School shooting in Montreal not terror.

United_Nations

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Now you say it can't be a terror attack if the guy has a mohawk. So I guess if he is not darked skin its not a terrorists attack. However, on the flip side, in Belgium they have destroyed a NEO-NAZI Terrorist cell, who couldn't say these are just NEO-NAZI terrorists.

However, they were most likely students or former students.
 

Curiosity

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Even a Canadian shooting has to be tied in with an American event?

Talk about one-track minds.

Montreal had an incident in 1989 - Ecole Polytechique with shooting of students before Columbine occurred when Harris and Klebold were probably toddlers.
 

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United_Nations said:
Now you say it can't be a terror attack if the guy has a mohawk. So I guess if he is not darked skin its not a terrorists attack. However, on the flip side, in Belgium they have destroyed a NEO-NAZI Terrorist cell, who couldn't say these are just NEO-NAZI terrorists.

However, they were most likely students or former students.

Oh, SPARE me!

This was definitely a "terror attack", no matter who perpetrated it, it certainly inspired trror.

The question is whether it is political, or apolitical?

Mohawk, piercings and the like indicate brain-dead anarchists without any sense of politics...........

We'll see.
 

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United_Nations said:
Now you say it can't be a terror attack if the guy has a mohawk. So I guess if he is not darked skin its not a terrorists attack. However, on the flip side, in Belgium they have destroyed a NEO-NAZI Terrorist cell, who couldn't say these are just NEO-NAZI terrorists.

However, they were most likely students or former students.

Interesting point. If they were dark skined and middle eastern people would be thinking terrorist attack. I did not think about it from that angle but good point.

People have been speaking about the Montreal massacure, do you think they were french students upset with the college? It's apparently one of the only English speaking colleges.
 

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United_Nations said:
Now you say it can't be a terror attack if the guy has a mohawk. So I guess if he is not darked skin its not a terrorists attack. However, on the flip side, in Belgium they have destroyed a NEO-NAZI Terrorist cell, who couldn't say these are just NEO-NAZI terrorists.

However, they were most likely students or former students.
Thing is though so far all the students they have interviewed never once saw any of the gunman before! so that rasies an eyebrow. Possibly a radnom act of Violince with gunmen with a death wish, who couldnt care ethier way what happed? That would be a scary fact if that were true.
 

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Wednesday's Child said:
Even a Canadian shooting has to be tied in with an American event?

Talk about one-track minds.

Montreal had an incident in 1989 - Ecole Polytechique with shooting of students before Columbine occurred when Harris and Klebold were probably toddlers.

And TWO school shootings in 1976, and the one in Taber just after Columbine...........

But I understand the parallels with Columbine......more than a single shooter being the most obvious........
 

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Wednesday's Child said:
Even a Canadian shooting has to be tied in with an American event?

Talk about one-track minds.

Montreal had an incident in 1989 - Ecole Polytechique with shooting of students before Columbine occurred when Harris and Klebold were probably toddlers.
I think its more of a Students Killing Students deal, but thats still not been verified
 

Curiosity

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OKOK knee jerk reaction on my part - but I'm still waiting for the usual.... BUSH DID IT.

The newsreaders here are saying the campus police (or the first law responders) were not armed with weapons....????

They had to wait for the SWAT group ???

I suppose we'll have tons of rumors before the truth comes out.

Sympathy for the kids - there are always innocents who are the victims
of nutcases with guns.
 

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Colpy said:
United_Nations said:
Now you say it can't be a terror attack if the guy has a mohawk. So I guess if he is not darked skin its not a terrorists attack. However, on the flip side, in Belgium they have destroyed a NEO-NAZI Terrorist cell, who couldn't say these are just NEO-NAZI terrorists.

However, they were most likely students or former students.

Oh, SPARE me!

This was definitely a "terror attack", no matter who perpetrated it, it certainly inspired trror.

The question is whether it is political, or apolitical?

Mohawk, piercings and the like indicate brain-dead anarchists without any sense of politics...........

We'll see.

People love saying terrorist attack when it isn't a terrorist attack. Oh you added anarchist to the list now.

Nah, probably two or three messed up people who just decided to one day grab guns and shoot fellow or former students.
 

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EastSideScotian said:
United_Nations said:
Now you say it can't be a terror attack if the guy has a mohawk. So I guess if he is not darked skin its not a terrorists attack. However, on the flip side, in Belgium they have destroyed a NEO-NAZI Terrorist cell, who couldn't say these are just NEO-NAZI terrorists.

However, they were most likely students or former students.
Thing is though so far all the students they have interviewed never once saw any of the gunman before! so that rasies an eyebrow. Possibly a radnom act of Violince with gunmen with a death wish, who couldnt care ethier way what happed? That would be a scary fact if that were true.

Nothing is ever random.
 

Curiosity

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Do people actually still wear mohawks or was it a joke done when he was passed out on a floor somewhere???

No wonder the shooter was so violent. :roll:
 

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United_Nations said:
EastSideScotian said:
United_Nations said:
Now you say it can't be a terror attack if the guy has a mohawk. So I guess if he is not darked skin its not a terrorists attack. However, on the flip side, in Belgium they have destroyed a NEO-NAZI Terrorist cell, who couldn't say these are just NEO-NAZI terrorists.

However, they were most likely students or former students.
Thing is though so far all the students they have interviewed never once saw any of the gunman before! so that rasies an eyebrow. Possibly a radnom act of Violince with gunmen with a death wish, who couldnt care ethier way what happed? That would be a scary fact if that were true.

Nothing is ever random.
By random I mean they just decided they wanted to kill some people and decided to do it there but for no real reason. which at the moment seems posible
 

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United_Nations said:
Nah, probably two or three messed up people who just decided to one day grab guns and shoot fellow or former students.

United_Natoins said:
Nothing is ever random.

Explain to me how this is not a contradiction. Was it a random act of violence (and by random I mean people just deciding to shoot people for no reason) or did it have a purpose (ie terrorism)?
 

EastSideScotian

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gc said:
United_Nations said:
Nah, probably two or three messed up people who just decided to one day grab guns and shoot fellow or former students.

United_Natoins said:
Nothing is ever random.

Explain to me how this is not a contradiction. Was it a random act of violence (and by random I mean people just deciding to shoot people for no reason) or did it have a purpose (ie terrorism)?
Hes just being argumentitive, relax its cute. :lol:
 

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Latest:

2 dead and 12 injured 6 critical 2 serious, 4 moderate looking for third gunman


Government sources are saying two of the gunmen are dead," said CTV's Jed Kahane, reporting from Montreal. "One may have taken his own life, the other was shot by police."

Twelve victims of the shooting have been taken to hospital for treatment, including six in critical condition, two considered serious, and four listed in stable condition.

Kahane said police received a call about the shooting at just before 1 p.m. ET. There were questions about whether a third gunman was also involved.

Dawson College is located at the corner of Atwater and Sherbrooke in the heart of downtown Montreal.

Students told Kahane they saw someone roaming the halls with a gun, and heard at least 20 shots fired.

One student told Montreal radio station 940 News she was on the phone at the college's front entrance when she heard five gunshots and a window break. She walked into the hallway and was inches from the gunman.

"All of a sudden I turned around and saw a man dressed in black with a huge assault rifle," she said.

"People didn't know what was going on ... they thought it was a joke."

The man ran into the corner of the cafeteria to hide from police, she said.

A number of officers surrounded the school with guns drawn, while others helped to evacuate students from inside the English-language CEGEP school which houses about 10,000 students.

Some students and teachers have barricaded themselves in classrooms, and are waiting for police to rescue them from the school.

One woman called 940 News from a lab on the seventh floor, where she is holed up with as many as 40 students and one teacher.

"We're in the lab, which is on the seventh floor, and we're waiting for police to come and get us," she said.

"We've locked the doors and we've sealed it with the tables. We're still scared. Everyone's been evacuated, except us."

One student told 940 News she saw two people who had been shot, including one who had been hit in the neck.

Send your images, with descriptive captions, to newsonline@ctv.ca Please include your name and phone number.

The student said a friend told her four people had been shot.

Michel Boyer, a student at the college, told CTV Newsnet he saw the gunman in a hallway leading to the cafeteria.

"I saw the gunman who was dressed in black and at that time he was shooting at people. It was probably one of the most frightening moments of my life," Boyer said.

Images captured from a helicopter hovering over the scene showed hordes of students running frantically from the building.

"Many people are crying as they are coming out, worried about who might still be inside the building and shocked by what happened," said CTV's Genevieve Beauchemin, reporting from the scene.

A number of police vehicles surrounded what appeared to be a bloodsoaked sidewalk outside the school, and several yellow ambulance vehicles were seen speeding from the scene after victims were carried from the building on stretchers and loaded in the vehicles.

All classes at Dawson College have been cancelled.

Today's incident is horrifyingly reminiscent of another school shooting in Montreal. On Dec. 6, 1989, Marc Lepine shot 27 female engineering students at the Ecole Polytechnique, killing 14, before fatally shooting himself.

The mass murder prompted tighter gun laws, which included the creation of the controversial national firearms registry. It also prompted Parliament to create the National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence against Women in 1991, to coincide with the anniversary of the tragedy.

Family members of Dawson College students seeking more information can call (514) 280-2880 or (514) 280-2806.

Meanwhile, medical staff at the Montreal General Hospital Emergency Service are asking the public to avoid the hospital's emergency rooms, so doctors can treat the 12 victims.

Concerned family members can call a special hotline at the hospital: 514-843-2839.
http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/To...13&feedname=CTV-TOPSTORIES_V2&showbyline=True

And to answer your question. There is always an action. To some it might appear random, like he chose a random house or in this case, they chose a random school, but after search it will be found out why it occured.
 

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CTV is still indicating 1 suicide, and one shot by police. But at this stage it's still too early to tell.

But that would be two dead gunmen.
 

EastSideScotian

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Yea I dont think I am going to really take any of this Info for exzact face Value, It would be safe to wait untill tommorow to really get the proper facts, More needs to be figured out about the gunmen
 

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gangstalking said:
Interesting point. If they were dark skined and middle eastern people would be thinking terrorist attack. I did not think about it from that angle but good point.

People have been speaking about the Montreal massacure, do you think they were french students upset with the college? It's apparently one of the only English speaking colleges.

I live in Montreal and I'd be VERY, VERY surprised if this was an incident related to language... If it was, it shouldn't be considered as a symptom of a social problem related to language... This would be an isolated act and not something to be "worried" about in terms of political and linguistic tensions in Montreal. Montreal is doing pretty good on that issue trust me...