Soldier is hacked to death by Muslim men just yards from barracks in London

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Stuffed animals, flowers, weeping estranged wives, an outpouring of something distinctly western in these arranged times.

Fancy that, Western-style outpouring within the borders of a Western-style nation... Whodda thunk it?

Whether anybody recognized the taliban as the government or not is irrelevant.

It is completely relevant when you ask the question regarding 'who' invited the Western powers to intervene.

They were running the country. Who was the quasi government that invited the invasion?

There are some gangs and elements of organized crime that run parts of some major cities... Does that make them recognized gvt?
 

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Like I said, quasi government with an appointed western puppet.

The people over there are so stupid they need all the help they can get.
In the end they are still better off with what the west does for them,, without the west, they would be ,,,,??
 

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The people over there are so stupid they need all the help they can get.
In the end they are still better off with what the west does for them,, without the west, they would be ,,,,??
Afghani, not some western puppets. Your mentality reminds me of the residential schools: beat the indian out of the Indians... or in this case, beat the Afghani out of Afghanistan. Western civilization is a cancer on this planet. Are you a cancer cell?
 

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The people over there are so stupid they need all the help they can get.
In the end they are still better off with what the west does for them,, without the west, they would be ,,,,??
yeah? tell that to the dead8O

Did you sign the petition to bring personal gun ownership to the UK?

Would Londoners have waited 20 minutes for the cops and stood around taking thousands of traumatising photos and video (used to screw with you head by the powers that be) if they had guns?
I'm confused ... are you saying there should have been a street shoot out? what is this the wild west...Rambo? :D
 

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Fair to say that a man walking down the street covered in blood, holding a cleaver and chanting Allu-Akbar qualifies as a religious-motivated killing... All this in broad daylight and the middle of a street
Could possibly be someone trying to stir up shyte between Muslims and the rest. I don't think it is in this particular event, but just because I say things that indicate I am atheist or a voodoo practitioner doesn't mean I am (I am the first and not the second, BTW). Indeed, people I consider to be real Christians suggest that those nutbars that bomb abortion clinics aren't real Christians. The bombers just say they are.
 

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Could possibly be someone trying to stir up shyte between Muslims and the rest. I don't think it is in this particular event, but just because I say things that indicate I am atheist or a voodoo practitioner doesn't mean I am (I am the first and not the second, BTW).

Anything is possible, although I think it would be one hell of a stretch


Indeed, people I consider to be real Christians suggest that those nutbars that bomb abortion clinics aren't real Christians. The bombers just say they are.

A lunatic is a lunatic regardless of stripe, but I will say this in terms of the anti-abortion lunatics: they don't randomly target an individual on the street to butcher like a side of beef
 

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Anything is possible, although I think it would be one hell of a stretch
Like I said, I think the young fellows are "Muslim" nutcases, but possibilities exist regardless.

A lunatic is a lunatic regardless of stripe, but I will say this in terms of the anti-abortion lunatics: they don't randomly target an individual on the street to butcher like a side of beef
The target may not be the average bystander or even a pregnant patient in the clinic looking into abortions, but bombs being bombs .....
 

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Multiculturalism doesn’t work

You can’t have two competing cultures in the same country



By Ezra Levant ,QMI Agency First posted: Saturday, May 25, 2013 08:00 PM EDT
Drummer Lee Rigby, of the British Army's 2nd Battalion The Royal Regiment of Fusiliers, is seen in an undated photo released May 23, 2013. Rigby was killed May 22 in an attack by two men in Woolwich, southeast London, the Ministry of Defence said on Thursday. REUTERS/Ministry of Defence/Crown Copyright/Handout


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Last Wednesday, a British soldier named Lee Rigby was walking down the street in London, wearing a Help for Heroes T-shirt. That’s a charity for wounded soldiers.
Two Muslim men driving by rammed him with their car.
Then they jumped out, shouted “Allah Akhbar,” and hacked him to death with a meat cleaver and a knife. They tried to cut his head off.
In broad daylight, on a busy street.
Bystanders took out their cellphone cameras to record it.
The murderers didn’t run or hide. One wanted to go on the record, in perfect English, with his explanation. He didn’t even bother to put down his cleaver or wipe the blood off his hands.
Here’s what he said:
“The only reason we have killed this man today is because Muslims are dying daily by British soldiers. And this British soldier is one. It is an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. By Allah, we swear by the almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you until you leave us alone.
“So what if we want to live by the Shariah in Muslim lands? Why does that mean you must follow us and chase us and call us extremists and kill us? Rather you lot are extreme. You are the ones that when you drop a bomb you think it hits one person? Or rather your bomb wipes out a whole family? This is the reality.
“By Allah if I saw your mother today with a buggy I would help her up the stairs. This is my nature. But we are forced by the Koran, in Sura At-Tawba, through many ayah in the Qur’an, we must fight them as they fight us. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
“I apologize that women had to witness this today but in our lands women have to see the same. You people will never be safe. Remove your governments, they don’t care about you. You think David Cameron is going to get caught in the street when we start busting our guns? You think politicians are going to die? No, it’s going to be the average guy, like you and your children. So get rid of them.
“Tell them to bring our troops back so all can live in peace. So leave our lands and we can all live in peace. That’s all I have to say. (In Arabic:) Allah’s peace and blessings be upon you.”
That’s, Michael Adebolajo, a British-born citizen of Nigerian descent. He used to be Christian, but converted to Islam.
He says that’s why he killed. He used words like Allah, Muslim, Islam, Qur’an and Shariah nine times in two minutes. He’s not making other excuses for his actions. He was on an Islamic mission.
He says it’s a war between British soldiers and Muslim soldiers — and he considers himself to be the latter.
Which is notable, given that he was born in Britain.
He’s no soldier.
He’s a terrorist.
He fails the Geneva Convention definition of a soldier. Soldiers don’t hack people to death in a London street.
But the laws of war are a construction of western civilization. This man follows the laws of Allah.
He cited a chapter of the Qur’an, called at-Tawba. It says, “slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush.”
In case you’re wondering who the “idolators” are, it’s you. It continues: “Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace.”
Multiculturalism doesn’t work. You cannot have two competing cultures in the same country.
Questions like: What law do you follow? How do you solve conflicts? Are there any limits on religion in the public square?
Those are western ideas, like the separation of church and state.
There is no separation between mosque and state in the Qur’an; there is no separation between civilian and military in the Qur’an.
This is war.
Take it from the man with the meat cleaver, standing in the street.
 

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You're a barbarian. and the u.k doesn't have the death penalty. They certainly won't reinstate it because of an online petition, lol.


Right.

Two guys run down a perfectly innocent stranger, jump out of their car, and stab him to death with knives and cleaver, attempting to behead him, then stand around bragging of their deed to passer-by.

But it is Blackleaf that is the barbarian.

Right.

You really are ****ed in the head.