Anyway, so we both agree that Sikhs won’t be permitted to catty a 3 ft kirpan into the Olympic stadium. That is a relief.
Sikhs Allowed To Carry Kirpan (knives) To Olympic Events
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Anyway, so we both agree that Sikhs won’t be permitted to catty a 3 ft kirpan into the Olympic stadium. That is a relief.
That is what I have said all along, TenPenny. Read from the beginning of the thread. And no freedom of religion does not trump safety considerations, even at the Olympics.
Why ask me? Ask the Sikhs. Evidently they feel strongly about attending the Olympics. They also feel strongly about carrying the kirpan all the time. They have worked out a reasonable compromise with the Olympics Committee. I don’t see why anybody should get their panties in the bunch about it.
Really? I am not aware that the Olympics Committee is fielding the candidates at next election, Goober.
The report says ‘very few’, Goober, you changed that to ‘a few’. There is big difference between the two. Very few means practically zero, while a few means just that, a few.
Anyway, there have been no documented incidences of kirpan violence in Canada. The Integrated Security Unit may be referring to incidences abroad, particularly in India.
That's funny. That's your standard response when you've run out of defenses for your opinions. You're cute.
Hey, you are asking me why the Sikhs want something, how can I answer that, how would I know? I don’t speak for the Sikhs. Ask a silly question, you are going to get a silly answer.
It's not that difficult of a question. I know the answer. I'm quite sure you do as well. You just don't like the answer.
How many people attending Olys have been attacked by someone with a kirpan?
How many people have died from something that was contained in something innocuous like a shampoo bottle?
I don't believe anyone on an airplane was ever killed due to something in a shampoo bottle.
No, I didn't miss it, I just noticed that you artfully left that detail out. Since that is what Cannuck mentioned several posts back, I thought it was important to keep it.
SJP
I missed one word while typing it was not deliberate and not intended to deceive - Yet your reply implies that I was deliberately trying to deceive you - I gave the quote for you to read - Now I see that violence using a Kirpan must have occurred in Canada - Why would that be a requirement -
The ISU states "very few" could you quantify that - I can’t -
Now we have a hack from the RCMP making this statement - Much like they made misleading statements about the Vancouver use of the Taser that resulted in a mans death - So you take this as they would say "Gospel".
Myself I would be interested in knowing what they found to arrive at the conclusion of " Very Few".
My quote and your reply
Quoting Goober
They are a sizable voting bloc -Really? I am not aware that the Olympics Committee is fielding the candidates at next election, Goober.
Is that your idea of humor - The Sikhs are the swing vote in a number of BC Ridings, same with the Chinese - Same with the Tamils in Toronto -
I didn’t say it was deliberate, Goober, it may well have been inadvertent. However, that changed the meaning of the statement substantially, there is a big difference between ‘very few’ and ‘a few’.
And I can easily figure out what ‘very few’ means. As far as the RCMP officer is aware, there has been no incidence of violence involving the kirpan. However, he probably didn’t want to be caught flat footed, so to cover himself, he used the phrase ‘very few’.
OK, but the fact still remains that Olympic Committee is not fielding any political candidates. So who are you accusing of playing politics? Is the Olympic Committee in the pockets of NDP or of Liberals? What you say doesn’t make sense.
SJPYou have a tendendcy to pick out the small while ignoring the intent - I do not deliberately try to mislead youI have emailed Vanoc as I did for the rules regarding the Kirpan to ascertain what : very Few" means - Were any in Canada etcOh shxt the Olympic is not fielding Candidates - I think that multi-culualism and a significant number of Sihks are present in BC - This along with the SCC ruling and that they did not want any controversy - The Sihks are well experienced at practing the photo op - referring to that Sikh that was to be deported to India - Many promised funds - when asked to cough up the money - Whoops they disappeared and then changed there tune - Lastly -Canada has had a number of moderate Sikhs threatened etc, last one was in Toronto a few days ago - Many still want a separate homeland - Lastly vilonce within the community against women has been thoroughly documented - So what the 5 symbols mean is in some cases nothing - They state that women are equal to men - Many would disagree - They also have a caste system of which you should be aware - Google Kirpans and Austri and see the attacks that took place.
Now you have gone off on a tangent, Goober, you are describing what a bad lot the Sikhs are. That is a separate subject, post a separate thread if you prefer. Let us stick to the Olympic Committee decision about the kirpan.
Anyway, I would be interested in what response you get regarding the ‘very few’ comment.
Anyway, I would be interested in what response you get regarding the ‘very few’ comment.
SJPNo I have not gone off on a tangent - ever thing regarding violence within the community is relevant - you are trying to restrict it - No where did I describe as all Sikhs - you interpreted it that way - Regardless - the pints that I brought forward are all relevant - Last point - many Sikhs still celebrate those that perpetrated Murder as role models - Martyrs for the cause -
Dammit, I wish Andem would make announcements when he appoints thread cops. It's so hard to keep track.
Well, Andem's usually pretty consistent with these sorts of announcements... but I think even he has trouble keeping up with those pesky 'self-appointed' thread cops.