolling didn't work out this time.)
That's called a "false equivalency," and it's a standard tactic of the stupid. You ain't stupid, so why are you using it?
Bundy, Jackson, Farrakhan, and Biden are all ignorant racist by their comments.
And YOU... you singling out Jackson alone as if I singled out Jackson alone. Conveniently leaving the other bigots out.
We can talk about the corporate owned government the corrupt government of the day
the evil Democrats the unreasonable manner in which they decided to handle the whole
thing.
Even after all the crap it comes down to a hundred and fifty square miles give or take that
a rancher once had grazing rights for until he quit paying his grazing right rental fees
over twenty years ago. They gave this guy twenty years to pay the rent and he didn't so
he is being evicted.
If this was someone's house he didn't pay the rent on people would be outraged.
No no sympathy for him at all its time to pay up. There are farmers who pay their way and
they pay again when consumers want cheap food policies and in their midst is a slacker
who won't pay.
The next group we need to introduce to reality is the consumer of food. In every nation in the
world food is more than double what it is in North America and we need to address that issue
the evil Democrats the unreasonable manner in which they decided to handle the whole
thing.
Even after all the crap it comes down to a hundred and fifty square miles give or take that
a rancher once had grazing rights for until he quit paying his grazing right rental fees
over twenty years ago. They gave this guy twenty years to pay the rent and he didn't so
he is being evicted.
If this was someone's house he didn't pay the rent on people would be outraged.
No no sympathy for him at all its time to pay up. There are farmers who pay their way and
they pay again when consumers want cheap food policies and in their midst is a slacker
who won't pay.
The next group we need to introduce to reality is the consumer of food. In every nation in the
world food is more than double what it is in North America and we need to address that issue
Maybe Bundy is a racist, but the US Govt. still sent snipers to his ranch. Bundy can't impact my life, but Uncle Sam can.
He was the only one whose specific remark I could remember. Farrakhan, meh, don't have much use for him. He comes up on this board, I'll be happy to condemn him.
Biden's just funny.
Yes, hats off to Bundy for showing his true colors. Note how the right wing Republican pols who were applauding him the other day suddenly have had a change of heart. Interesting how he condemns those who live off the government dole but failed to admit that he has been getting a freebie at taxpayer expense all this time. Such hypocrisy!
Lawsuit: Cliven Bundy's Wandering Cows Allegedly Caused Car Crash
woman sued Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy for negligence since a cattle he let roam on public land caused her to crash her car, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported.
In April, the Bureau of Land Management let Bundy use federal land for his cattle even though he hasn't paid grazing fees in years after an intense standoff between the rancher's militia and the federal government.
Just two days after the BLM released Bundy's cattle, multiple cows wandered onto an interstate highway, where one collided with a car. The crash killed the cow and seriously injured a Las Vegas woman. Danielle Beck filed a lawsuit on Sunday and said Bundy "recklessly, carelessly and negligently allowed his cows to enter onto Interstate 15 through an area where he had no grazing or other rights."
"It’s a state problem. It’s not our problem," Bundy told the Review-Journal. "We really feel bad when it happens. We sure don’t want it to happen. But we’re not liable."
Lawsuit: Cliven Bundy's Wandering Cows Allegedly Caused Car Crash