Sponsorship snub disconnects B.C. from real world

karrie

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Yep. It took me all of five seconds of reading Zipper's opening 'ha, we screw them on energy prices', to realize that when you price a market unfairly, people find a new market. Other articles I've found talked about BC'er paying as low as $.06 per kWh, while charging Alberta $1 per kWh for exported energy, because they could subsidize theirs off what they charged us for ours. That gets old REALLY fast.

Tecumsehsbones said:
You people do realise that you're seriously debating, and offering factual articles, on FREAKIN' POWER DISTRIBUTION IN THE WESTERN CANADIAN PROVINCES, I trust?
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Have you shopped for energy providers in Alberta recently? I have.

Do you end up affected by the policies and politics of these issues? We do.

So if the discussion (not much debating going on), doesn't interest you, feel free to move along to one that does.
 
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karrie said:
Yep. It took me all of five seconds of reading Zipper's opening 'ha, we screw them on energy prices', to realize that when you price a market unfairly, people find a new market. Other articles I've found talked about BC'er paying as low as $.06 per kWh, while charging Alberta $1 per kWh for exported energy, because they could subsidize theirs off what they charged us for ours. That gets old REALLY fast.



Have you shopped for energy providers in Alberta recently? I have.

Do you end up affected by the policies and politics of these issues? We do.

So if the discussion (not much debating going on), doesn't interest you, feel free to move along to one that does.
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Well, I was supposed to spend this evening licking thirty-year-old Scotch off the naked bodies of five Victoria's Secret models, but this is just too thrilling to tear myself away.
 
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Zipperfish said:
But we _do_ sell to Alberta, don't we? This is based on what I was told 10-15 years ago by a buddy of mine that worked at Powerex (the part of Hydro that buys and sells electricity). So you're telling me that there is no peak rate? Maybe that's changed, I don't know.
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It was. Don't know if it is still happening or not.
 
karrie

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Zipperfish said:
It is still happening. You just can't get a staight answer out of petros is all. I just looked it up. Plus karrie's article was helpful--thanks.
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It is still happening. It won't last forever though. As Alberta increases infrastructure, and BC'ers keep growing in numbers, I would hazard a guess the balance will shift.
 
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It is a fact that herding drunken cats is easier than running lotus land. There is an incredible number of idle rich from elsewhere that don't think BC citizens should have good paying jobs. Especially if said jobs are outside of Hongcouver. Then we have our own homegrown freeloaders that still believe the government should provide for them and are afraid job creation might cut their freebees.

karrie said:
It is still happening. It won't last forever though. As Alberta increases infrastructure, and BC'ers keep growing in numbers, I would hazard a guess the balance will shift.
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Site C will soon be a reality.
 
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karrie said:
Yeah, but if they don't have as large an export market for the power, and the export market that is there, is more competitive, the cost of Site C will be on BC'ers.
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I don't think export looms large in the plan. The LNG plants that are currently under construction and the five or so mines opening in NW BC will consume a large percentage of it.
 
karrie

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petros said:
Gee whiz. That doesn't sound very green.
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Dams aren't. Between all the mercury contaminated fish, the cut off wildlife migratory paths, the destroyed habitat, the destroyed farmland, they're an environmental disaster.
 
petros

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I know that, you know that but try to tell that to the indoor dope sucking greenie weenies. I've never heard a single one bitch about how ungreen indoor weed is and the money lost from the stolen hydro to produce it.
 
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Yup, and the tar sands are just peachy keen as far as the environment is concerned. It doesn't seem to matter what the human endeavour, it is always at the cost of the environment. I keep hoping Momma will do something about it but I fear she is too sick.
 
petros

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There is no such thing as "tar sands". Tar is a man made product. Oil Sands were made by the environment.

PS, I'm writing a song for you. It's called Guitar Sands.
 
karrie

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Cliffy said:
Yup, and the tar sands are just peachy keen as far as the environment is concerned. It doesn't seem to matter what the human endeavour, it is always at the cost of the environment. I keep hoping Momma will do something about it but I fear she is too sick.
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What's that got to do with electricity?
 
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Half of the forests that originally covered 46% of the Earth's land surface are gone. Only one-fifth of the Earth's original forests remain pristine and undisturbed.
Between 10 and 20 percent of all species will be driven to extinction in the next 20 to 50 years. Based on current trends, an estimated 34,000 plant and 5,200 animal species - including one in eight of the world's bird species - face extinction. Almost a quarter of the world's mammal species will face extinction within 30 years. Up to 47% of the world's plant species are at risk of extinction.
60% of the world's coral reefs, which contain up to one-fourth of all marine species, could be lost in the next 20-40 years
Hundreds of thousands of sea turtles and marine mammals are entangled and drowned by irresponsible fishing practices every year.
More than 20 percent of the world's known 10,000 freshwater fish species have become extinct, been threatened, or endangered in recent decades. Sixty percent of the world's important fish stocks are threatened from overfishing.
Desertification and land degradation threaten nearly one-quarter of the land surface of the globe. Over 250 million people are directly affected by desertification, and one billion people are at risk.
Global warming is expected to increase the Earth's temperature by 3C (5.4F) in the next 100 years, resulting in multiple adverse effects on the environment and human society, including widespread species loss, ecosystem damage, flooding of populated human settlements, and increased natural disasters.
An estimated 40-80 million people have been forcibly evicted and displaced from their lands to make way for the construction of large dams, resulting in economic and social devastation for these people.


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