Seniors don't want to give up money for younger gen: poll
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Ya know Ron.... you are a real asshole sometimes.... and I doubt I need to explain that comment.
I am a low income senior,living on OAS/GIS
84% on seniors on GIS are women. We were out of the workforce for many years raising children and when we tried to get back in to our fields, it was difficult so we took what was available,usually,public hygiene jobs/homecare,daycare,etc
I resent many seniors and their lavish lifestyles:trips everywhere,hotels,restaurants,new cars,and their expectation of respect for all their hard work.
They bought their houses when housing prices were relatively low,then sold them at current market prices for condos or other retirement housing.
They lived off the fat of the land, did nothing to raise the minimum wage, nor did they chirp up about other social ills,and still don't.
Yes, there are exceptions,but I see how most of them live, and it is quite lavish.
I think it is unfair for them to receive OAS when they don't need it. OAS gets scaled down around the $70,000 income bracket.
That money is kust paying for their airfares or remodelling.,whatever..
Better to scale back starting at say,$25,000
Seniors get so many perks.
eg, in BC they get to ride free on ferries,Mon to Thursday
often there are special rates for seniors for many venues too
and services like hairdressers,pharmacies have senior days.
Out here on the Westcoast, I encounter daily too many selfish well to do seniors.
84% on seniors on GIS are women. We were out of the workforce for many years raising children and when we tried to get back in to our fields, it was difficult so we took what was available,usually,public hygiene jobs/homecare,daycare,etc
I resent many seniors and their lavish lifestyles:trips everywhere,hotels,restaurants,new cars,and their expectation of respect for all their hard work.
They bought their houses when housing prices were relatively low,then sold them at current market prices for condos or other retirement housing.
They lived off the fat of the land, did nothing to raise the minimum wage, nor did they chirp up about other social ills,and still don't.
Yes, there are exceptions,but I see how most of them live, and it is quite lavish.
I think it is unfair for them to receive OAS when they don't need it. OAS gets scaled down around the $70,000 income bracket.
That money is kust paying for their airfares or remodelling.,whatever..
Better to scale back starting at say,$25,000
Seniors get so many perks.
eg, in BC they get to ride free on ferries,Mon to Thursday
often there are special rates for seniors for many venues too
and services like hairdressers,pharmacies have senior days.
Out here on the Westcoast, I encounter daily too many selfish well to do seniors.
While the anecdotal stuff is unfortunate, it's still beyond the pertinent fact that the cost of living for the average parent is much higher than that for the average senior.
If we're to be "ethical" about this, then we need to give to the people who need it most. I'm sure that for any outliers, you can make a claim for some kind of reimbursement as well even if you are not in the favoured group.
If we're to be "ethical" about this, then we need to give to the people who need it most. I'm sure that for any outliers, you can make a claim for some kind of reimbursement as well even if you are not in the favoured group.
I think one of the biggest problems is the people who are doing the complaining have missed out on many of the experiences that people 30 years their senior struggled through and they missed out on having to "wear the same shoes". Looking backward at it from the tail end of my working days, many of these complainers lacked the work ethic that many of the older generation had. :lol:
I think one of the biggest problems is the people who are doing the complaining have missed out on many of the experiences that people 30 years their junior struggle through and they missed out on having to "wear the same shoes". Looking forward at it from the front end of my working days, many of these complainers lacked the work ethic that many of the younger generation have.
Great contribution Ron.... It sure does drive straight to the heart of the matter.
Work ethic is a subjective matter that is difficult to qualify, but it is also besides the point.
Regardless of what your work ethic is, it won't matter if the cost of living is higher. And the evidence is pretty convincing that the cost of living is much higher for this generation than last.
You just ain't whistling Dixie. Keep on raising the minimum wage and you'll see a lot more! :lol:
Did usually refers to past tense. As in 'when your parents or grandparents were 20somethings did they have smartphones?'.
They didn't have smart phones per se, but they did have tin cans and string, which, at the time was the height of technology.
You assume politics was any different from today and there was a real choice of someone who would do things differently across the parlamentary floor?
The ones doing all the complaining are you and the 40+ year olds. Bunch of whiny, sniveling little "poor me" brats.
The only reason the cost of living is so high is because people today don't know the difference between need and want. We didn't have 5% of the electronic crap people have today, we didn't have designer clothes or live in big houses. Our parents didn't drive us to sporting events, dancing or music lessons. We didn't have a TV in every freakin' room. We didn't eat out at restaurants more than once or twice a year. We didn't have more than one car or a house in the country. We wore hand me down clothes. You guys were spoiled and then you spoiled your own kids even worse and now you are whining about it? Grow a pair!
You are not wrong there Cliffy, however, the social safety system also reflects this as well... Chances are, that when you were a kid and had a fever or cold, your folks didn't rush you off to emergency for safety's sake.
My father (and his generation) worked his 40 hour week and spent his free time relaxing as the government took care of most of his peripherals. On a slow week, I work 48 hours. In my free time, I volunteer for the local Agricultural Society that owns and operates the hockey rink (since the town couldn't afford to run it any longer). I volunteer for the BoD of the golf course (since the town couldn't afford to run it any longer). I spend countless hours fundraising for the fire department and am the Casino Chairperson. We have raised money to purchase bunker gear, breathing apparatus, and upgrades to trucks (since the town couldn't afford to do it any longer). I volunteer at the school to fund raise for items the school needs (since the school board couldn't afford to do it any longer). I volunteer for the Lions Club doing projects or raising funds for projects such as playgrounds (since the town couldn't afford to do it any longer)
All these things I do in my spare time that my father never did because his generation just borrowed the money to run or build schools, rinks, golf courses, playgrounds and fire departments. Not only did he (and those of his generation) stick their kids and grand kids with the bill but they are the first ones to complain if the school, fire hall, playground or arena isn't up to standard and blame it on the younger generation. And, of course, they expect a discount on their golf membership.
They are THE most selfish generation by a country mile.
How could they have smart phones when smart phones didn't exist? Would they have had them if they existed? Probably. The only people I can see that wouldn't have one are those that are afraid of technology.
I see a lot of whining here from young brats about the older generation and the wealth they've managed to accumulate while running up debt for the brats to be burdened with later. Well when the older generation leaves the planet, many of them will leave behind material assets in the order of $1/2 million to $million of more, which the whining brats will likely inherit and if they are still concerned about debt they can sell the assets off to pay down the debt. :lol:
Politics was no different than today. Politicians are followers not leaders. There was no appetite for balanced budgets years ago so there was no incentive for politicians to balance budget. Perhaps if your generation just said no to your perks...
So your dad was a lazy, selfish prick. Not everybody's was. I have done a lot of volunteering to and on average less than 10% of the people in any give area do. At one time I was on half a dozen committees and it was always the same people who showed up. And I am a Mac techy and I will not have a cell phone, iPhone, an iPod or iPad. I have a land line because I hate phones and I use my answering machine to screen my calls.
Good one, Cliff, you've told the whining, snivelling brat better than I ever could. :lol::lol::lol: