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HHS' Latest Tweak To Obamacare Requires That Employers Certify That They Are Not Making Economic Decisions Because Of Obama's Craptastic Healthcare Law

Thought police.
Treasury officials said Monday that businesses will be told to "certify" that they are not shedding full-time workers simply to avoid the mandate. Officials said employers will be told to sign a "self-attestation" on their tax forms affirming this, under penalty of perjury.​
Although Treasury and HHS insist that employers are not reducing full-time workers because of Obamacare's obvious and perverse incentives, the beleaguered agencies have decided to require employers to certify that they aren't taking perfectly sensible decisions to preserve and protect their businesses.

This is mindless, arbitrary, and unlawful and I would love for someone at Treasury to point me to the statute that allows them to demand these certifications. I suspect that such a statute does not exist (if nothing else, we would have heard about it before now), and that it would violate the U.S. Constitution for IRS to punish a company for declining to make such a certification.



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HHS' Latest Tweak To Obamacare Requires That Employers Certify That They Are Not Making Economic Decisions Because Of Obama's Craptastic Healthcare Law
 

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Uninsurance Rate Falls To Five-Year Low As 3.3 Million Enroll In Obamacare





Uninsurance Rate Falls To Five-Year Low As 3.3 Million Enroll In Obamacare | ThinkProgress




The Obama administration on Wednesday released its monthly update on health insurance enrollment under the Affordable Care Act. Nearly 3.3 million Americans enrolled in private health plans through Obamacare’s state and federal marketplaces from October through February 1, with 1.1 million signing up in January alone. The data comes on the same day that a Gallup survey found that the U.S. uninsurance rate has hit a five-year low






“We’re seeing a healthy growth in enrollment,”





... young Americans’ enrollment in Obamacare will continue to spike ...




... more ...






Bad news for the cynics - good news for the rest of us.
 

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Obama announces loss of at least 4 million insurance plans | The Daily Caller

Another 25 million ObamaCare victims | New York Post

Uninsurance Rate Falls To Five-Year Low As 3.3 Million Enroll In Obamacare





Uninsurance Rate Falls To Five-Year Low As 3.3 Million Enroll In Obamacare | ThinkProgress




The Obama administration on Wednesday released its monthly update on health insurance enrollment under the Affordable Care Act. Nearly 3.3 million Americans enrolled in private health plans through Obamacare’s state and federal marketplaces from October through February 1, with 1.1 million signing up in January alone. The data comes on the same day that a Gallup survey found that the U.S. uninsurance rate has hit a five-year low

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Brought to you by the people who said... "If you like your plan you can keep your plan"

Lies on top of lies.
 

EagleSmack

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think pogress

:lol:

And as one Doctor said on TV... who is a supporter of single payer.

"There is a big difference between having a shiny blue card than having access to health care."

As many people are finding out.
 

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The more things change the more they stay the same.

Come on Sherman, lets take a ride in the way back machine to 1962....

The Fight for Medicare
Saskatchewan faces a bitter doctors' strike over Canada's first universal health care plan

"We feel we cannot practice under state-controlled medicine. it seems to me the government has given us no choice but to leave.
" - Saskatchewan doctor

Socialist politician Tommy Douglas was the force behind Canada's first universal health insurance plan, enacted in Saskatchewan in 1962. Pictured here, Douglas NDP convention in July 1961. (National Archives of Canada, C-036222)


In the early 1960s, Saskatchewan doctors reacted with anger and frustration, culminating in a bitter strike when the province tried to bring in Canada's first universal health insurance plan.

In Saskatchewan, Premier Tommy Douglas and his socialist party, the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (CCF), had been in power since 1944 and had been the first government in the country to provide hospital insurance for its citizens.

Now in 1960, with a provincial election looming, Douglas was ready to take the next step and introduce universal, publicly funded medical care - known as medicare - not just in hospitals, but also in clinics and doctors offices.

"Surely the time has come in Saskatchewan ... for us to take this next great forward step and set up in the province of Saskatchewan a pre-paid medical care program."

The attempt to bring medicare to Saskatchewan was the latest in a series of measures adopted across Canada and throughout the western world in the years after the Second World War. The measures were based on the premise that governments owed their citizens a reasonable standard of living and access to basic services.

But Saskatchewan doctors complained that they would be turned into civil servants, unable to follow their own judgment about what was best for their patients. They argued that medicare was another step down a slippery socialistic slope

"This is like asking the doctors if they would like to try a hanging and if they didn't like it, it could be undone!," said a Saskatchewan doctor.

The Saskatchewan Liberals, led by Ross Thatcher, backed the doctors and attacked Douglas.

"The socialists say, elect us, even with a 35 per cent majority, and we will ram a scheme down your throat."

Douglas was bitterly opposed by the provinces physicians and private health-care insurers. Despite the $115,000 spent during the election on an anti--medicare campaign, Douglas and the CCF won a commanding majority and a clear mandate to proceed.

Douglas would soon leave for Ottawa in 1961 to lead the newly formed New Democratic Party, but his provincial successor Woodrow Lloyd would continue the medicare fight.

After a long debate, the law was adopted in November 1961, to take effect the following July 1. The day medicare was born, about 90 per cent of the provinces doctors went on strike.

Initially the doctors had some public support. These KOD (Keep Our Doctors) Committees, with support from the media, launched a well-organized campaign against the government and the medicare plan. Rallies, petitions, panels and advertisements raised the emotional climate to a white heat.

The people of Saskatchewan began to worry. Some wondered what good was a medical care program without doctors.

"Im very glad that the plan has gone in," said one resident. "but Im deeply concerned over the fact that my doctor left me and two children without any proper medical care."

Families with health problems were even more alarmed by the strike.

"I have a family of 5 little girls, one girl is suffering from cerebral palsy," said one father. "Where will I take my daughter? To Montreal? Will the government pay me transportation? Where will I go, tell me!"

The government brought doctors from Britain and encouraged others to come from the US and other parts of Canada to meet the emergency. Local citizens groups organized medical clinics and hired doctors to attend them.

By mid-July much of the KOD support had dissipated. Some doctors were returning to work; the force of the strike was spent. At the beginning of August, the government made some amendments to the Act; one amendment allowed doctors to practice outside the plan.

After 23 days on strike, the Saskatchewan doctors returned to work. But hostilities remained long afterwards; patients resented their doctors' desertion and doctors continued to object to government involvement in medical care. Nevertheless, a 1965 survey found that most doctors favoured continuing the plan.

The Saskatchewan government had opened the door to universal health care. Within ten years of the Saskatchewan strike, the entire country was covered by medicare.

 

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Man with a new, healthy heart says Obamacare saved his life





Man with a new, healthy heart says Obamacare saved his life | fox4kc.com




An Olathe man says the health care law saved his life. Once Mike O’Dell was able to get health insurance on January 1, he was able to go on the transplant waiting list, and he now has a new heart.
On Thursday, O’Dell hugged his three children as he saw them for the first time since receiving the new heart last week at Saint Luke’s Hospital.
Back in December, O’Dell, age 41, didn’t think it could happen.
“I thought I’d deteriorate and eventually I’d pass away. It’s just been — it’s been tough,” said O’Dell.
He couldn’t afford a transplant. He qualified for Kansas Medicaid coverage for those with high medical expenses, but he couldn’t meet the spenddown requirements to have continuous coverage.
“While we could have done the transplant even without charging him, the medication he would never be able to afford,” said Dr. Andrew Kao, his heart specialist.
Anti-rejection medicine costs $4,000 a month and must be taken daily to keep the new heart.
“I didn’t want them giving me somebody else’s gift and I couldn’t afford to have it,” said O’Dell.
He couldn’t get private health insurance because of his pre-existing heart condition. But as of January 1, with the health care law, insurers can no longer deny coverage. O’Dell and his wife were able to get coverage through the health insurance marketplace for $190 a month. That allowed him to go on the transplant waiting list.
“He wouldn’t be here with me or my children if it weren’t for the Obamacare,” said O’Dell’s wife, Kate.
And his doctors say he clearly wouldn’t have lived long if he hadn’t received the gift of a stranger’s heart last week.
“Kinda like winning the lottery,” said O’Dell.
He could go home from the hospital early next week.
An infection struck O’Dell’s heart three years ago. He said before that, he was perfectly healthy and didn’t think he needed health insurance. He says now, he knows differently.








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ACA = Saving money and lives.




Thank you President Obama!
 

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Man with a new, healthy heart says Obamacare saved his life




Man with a new, healthy heart says Obamacare saved his life | fox4kc.com




An Olathe man says the health care law saved his life. Once Mike O’Dell was able to get health insurance on January 1, he was able to go on the transplant waiting list, and he now has a new heart.

Back in December, O’Dell, age 41, didn’t think it could happen.

“While we could have done the transplant even without charging him, the medication he would never be able to afford,” said Dr. Andrew Kao, his heart specialist.

Anti-rejection medicine costs $4,000 a month and must be taken daily to keep the new heart.

“I didn’t want them giving me somebody else’s gift and I couldn’t afford to have it,” said O’Dell.

He couldn’t get private health insurance because of his pre-existing heart condition. But as of January 1, with the health care law, insurers can no longer deny coverage. O’Dell and his wife were able to get coverage through the health insurance marketplace for $190 a month. That allowed him to go on the transplant waiting list.

“He wouldn’t be here with me or my children if it weren’t for the Obamacare,” said O’Dell’s wife, Kate.

And his doctors say he clearly wouldn’t have lived long if he hadn’t received the gift of a stranger’s heart last week.


An infection struck O’Dell’s heart three years ago. He said before that, he was perfectly healthy and didn’t think he needed health insurance. He says now, he knows differently.





I wonder what motivates someone to give you a thumbs down on this story. I wonder what they don't like about it. Maybe that the guy at 41 would have died and left his kids way to early would have made the thumb downer happy.


And anyone who thinks that just because they are young and healthy that this couldn't happen to them should learn that anything is possible........


An infection struck O’Dell’s heart three years ago. He said before that, he was perfectly healthy and didn’t think he needed health insurance. He says now, he knows differently.
 

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I wonder what motivates someone to give you a thumbs down on this story. I wonder what they don't like about it. Maybe that the guy at 41 would have died and left his kids way to early would have made the thumb downer happy.


And anyone who thinks that just because they are young and healthy that this couldn't happen to them should learn that anything is possible........


An infection struck O’Dell’s heart three years ago. He said before that, he was perfectly healthy and didn’t think he needed health insurance. He says now, he knows differently.
Always be scared.
 

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Always be scared.



Scared of what?


Anyways back to the subject at hand...........








After the latest debunking of an Obamacare horror story, the LA Times' Michael Hiltzik adds them up, and wonders why the Right insists on manufacturing these extreme stories.




Boonstra's case is just the latest of a very long line of deflatable horror stories. We've debunked a passel of them here, from Florida resident Diane Barrette, who didn't realize she'd been empowered by the ACA to move from a costly junk insurance plan to a cheaper real insurance plan; to Los Angeles real estate agent Deborah Cavallaro, whose "unaffordable" premiums turned out to be eminently affordable; to San Diego business owner Edie Sundby, whose cancer coverage was safeguarded by Obamacare after her insurer bailed out on her for financial reasons; to "Bette," the supposed victim trotted out by Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wash.) in her response to the State of the Union message last month, and who turned out to be an ACA "victim" because she couldn't be bothered actually to investigate her options for affordable care on the Washington state enrollment website.
 

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Scared of what?


Anyways back to the subject at hand...........








After the latest debunking of an Obamacare horror story, the LA Times' Michael Hiltzik adds them up, and wonders why the Right insists on manufacturing these extreme stories.




Boonstra's case is just the latest of a very long line of deflatable horror stories. We've debunked a passel of them here, from Florida resident Diane Barrette, who didn't realize she'd been empowered by the ACA to move from a costly junk insurance plan to a cheaper real insurance plan; to Los Angeles real estate agent Deborah Cavallaro, whose "unaffordable" premiums turned out to be eminently affordable; to San Diego business owner Edie Sundby, whose cancer coverage was safeguarded by Obamacare after her insurer bailed out on her for financial reasons; to "Bette," the supposed victim trotted out by Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wash.) in her response to the State of the Union message last month, and who turned out to be an ACA "victim" because she couldn't be bothered actually to investigate her options for affordable care on the Washington state enrollment website.
Well that settles it then. Obamacare is the best thing since sliced bread .
 

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After the latest debunking of an Obamacare horror story, the LA Times' Michael Hiltzik adds them up, and wonders why the Right insists on manufacturing these extreme stories.


Boonstra's case is just the latest of a very long line of deflatable horror stories. We've debunked a passel of them here, from Florida resident Diane Barrette, who didn't realize she'd been empowered by the ACA to move from a costly junk insurance plan to a cheaper real insurance plan; to Los Angeles real estate agent Deborah Cavallaro, whose "unaffordable" premiums turned out to be eminently affordable; to San Diego business owner Edie Sundby, whose cancer coverage was safeguarded by Obamacare after her insurer bailed out on her for financial reasons; to "Bette," the supposed victim trotted out by Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wash.) in her response to the State of the Union message last month, and who turned out to be an ACA "victim" because she couldn't be bothered actually to investigate her options for affordable care on the Washington state enrollment website.

Brought to you by the people who said...

"If you like your plan you can keep your plan... If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor."