Son's death in Afganistan

[CDNBear]

Logical rational thought and emotion are two different things. If you lose your emotional strength you can still maintain your logical faculties. In reality though they do intertwine but emotion isn't very necessary for a good stratagem.

I prefer logic to emotion. Cold and calculated works. Even in business.

That was my point. Sure there is help but it won't put you back together again.

I agree, I doubt there are many members kicking around any forums I haunt that wouldn't agree I still require years of therapy, lol...

Being emotionally strong is not a pussies attribute in the civilian world it is a very necessary attribute for success.

I don't think you need to have all sorts of emotions to be successful. I think you need to be able to apply the right response to the situation at hand. Ex Troopers make great bosses. So I've been told.;-)

Being a good killing machine isn't much of an asset in the civilian world.

No, but then again, the Canadian Armed Forces does not create 'killing machines'. It creates Professional Soldiers. They are used as Peacekeepers and they are weapons and they can be a myriad of other things as well. All of which make them combat effective.

 

[gerryh]

All the talk, talk, propaganda, propaganda, debate, debate...........................

I have a son of age in Canada, he was considering the military.

As a parent I thought about it, is this a war worth the death of my son ?

Ask your son if he is sure that he can/wants to kill another human being. That he has no moral objections to pulling the trigger to end anothers life. Someone elses son, daughter, Father, Mother........

 

[talloola]

Ask your son if he is sure that he can/wants to kill another human being. That he has no moral objections to pulling the trigger to end anothers life. Someone elses son, daughter, Father, Mother........

that is an excellent question to suggest they ask their son. If an older person was asked
that question I think they would think long and hard, and probably begin to back off at
the thought of killing another person, BUT a younger person, 'in my opinion' would answer more quickly and with such patriotism, "yes I could, it would be for my country,
and it would be him or me, so I could do it", the realism will come to him later in life,
how horrible that act really is, irrespective if it is for your country or not.

 

[Sal]

All the talk, talk, propaganda, propaganda, debate, debate...........................

I have a son of age in Canada, he was considering the military.

As a parent I thought about it, is this a war worth the death of my son ?

In a word, "no" this war over "there" is not worth the death of your son.

 

[BM5]

In a word, "no" this war over "there" is not worth the death of your son.

Well I have thought about it somewhat, like the posts say, it is up to him, he is of age etc., etc. As a father, the babe in the womb, the birth, the childhood, the growing up, the love and hope for ?????????

Death comes to all, but is Afganistan a reasonable sacrifice for me to bear if he chose to go there and ends up a ramp ceromony, I really wonder how many of the now 81 parents and families feel about it now ?

 

[IntelGirl]

For all those who say Canadian Troops should be pulled out because it's the Afgan's lives and they choose to live it the way they want...you are all idiots.

War isn't just between two countries...it's between those two countries and their allies. Just like being in the army, it's a brotherhood of nations. We have to support our allies in war, or we will not get supported.

Let your son choose his own path as have I. I am a single mother, and will be serving my country in the Canadian Forces soon. Soldiers know what they are possibly giving up...here's a quote for you.

"Bravery isn't the absence of fear, it's coming to the realization that there's something more important than what you're afraid of."

Realize your son has found something so beyond giving to others, and chooses to follow that path.

 

[gerryh]

For all those who say Canadian Troops should be pulled out because it's the Afgan's lives and they choose to live it the way they want...you are all idiots.

War isn't just between two countries...it's between those two countries and their allies. Just like being in the army, it's a brotherhood of nations. We have to support our allies in war, or we will not get supported.

Let your son choose his own path as have I. I am a single mother, and will be serving my country in the Canadian Forces soon. Soldiers know what they are possibly giving up...here's a quote for you.

"Bravery isn't the absence of fear, it's coming to the realization that there's something more important than what you're afraid of."

Realize your son has found something so beyond giving to others, and chooses to follow that path.

Canada has done more than her share in Afghanistan. We have lost enough of our children. Someone else can take up the slack now.

 

[petros]

It's a job. Like any job there are risks, hard work and the rewards of risk and hard work. It is also a rush of the most addictive drug known to man. Adrenaline. For some getting their fix is the reward. And then there are those who are truly warped and want to kill.

Each has their own reasons for joining and so be it.

 

[einmensch]

Intel Girl--Please tell me why US, Canada %etc. are in Afghanistan? Do you know?

 

[darkbeaver]

We are not at war we are fixing the economy, you want your children to work don't you? Thank god the bankers have provided us with exacting exciting meaningful employment in far away lands where the stench of dead bodies and the fog of war do not disturb the play of our dear little baby combatants who serve in schools and playgrounds preparing for the day when they take up the torch from the brain damaged returning heros whose sleep will be forever interupted by the futility and horror of their disgusting criminal adventures in lands where they have no humane right to be. How can they save our hearths and homes while they destroy the familys and homes of the others? It is well the young are so stupid or we could never save the money sucking economy.

 

[darkbeaver]

The wheels come off “the good war” in Afghanistan

by Robin Beste, Stop the War Coalition, 6 July 2009
We have had weeks of government and army propaganda selling the “good war” in Afghanistan as being for the benefit of the Afghan people and as necessary to Britain's interests. There has been:

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  Endless stories in the tabloid media about "our boys" heroism bringing "stability and security" to Afghanistan;
• Armed Services Day on 27 June, with army parades and other events up and down the country glorifying mass murder as a career;
• The sponsoring by the Ministry of Defence (MoD) of toys depicting British soldiers as "action heroes";
• The rigid control of journalists reporting the war to ensure only the MoD's version of events gets media coverage.

The wheels come off “the good war” in Afghanistan

 

[petros]

It's too bad the US did everything possible to stop Iran from helping out in both Iraq and Afghanistan instead of stabbing them in the back after they helped the Northern Alliance take Kabul.

 

[Cliffy]

Ah, yes, the glorious dead. Fighting for your country does not equate to killing others in far away lands. There is nothing in Afghanistan that is of benefit to Canada and much that is detrimental to the Afghani people. A few schools do not replace the complete destruction of the country's infrastructure.

The Yanks and Brits blew the country back into the dark ages, and then we have the audacity to pat ourselves on the backs for building a few schools. Something in the air is foul.

 

[petros]

There is nothing in Afghanistan that is of benefit to Canada...

Really? That is not how kumtor and cameco feel.

 

[darkbeaver]

Look we've only got so many developement tax dollars for death and destruction why can't we attack someplace closer, we're there's a bigger market and a common language. War dosen't have to be needlessly expensive because of transportation costs. We are entering an economic downturn and we have to trim expenses now there's an oportunity to cease California for pennies on the dollar we ain't going to get near the returns in Afghanistan. What kind of conquering army brings home dust and unpaid munitions bills. It's no way to run a business.

 

[petros]

Look we've only got so many developement tax dollars for death and destruction why can't we attack someplace closer, we're there's a bigger market and a common language. War dosen't have to be needlessly expensive because of transportation costs. We are entering an economic downturn and we have to trim expenses now there's an oportunity to cease California for pennies on the dollar we ain't going to get near the returns in Afghanistan. What kind of conquering army brings home dust and unpaid munitions bills. It's no way to run a business.

Lets take Reykjavik steal their cod to feed the newfs now living on the prairies building refineries and fertilizer plants.. That is benefical.

 

[darkbeaver]

Home > Breaking News > SE Asia > Story
June 29, 2009
Leftover firearms killed 42,000

Mr Hieu said the government, helped with funds from international organisations and countries including the United States, has cleared more than 3 per cent of the contaminated area. -- PHOTO: REUTERS
HANOI - UNEXPLODED ordnance left over from the Vietnam War has killed more than 42,000 people in the country since the conflict ended more than three decades ago, and deadly accidents continue daily, a senior military official said on Monday.
US forces used 15 million tonnes of bombs and ammunition during the war and an estimated 800,000 tonnes of unexploded ordnance still contaminates 20 per cent of the country's area, Vice Defence Minister Senior Lieutenant General Nguyen Huy Hieu wrote in the state-run People's Army newspaper.


db He said it may take more than 100 years to clear the contaminated area. This is the kind of long term investment Canada needs, if we hadn't built these mines those people would be out of work. A hundred years of demineing because someone invested in the future.db

 

[darkbeaver]

Lets take Reykjavik steal their cod to feed the newfs now living on the prairies building refineries and fertilizer plants.. That is benefical.

Iceland is broke we haven't completed the modernization of our coldwar submarine fleet and we have no assault ships. We need someplace we can just drive to every morning and pound the hell out of untill they capitulate. Newfoundland on the other hand is an oil rich state very close to separating from the mainland which has stripped its seas and trees for decades since the capitulation of Smallwoods day. They have oil loot aplenty and CN Ferries runs all year round and their menfolk are away teaching Albertans how to drink and wench. When will Harper do the right thing and recall our tanks? I suppose we will have to fabricate a politically correct need for Operation Cod.

 

[einmensch]

Harper is doing the right thing, so is Merkel, Obama and numerous other democratically elected leaders. They are obeying the demands of those that manipulated their election. The first thing that they all do is pay unquestioning homage to all the Jews that died in German camps and they all support the Rothschild bankers. What else is important or considered right??