Smile! You’ve Got Socialized Healthcare!

EagleSmack

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Makes you wonder how the USA got along before ACA... I would have expected everyone to have died long before that

Since the ACA.... tens of thousands have died because of it. The death toll will only climb.

Why not eh? What was good for the goose must certainly be good for the gander.

The Congressional Budget Office can no longer assess cost of Obamacare:

'Obamacare' Cost Can't Be Determined, Says Congressional Budget Office

Not so surprising.
 

EagleSmack

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People will still die goph, it's a sad fact of life.

That study was filled with holes but the libs stuck to it. They know their base is too dumb and brainwashed to think for themselves.

Many did die as acknowledged by the medical profession and by social scientists who researched the issue. This notwithstanding the unsupported claims made by right wingers.

One interview... never followed up with to see if they ever got health insurance after the interview... they just waited for them to die and said they died because they did not have health insurance.

And the Libtards bought it.

So stupid.
 

gopher

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Reichtards still have never presented a shred of evidence to prove their claims. How can they possibly know medical practice, procedure, or the consequences of the government's impact than medical professionals?

I have presented link after link which proves ACA is working. Link after link which shows costs for insurance have gone downward and that many more are covered. Delusionals of the far right continue to criticize but they offer NOTHING in the way of evidence to debunk anything I have shown here.


The American Medical Association says it is the "champion of coverage" and has endorsed ACA:



https://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/advocacy/topics/affordable-care-act.page



Yet somehow these 'geniuses' from the far right "know" the subject better than they do.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Says who?

Oh if it was only that easy for you Gopher.

American Medical Association: ObamaCare Poses "Risk" for Doctors

Why the AMA Endorses Obamacare—But Your Doctor Does Not | TheBlaze.com

"Today’s AMA is a different animal. This year, only 15 percent of practicing physicians are members, down from 75 percent in the 1950s."

Such utter failure Goph
Um. . . if it's low representation makes it illegitimate, why should we care what it says about risks for doctors?

Can't have it both ways.

Don't matter nohow. Obamacare'd be a bad idea if every doctor in the country supported it.
 

gopher

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Says who?




Numbers declined under Bush and before, not because of ACA:









Published membership figures as reported by the AMA include:






Year Membership Reference

2002 278,000 [31]

2007 238,977 [32]

2009 228,150


2010 215,854 [33][34]

2011 217,490 [35]




With 19,000 in PNHP.

Good numbers. For the record, my doctor endorses ACA.

Oh, by the way - still waiting for the Republican party to come up with its own plan ...
 

EagleSmack

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Not the end of story now is it? ;)

"Today’s AMA is a different animal. This year, only 15 percent of practicing physicians are members, down from 75 percent in the 1950s."
 

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Blocking Medicaid expansion will cost Florida 63,000 jobs



WASHINGTON — The White House has a Medicaid expansion argument for Gov. Rick Scott and Florida Republicans: It creates jobs.

A state-by-state report released Wednesday estimates that Florida would generate about 63,000 jobs, mainly in health care, from 2014-2017. That's the three years that the federal government would have paid the entire cost of providing health care to 848,000 people.

In Tallahassee, new legislative leaders come on board at the end of the year but little may change. Incoming Senate President Andy Gardiner said he still supports a Medicaid expansion alternative his chamber developed but there is little room to negotiate with counterparts in the House.

"Unfortunately, the federal government in their mandate is all or nothing," said Gardiner, R-Orlando. "I think that's one of the things that adds to the challenge."

White House: Blocking Medicaid expansion would cost Florida 63,000 jobs<br /><br /> | Tampa Bay Times
 

EagleSmack

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... and many more will go back to work because they now get medical treatment they did not have before.

By the way that CBO report was corrected the next day by Factcheck:



‘Lost Jobs’ from Obamacare

Yes the Lost Jobs over the will choose not to work. That is why I said choose not to work over lost. How is incentive to choose not work to the tune of 2 million good?

And I am wondering why the CBO said choose instead of lost. Will that be the party line when 2 million start leaving the work force for one reason or other?