Scout leaders topple ancient rock

[petros]

18 USC § 1361 - Government property or contracts

Whoever willfully injures or commits any depredation against any property of the United States, or of any department or agency thereof, or any property which has been or is being manufactured or constructed for the United States, or any department or agency thereof, or attempts to commit any of the foregoing offenses, shall be punished as follows:

If the damage or attempted damage to such property exceeds the sum of $1,000, by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than ten years, or both; if the damage or attempted damage to such property does not exceed the sum of $1,000, by a fine under this title or by imprisonment for not more than one year, or both.

harsh

 

[CDNBear]

Ya, I was just reading a story about a woman who simply poured paint on a national monument being held without bond.

Seems they take it pretty serious.

 

[Liberalman]

That boy scout leader was a fat one

 

[petros]

Ya, I was just reading a story about a woman who simply poured paint on a national monument being held without bond.

Seems they take it pretty serious.

As they should.

 

[SLM]

18 USC § 1361 - Government property or contracts

Whoever willfully injures or commits any depredation against any property of the United States, or of any department or agency thereof, or any property which has been or is being manufactured or constructed for the United States, or any department or agency thereof, or attempts to commit any of the foregoing offenses, shall be punished as follows:

If the damage or attempted damage to such property exceeds the sum of $1,000, by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than ten years, or both; if the damage or attempted damage to such property does not exceed the sum of $1,000, by a fine under this title or by imprisonment for not more than one year, or both.

harsh

I doubt they'll see ten years, but I'd imagine a hefty fine will be happening. That's my guess anyway.

Anyway, the way they were hooting and hollering, that was not about 'safety', that was just overgrown frat boy behaviour.

 

[CDNBear]

That boy scout leader was a fat one

Your grasp of the obvious, is nothing less than breathtaking.

 

[PoliticalNick]

The vet bill for broken ribs on cattle is higher than the value of the livestock. F*cking with livestock is an indictable offense.


Destroying Federal property is more than likely a felony.

It's a rock! Rocks are moved all the time for various reasons. I don't care about a rock, especially one that large that can be pushed over by one man with ease. He may very well have saved a life down the road. This is far too much bullsh*t and another fine example of the police state mentality where a balancing rock takes precedent over a human being.

On a different note...Why would you bother to call in a vet for broken ribs on a cow? Wouldn't you just slaughter it right then? They can't put a cast on human ribs and I don't see how they could do it on a cow. Not that I condone screwing with someones property but it seems to me it is more a civil action for lost income than an actual crime.

 

[CDNBear]

As they should.

Especially with unrepairable natural formations.

Anyway, the way they were hooting and hollering, that was not about 'safety', that was just overgrown frat boy behaviour.

Ya, their claims of public safety at the center of their actions seems quite hollow.

 

[petros]

It's a rock! Rocks are moved all the time for various reasons. I don't care about a rock, especially one that large that can be pushed over by one man with ease. He may very well have saved a life down the road. This is far too much bullsh*t and another fine example of the police state mentality where a balancing rock takes precedent over a human being.

On a different note...Why would you bother to call in a vet for broken ribs on a cow? Wouldn't you just slaughter it right then? They can't put a cast on human ribs and I don't see how they could do it on a cow. Not that I condone screwing with someones property but it seems to me it is more a civil action for lost income than an actual crime.

Those rocks attract 10's of thousands of vistors every year.

 

[CDNBear]

This is far too much bullsh*t and another fine example of the police state mentality where a balancing rock takes precedent over a human being.

You keep babbling that nonsense without any context.

Maybe you could clarify it. Not that it rings true with your belief in shooting unarmed people for amusement or for lawfully doing their duty.

 

[PoliticalNick]

18 USC § 1361 - Government property or contracts

Whoever willfully injures or commits any depredation against any property of the United States, or of any department or agency thereof, or any property which has been or is being manufactured or constructed for the United States, or any department or agency thereof, or attempts to commit any of the foregoing offenses, shall be punished as follows:

If the damage or attempted damage to such property exceeds the sum of $1,000, by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than ten years, or both; if the damage or attempted damage to such property does not exceed the sum of $1,000, by a fine under this title or by imprisonment for not more than one year, or both.

harsh

I fail to see where this was manufactured or constructed by or for the US govt. It predates the US by a few thousand years.

 

[petros]

nature built it. It's a Gov asset that attracts 10s of thousands of victors to see the hoodoos.

 

[hunboldt]

It's a rock! Rocks are moved all the time for various reasons. I don't care about a rock, especially one that large that can be pushed over by one man with ease. He may very well have saved a life down the road. This is far too much bullsh*t and another fine example of the police state mentality where a balancing rock takes precedent over a human being.

On a different note...Why would you bother to call in a vet for broken ribs on a cow? Wouldn't you just slaughter it right then? They can't put a cast on human ribs and I don't see how they could do it on a cow. Not that I condone screwing with someones property but it seems to me it is more a civil action for lost income than an actual crime.

From the looks of piggy boy scout leader he may have saved many young lives by encouraging his wards to find another troop

 

[SLM]

Maybe they should take it upon themselves to fill in the Grand Canyon too. After all, someone could fall in.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Those rocks attract 10's of thousands of vistors every year.

Yep, and apparently there are thousands more of them still to see.

This isn't a case of murder or rape or robbery. A rock got moved 15 feet. Somehow this event is a major crime. So the rock is far more important than the life of the man who could wind up with severe restrictions and negative impact for the rest of his life. It is a joke! The worst that should happen to him is a "please don't do that again", not being made a felon.

 

[hunboldt]

Yep, and apparently there are thousands more of them still to see.

This isn't a case of murder or rape or robbery. A rock got moved 15 feet. Somehow this event is a major crime. So the rock is far more important than the life of the man who could wind up with severe restrictions and negative impact for the rest of his life. It is a joke! The worst that should happen to him is a "please don't do that again", not being made a felon.

I want to see the video of those three grunters levering it back into place..

 

[CDNBear]

A rock got moved 15 feet. Somehow this event is a major crime.

It is?

If you didn't make up so much stuff, your posts wouldn't look so stupid.

So the rock is far more important than the life of the man who could wind up with severe restrictions and negative impact for the rest of his life.

Can you back that up with some intel...

Ever read the story behind the movie 127 Hours?

To my knowledge people still visit the cavern he was trapped it in. Nobody filled it in and no one likely will.

The idea is idiotic, I can see why you would flirt with it.

It is a joke!

Oh, now I get it, you're posts are a joke.

Gotchya.

 

[SLM]

I want to see the video of those three grunters levering it back into place..

That should be their punishment. Lol.

 

[petros]

Yep, and apparently there are thousands more of them still to see.

This isn't a case of murder or rape or robbery. A rock got moved 15 feet. Somehow this event is a major crime. So the rock is far more important than the life of the man who could wind up with severe restrictions and negative impact for the rest of his life. It is a joke! The worst that should happen to him is a "please don't do that again", not being made a felon.

If you don't want to be charged with destroying Federal property, don't destroy Federal property. Now that the boulder is in a drainage cut, there will be even more damage and risk of injury increases.

 

[karrie]

I disagree.

"Prosecutors in Emery County will determine if charges would be filed, he said. "

Vandalism leaps to mind. It's a common charge when a national monument is vandalized.

Disagree all you want, it's not an apt comparison.

A rock fell. It's not comparable to smashing a car up. I'm not saying they shouldn't be held accountable, but, 'I have to admit, if they could do it that easily, it would have happened anyway.'