How does NK prison standards measure up against Egypt, Israel and Saudi Arabia in your opinion?
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How does NK prison standards measure up against Egypt, Israel and Saudi Arabia in your opinion?
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I already posted one link. Want more? Fine:
Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery in North Korea
North Korean Refugees Frequent Victims of Human Trafficking
Impunity Watch: Asia: Human Trafficking Across North Korea-China Border
Bride Trafficking in North Korea: When Escape Becomes Bondage
Digital Chosunilbo (English Edition) : Daily News in English About Korea
Speech: North Korean Human Rights and Some Urgent Tasks for their Improvement
New documentary about Japanese girl kidnapped by North Korean spies at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture
Girls 'kidnapped by North Korea to teach Japanese' - Asia, World - The Independent
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There you go again, leaping to assumptions. Where does it say that these women were even in North Korea? You believe what NK claims?
- American Journalists Investigating Human Trafficking Sentenced to 12-Years in North Korean Gulag - Salem-News.Com
- I'd suggest before you start spewing your nonsense, that you get a grip and get your facts straight, idiot.
And don't start whining about name-calling. You make stupid comments without evidence or adding your personal spin on issues, you should bloody well expect people to call you stupid.
Just as I thought, all yap no substance. Go back to the bottle, captain morgan.
....... is probably where you keep your 1 poor, lonely, little brain cell. lmao
Sp where's your evidence that NK doesn't commit human rights violations, their prisons aren't like stalags, etc.? Put up or shut up.
And the defense of NK here at lil ol CC is being handled by an expert on NK? roflmao
As LG points out NK has a history of abducting people. As I pointed out, so does the US.
In this case, I see no evidence which convinces me NK abducted these women on Chinese soil. Its possible, but unproven. If true, the US is hardly in a position to complain about it. Now that these women are in NK custody, where they were arrested/abducted is beside the point as far as obtaining their release is concerned.
I'm not defending NK. Far from it. NK is a brutal regime and a prime example of where totalitarianism eventually leads. I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of people who claim they are shocked by NK's brutal penal system, yet have nothing to say about other countries with far worse records of abuse than NK. You either support unfair barbaric penal systems and punishments or you don't.
I've heard people on this forum express what they'd like to do to people guilty of heinous crimes like Bernardo. It sure sounded to me like support for a barbaric and cruel penal system far worse than NK's.
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I'd also bet on their release before the end of the year...
In this case, I see no evidence which convinces me NK abducted these women on Chinese soil. Its possible, but unproven. If true, the US is hardly in a position to complain about it. Now that these women are in NK custody, where they were arrested/abducted is beside the point as far as obtaining their release is concerned.
I'm not defending NK. Far from it. NK is a brutal regime and a prime example of where totalitarianism eventually leads. I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of people who claim they are shocked by NK's brutal penal system, yet have nothing to say about other countries with far worse records of abuse than NK. You either support unfair barbaric penal systems and punishments or you don't.
I've heard people on this forum express what they'd like to do to people guilty of heinous crimes like Bernardo. It sure sounded to me like support for a barbaric and cruel penal system far worse than NK's.
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I'd also bet on their release before the end of the year...
@Gilbert:
I just love it when a myopic, mental-midget takes the high road and provides info that they clearly don't understand as proof-positive for their position.
There is the potential that you actually read these articles, but there is no way that you understand them. You want to believe so badly that these 2 poor women were randomly abducted in China you can't see reality... To get the ole-conspiracy theory pot boiling more, it just so happens that they are US journalists doing a piece on abductions.
... What are the odds of that happening...
For you, that must not appear to be any coincidence at all - but then again, I'll wager that you are a big target for all the bridge-salesmen in the community.
For the rest of the world, no one believes that they were abducted outside NK... The US State Department isn't rattling their sabres and neither is any other western nation... Yeah, I'll bet that you are completely dumbfounded by this lack of action, but here's a hint for ya: These women entered NK voluntarily - and everyone knows it except you.
I told you in no uncertain terms that I don't suffer fools very well and without question, you are the biggest fool that I have ever encountered.
I just love it when a myopic, mental-midget takes the high road and provides info that they clearly don't understand as proof-positive for their position.
There is the potential that you actually read these articles, but there is no way that you understand them. You want to believe so badly that these 2 poor women were randomly abducted in China you can't see reality... To get the ole-conspiracy theory pot boiling more, it just so happens that they are US journalists doing a piece on abductions.
... What are the odds of that happening...
For you, that must not appear to be any coincidence at all - but then again, I'll wager that you are a big target for all the bridge-salesmen in the community.
For the rest of the world, no one believes that they were abducted outside NK... The US State Department isn't rattling their sabres and neither is any other western nation... Yeah, I'll bet that you are completely dumbfounded by this lack of action, but here's a hint for ya: These women entered NK voluntarily - and everyone knows it except you.
I told you in no uncertain terms that I don't suffer fools very well and without question, you are the biggest fool that I have ever encountered.
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The reporters were doing a story on the trafficking of North Korean women, so that somehow explains why they would willingly enter North Korean territory?
You cannot speak for the rest of the world, a simple query of google news shows that there is quite a bit of speculation as to where they were apprehended. Sorry pal, but North Korea's word that they trespassed on their territory doesn't cut mustard. The fact that you believe what comes out of North Korea aligns you nicely with the tin foilers.
Have you thought for a second that the reason the State Department has been subdued in criticisms of the case might have something to do with them working for their release and trying not to antagonize NK?
Do you happen to believe that Kim Jung Il controls the weather by chance? :smile:
Great insight... So what you're really saying is that the western media that is covering this is always accurate and mean-ole North Korea is snatching unwary American tourists (that just happen to be journalists doing a piece on the horrors of NK)...
Yep, that sounds about right in terms of what must have happened to these two poor American women.Surely, the cohorts of these women would never lie to help their friends... Never - not in a million years.I'll bet that they were sitting at one of the trendy cafe/bars that are built notoriously within inches of the China/NK border, enjoying a coffee and breakfast when they were forcibly snatched right in front of the armed Chinese border guards ("Hey, is that Chairman Mao's younger brother - Chinese border guards stare-off into horizon and eevviill NK thugs grab tourists) - Yeah... makes ever so much sense.
Here's a link for ya that provides a wee bit of an explanation that makes swallowing the 'poor-innocent-journalists-snatched-against-will' theory a little more unbelievable: The Chinese, back in 2006 have built a 8'-15' fence, complete with razor-wire along much of their 880 mile border with NK.
China erects fence along N. Korea border - USATODAY.com
You'll notice that it is from a western-based media outlet, therefore it must be true.
.. You were mentioning something about tin-foil hats, were you?...
lol You wouldn't know a fool unless you looked in a mirror.
Have ANYthing that backs up your hypothesis that they were in NK? Have anything that refutes that NK kidnaps people or traffics in humans? No. I didn't think so. As I said, put up or shut up.
BTW, just because YOU say the rest of the world thinks something doesn't make it true. People used to think the world was flat.
Also, why would NK kidnap the average American tourist? Not much reason. There would be a reason if they found out there were a couple of people wandering around bent on exposing NK, though. I know it's hard, but try using your little cell to think with instead of using up its energy by spewing nonsense.
Yes, I did read a couple of the links I posted. The rest I just added from the list I googled. That was page 1. I couldn't find one that refutes the rest.
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What is it? LSD? Shrooms? You must be on something hallucinogenic.
Still no info from ANY source that refutes the trafficking, huh? Does NK even refute it?
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Forced labor is slavery. They are barely fed, and what they do eat has little nutrional value. Many of them die from malnutrition and starvation while forcibly worked. Many are beaten for lacking the energy to work harder during their 16 or 17 hour shifts.
Are there still people in here who don't get it?
Are there still people in here who don't get it?
No problems here.
If NK would go this far to stifle a story about its trafficking, there must be something to the story. What else is it hiding?
If NK would go this far to stifle a story about its trafficking, there must be something to the story. What else is it hiding?
The fact that you exist proves the above wrong.
Typical response from one that has no footing in logic... Demand that others prove a negative. As far as the demand for evidence that refutes any notion that people aren't kidnapped or trafficked in North Korea - get off your high horse. There is not one single nation on the planet where this does not occur... You seem to think that it only happens in North Korea and what's more, that the gvt is behind it.
Wrong again... I have a proxy statement that says otherwise.... (It's true!)
... So.. Let's see... Every journalist that ever printed a critical word of NK, every political leader that ever was critical (which is damn near all of 'em) and especially every narrow-minded yokel like yourself is a potential target.
Hmmmm, in all the years that people have spoken out against the NK gvt, in the global media no less, have been kidnapped?
How come I never got the memo?!
You can read?
Next time, try reading the articles before you forward them as proof-positive to support your argument....
I noticed that you've shied away from answering earth_as_one's suggestion that you take a look at the penal systems all throughout the world.
There is a reason why you won't and we all know why.
Using your logic: Why isn't the US State Department threatening to blast NK back into the stone-age?
What are they hiding?!
Obviously not.
Again, you wouldn't know logic if it sat on your face and shat. It was a rhetorical question. It seems that there are entire countries that think the gov't is behind the trafficking. So jam my high horse alongside your wee, little brain cell.
Now you've made a claim that all countries traffic in humans. Prove it, big mouth.
BS
They are if they're near the border. Why is that so tough to comprehend for you. Oh, that's right, I forgot. You are mentally challenged, to put it in the PC terms.
Speakee English?
You don't get much of anything.
Only English.
Why? Proof positive would be lost on you anyway.