Some Albertans Want To Pay Provincial Sales Tax

gerryh

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I was wondering how this thread about Calgary business men could take a hard turn to a PET bashing thread. I see the "usual suspects" are responsible. Must be a bitch being ADD and unable to stay focused on anything for any length of time.


Only someone with the name Liberal in his nick or who has an obsession with Pierre Elliot Trudeau. :)
 

VanIsle

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Only someone from Ontario could possibly think adding a new tax is a good thing. in reality what should be happening is that oil producing provinces should be getting a large cut of all profits made by speculators in oil and gas futures. Then there would be lots of money around for social programs without any negative effect on the economy.
Other oil producing countries sell gas at less than 35 cents a GALLON. Can you ever imagine that happening in Canada?

I was wondering how this thread about Calgary business men could take a hard turn to a PET bashing thread. I see the "usual suspects" are responsible. Must be a bitch being ADD and unable to stay focused on anything for any length of time.
When people have nothing of interest to add (even for themselves), they start to bash others rather than just sign off for a few hours and find something else to do. There is actually room for some interesting conversation on this issue. My husband is from Alberta so he has relatives in your city. All they ever do is brag about the fact that they do not have PST and yet when they come to visit us, they constantly point out the number of things that cost less here. Hidden tax is what Alberta has on many things. We all have that. People in BC should not be paying a tax on children's clothing (for example) but all stores collect the tax because they don't know how to take it off the bill. By some of the above posts, it would appear Alberta is making it's first attempt at collecting a combined tax and we all know how well that went here.
 

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I was wondering how this thread about Calgary business men could take a hard turn to a PET bashing thread. I see the "usual suspects" are responsible. Must be a bitch being ADD and unable to stay focused on anything for any length of time.

It's easy really.





 

Nuggler

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"""""""""Things are changing now Alberta prides itself in the fact that there are no rats."""""""""

Ever since Klein left.


What about the majority of Albertans who can't read and don't play sports. They have to pay the damn thing too??
 

Nuggler

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This penny tax has everything to do with Calgary's mayor attempting to maintain his campaign promises. Buddy ran his campaign based on ridiculous promises and never considered that the money would have to be found to achieve the goal.

Now, as expected, he needs to raise taxes or confirm (again) that he is a liar.

Welcome to Ontario.
 

VanIsle

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Not a big surprise that it's a group of businessmen wanting added taxes. I'm sure the regular folks wouldn't want this at all.
You and I both know what it is like to have HST. We voted it out and yet we will still continue to pay it for about another 18 months (or more). The Prov. Lib. leader had to resign because he brought it in. His replacement promised to get rid of it and then tried to back out of her committment. I'm sure that in the next prov. election, we'll back her out - period. Provincially or Federally, the Liberals just don't seem to pass "go" because they continue to collect more and more taxes. The city I live in now has the highest un-employment rate in BC at 14.5%. Hurrah for taxes!!! They were supposed to create more employment and the employment rate here took a steady drop from the introduction of the HST. People are so quick to jump on the band wagon. At the mere mention of an added tax, restaurants immediately upped their prices. Then with the HST added in and the gov't (did one thing right) finally agreed that the minimum wage must be raised slowly up to $10.00 p/h, and they took away the "training wage" of $6.00 p/h which places like restaurants readily took advantage of, restaurants in this city are either empty or near to it.
The point here being that increasing minimum wage and increasing taxes all at once may have seemed like a great idea but it fell flat. Some would say it was the increase in the min. wage that caused it. In most cases - greed caused it. The training wage here was for a 3 month period so at the end of the 3 months, they would find a weak excuse to dump an employee and hire another for another 3 months. Greed and taxes by government and corporations break us all.

It's easy really.





No - it's really annoying. This thread is not about Trudeau. It's about taxes (especially in Alberta). I hope someone removes your Trudeau pics. because this is not about him.
 

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I was wondering how this thread about Calgary business men could take a hard turn to a PET bashing thread. I see the "usual suspects" are responsible. Must be a bitch being ADD and unable to stay focused on anything for any length of time.

Very simple, Gerry and not such a hard turn, it went from taxes to politics to Liberals to Trudeau- not exactly rocket science although maybe a stretch for someone of your mentality. :lol:

You and I both know what it is like to have HST. We voted it out and yet we will still continue to pay it for about another 18 months (or more). .

Huge mistake, V.I.- you don't change horses in mid stream! :smile:
 

gerryh

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and I see you still don't have the mental acuity to contribute anything.
 

CDNBear

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No - it's really annoying.
Just like when you hijack threads to tell us we shouldn't be discussing a particular topic, because you're a prude.

I hope someone removes your Trudeau pics. because this is not about him.
It's stupid censorship comments like that, that make people, make you cry.

and I see you still don't have the mental acuity to contribute anything.
What would be the point Abtfet? You aren't capable of intelligent discussion these days.
 

taxslave

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It was a happy day for me and Canada

Thats because you live in Toronto. And Ontatio/Quebec is NOT Canada. Not a happy time for the west or anyone that only speaks English. Turdo's NEP was what caused so many to hate him. Actually there was nothing national about the NEP it was steal from the west and give to Ontario and Quebec as Lioberals have done since before confederation. That is why pipelines run South, not East.
 

Ron in Regina

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I just can't see anywhere in Alberta, or Alberta as a whole, seriously looking
at this type of a tax whether it's really needed or not. Too much pride is at
stake with the idea of there not being any sales taxes (beyond the burried
luxury taxes) in that province.

Looking at something like this:



....and seeing Alberta being completely absent from the above graph, is also a
sense of pride for Albertians...and messing with a sales tax would be political
suicide for any politician pushing the idea.
 
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VanIsle

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Very simple, Gerry and not such a hard turn, it went from taxes to politics to Liberals to Trudeau- not exactly rocket science although maybe a stretch for someone of your mentality. :lol:



Huge mistake, V.I.- you don't change horses in mid stream! :smile:
I disagree JLM. They have to keep taxing us for a period of time to pay back the Feds. They will find other ways to tax us for now. One of those is that we are now going to pay a tax to rid ourselves of small appliances (toasters, microwaves, irons etc.) like the many other foolish little taxes we pay on almost anything that will hit the trash in 5 - 10 yrs. time. The more they tax us and the more petty taxes they add into that equation, the deeper they dig their own grave. I don't like Christy Clark and worse than that, I don't trust her.
 

JLM

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I disagree JLM. They have to keep taxing us for a period of time to pay back the Feds. They will find other ways to tax us for now. One of those is that we are now going to pay a tax to rid ourselves of small appliances (toasters, microwaves, irons etc.) like the many other foolish little taxes we pay on almost anything that will hit the trash in 5 - 10 yrs. time. The more they tax us and the more petty taxes they add into that equation, the deeper they dig their own grave. I don't like Christy Clark and worse than that, I don't trust her.[/QUOTE]

That I can agree with, but it is Christy Clark we possibly should be getting rid of, not a tax that would be going down to 10%. If we were to get rid of Christy who would we replace her with that would eliminate the tax? :smile:
 

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Was that after or before the "Let the east freeze in the dark"

Was the finger for the protesters?

As a former prairie boy, I can say that it was taken personally by every person who lives west of Winnipeg. My dad still gets worked up if you bring up old Fuddle Duddle.
 

wulfie68

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I don't see why people are getting all bent about the way this thread is going: it follows a fairly straightforward path.

1) Moronic group of Calgary "businessmen" propose taxation idea for the province that would be extremely unpopular
2) Idea of PST linked to other politically explosive ideas in Alberta history
3) Said bad ideas linked to their authors (the Liberal Party of Canada) and its most infamous perpetrator (PET)

Seriously, I think the idiots who came up with this idea ought to be worrying about ways to enrich their city's coffers on their own, not penalize the entire province.