Spanking detrimental to children, study says

SirJosephPorter

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I don't understand the need to pointlessly report threads as trolling, when they are simply a conversation about an issue.

But then again, I don't understand the need for the 'Quite right, old boy, I'm so wonderful that it's nice to see you validating me' posts, either.

I note that the study referred to in the OP mentioned that a pretty high proportion of kids were spanked once a week - I think that if anyone did a study of average families, you'd find that those that 'believed' in spanking did it far, far less frequently, maybe once every month or two at most.

And just how do you know this, TenPenny? They usually try to select a representative sample for the studies. If the sample is not representative, the study is no good. So I assume that the sample selected for this study probably was a representative one.

Indeed, I did remark on it in my original post, that the incidence of spanking seems to be pretty high, giving a lie to those who claim that spanking occurs only infrequently. Now, maybe you spank infrequently I am not disputing that. But if this study is to be believed, spanking occurs fairly frequently.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Any kid who spits on another belongs just hasn't got beaten enough, eh?

Indeed, Kreskin. Beat him up more, use a bigger hammer and it will solve the problem.

Any kid who spits on another kid has not been brought up properly, in my opinion. If the kid is small, say 3 or 4 years old, I would blame the parents.
 

kiwi_NZ

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Always an interesting topic and naturally causes a lot of HooHaa!

I as a parent am totally against hitting/smacking/striking or slapping a child. I have reared two children, now 29 and 32 years of age whom were never smacked, slapped nor hit as children and I reared them solely on my own from their young ages of 4 and 7 ..

There is absolutely no need for it and it is easy to sit and talk with a child when a parent shows control and calm. My daughter was hard work! How would hitting her solve anything? Crazy!

Mostly parents who DO smack their kiddies will agree there is nothing wrong with it as it helps justify their actions.

Parents, do not hit your kids! If when they're old enough to give you a slap because you're not listening to them okay? Of course not. Is it okay to punch the neighbour on the nose because he acts out? NO it isn't...

My son has a 7 year old boy, that wee chap has never been hit either. Break the cycle, don't hit your kids, simple really :)

As you were ... *holds up tommy gun*
 

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But if this study is to be believed, spanking occurs fairly frequently.

No argument here.

I don't believe the study. I don't personally know of anybody that spanks more than once per month let alone once a day. I have a 17 year old and two 12 year olds. I have spanked them maybe three or four times combined. It was for doing things like disregarding me and doing something dangerous like running out in front of a car. Like any disciplinary action, too much and it will lose effectiveness.
 

LikelyGuy

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I was never spanked as a child. My parents taught me 'responsibility'. Which, unfortunately, some parents I see today themselves never learned. The cycle continues.

As SirJP quotes, "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."

Don't yell at your children often, because if you ever have too, they'll be sure to listen.

Better yet,

1) remove them from the situation, set them in a corner.
2) explain to them in a firm, level voice what they did wrong and how disappointed you'd be if they did it again.
3) after they agree, give them a hug.
 

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And just how do you know this, TenPenny? They usually try to select a representative sample for the studies. If the sample is not representative, the study is no good. So I assume that the sample selected for this study probably was a representative one.

Indeed, I did remark on it in my original post, that the incidence of spanking seems to be pretty high, giving a lie to those who claim that spanking occurs only infrequently. Now, maybe you spank infrequently I am not disputing that. But if this study is to be believed, spanking occurs fairly frequently.
Yeah but - I don't think the study is to be believed. It reads more like a few people gathered together and gave their opinion and then wrote it up as a study. I grew up in a small town where no kid I knew lived in a new house and where almost everyone I knew had several brothers and sisters. Sure there were families with only 2 kids. I guess the people doing that study may have called us kids from low income families. No one talked about being spanked and I don't recall seeing bruised up friends around me so I doubt that anyone got spanked often. No - the more I think about it, the more I believe the study is not a true study.
 

SirJosephPorter

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I was never spanked as a child. My parents taught me 'responsibility'. Which, unfortunately, some parents I see today themselves never learned. The cycle continues.

I was, LikelyGuy and often. In those days, corporal punishment was universally accepted, the axiom, spare the rod, spoil the child was taken literally by most people.

But even as a child and as a youth I could see the barbarity, the cruelly of it. When we had our son, I resolved that I would never lay a finger on him. The cycle of violence has to stop somewhere. And neither of us laid a finger on him, I may have disciplined him a total of three or four time (it involved withholding of privileges).

He has turned out to be an excellent human being, he is in forth year of medical school (he finishes next June).
 

karrie

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No argument here.

I don't believe the study. I don't personally know of anybody that spanks more than once per month let alone once a day.

People also are ignoring the fact that spanking a 1 year old as this study examines, is illegal in Canada. So, it's a largely moot point here.
 

SirJosephPorter

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No one talked about being spanked and I don't recall seeing bruised up friends around me so I doubt that anyone got spanked often. No - the more I think about it, the more I believe the study is not a true study

That is the thing, TenPenny, nobody talked of it. In those days, most of the problems of the society were swept under the rug, the underbelly; underside of the society was deeply hidden.

Not only spanking, nobody talked of wife battering, nobody talked of alcoholism, nobody talked of homosexuality and so on. So the fact that nobody talked of spanking only means that it was a taboo subject. It is on par with Iran president Ahmedinajad claming that there are no homosexuals in Iran.
 

Kreskin

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The craziest thing was being in elementary school and threatened with the strap. It's no wonder I turned into a serial killer.
 

karrie

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The craziest thing was being in elementary school and threatened with the strap. It's no wonder I turned into a serial killer.


That raises an interesting question...

Is threatening a child with increasing and potentially permanent exclusion any less harmful?
 

LikelyGuy

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That raises an interesting question...

Is threatening a child with increasing and potentially permanent exclusion any less harmful?

Other than Kreskin's eye raising admittance to being a serial killer...8O

Karrie, I don't get the connect from corporal punishment to child raising.
 
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karrie

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Other than Kreskin's eye raising admittance to being a serial killer...8O

Karrie, I don't get the connect from corporal punishment to child raising.

Kreskin brought up being threatened in elementary school... I brought up what they threaten elementary school children with now... they now suspend and even expel students at the primary/elementary school level for bad behaviour, and I'm just curious how people think that plays out on the psyche of a child.

You know, since any discipline not physical isn't harmful, right?
 

Kreskin

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Kreskin brought up being threatened in elementary school... I brought up what they threaten elementary school children with now... they now suspend and even expel students at the primary/elementary school level for bad behaviour, and I'm just curious how people think that plays out on the psyche of a child.

You know, since any discipline not physical isn't harmful, right?

The strap was pretty evil. I was scared ****less of the Principal. Not a good learning environment in my opinion.